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Posted 1/2/2015 12:24 PM (GMT 0)
Hey guys. I want to share my store and ask for advice.

Before 3 years i drink Coca Cola and in one moment , out of the blue, saliva rushed out from my mouth. Next 3 years, to the present day i have same problem . - white, thick, foamy saliva. All the time.

My blood and urine was okey, ENT doctor said everything is okey and he sent me to gastro doctor. He made endoscopy and he found helico bacter , hiatal hernia and very severe inflamation of stomach. I was taking therapy for 3 months and went on a second endoscopy. Results were okey. But i still have this sticky saliva which makes my life miserable.

Only thing i found on net and what am i using is indian plant called "aschwanganda". My symptoms reduced.

I simpy want to know why is my saliva so sticky and foamy ? Some said that is because of pepsin , and that should i use alcalic water to kill pepsin. Some said maybe i have too low acid levels and should try HCL suplements.

Is it possible that i have non acidic reflux ? Is it LPR ?

I dont have any other sympthom that that. Only what i felt when all this started is that I couldn t breed.

I hope somebody understands me because this condiition literally destroyed my life. I feel depresed, anxious and simply don t know where to find help.

Thank you

Domagoj
Posted 1/3/2015 3:13 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Domagoj,

Welcome to Healing Well! So sorry you're struggling with LPR symptoms. While I did have atypical GERD and had the Nissen fundoplication anti-reflux surgery with good success, my worst symptoms involved lung problems.

Still, if your esophagus is irritated, it can create mucous to protect itself. The upper GI tract is one long tube, from the mouth through the stomach, and what affects one part, affects it all.

Here's a link to a Mayo Clinic page with some information about possible causes of increased saliva production:
www.mayoclinic.org/symptoms/excessive-saliva/basics/causes/sym-20050680

I don't have any answers for you, but we have some great members, and hopefully somebody will be by who has had similar symptoms that have resolved.

Best wishes,
Denise
Posted 1/16/2015 8:03 AM (GMT 0)
I know at least 10 people who have same symptoms as I . Even worse. Can you give me link again because i cant opet this page ?

Can you tell me which symptoms did you have ?

How do you feel now ?
Posted 2/9/2015 2:09 AM (GMT 0)
Do you k ow if the excessive salivating finally ceases. I've been on max dose of ppi for 4 months with improving symptoms but have the saliva problem now. Need to spit it out. Very bothersome. Also experiencing shortness of breath sometime and heaviness in chest area. On a very strict diet. Follow Koufman diet. Please let me know how long it takes for resolution
Posted 3/12/2015 1:33 PM (GMT 0)
I used aschwangandha. indian plant . and it helped me.

but problem is , in my personal opinion, it s not problem if you have more or less acid . I think LPR is happening no regardlles of acid level.

your saliva problem can be because you have low acid level. the catch is that both low and high acid level have almost same symptoms.
Posted 3/21/2015 3:47 AM (GMT 0)
I have very few throat symptoms of lpr anymore but continue to have this horrible sour mucous taste that is so irritating. I am so fearful that it is acidic and doing severe damage to my teeth. I simply can not get it to stop. Was on max ppi for 4 months and have cut to just 40mg ppi for the past 2 months. On a low acid diet. Any suggestions. Anyone else have this problem?
Posted 3/21/2015 9:50 PM (GMT 0)
I have the exact same problem but with halitosis. My reflux is bad and I am scheduled to see a surgeon after 12 years of misery. Strangely, it feels like the mucus is only on the left side. Reflux meds make it worse by drying the mucus out. I currently take nexium every 3rd day and eat very small portions of food. Saline nasal rinses seem to help when PND is contibuting but for me this isn't always the case. Sorry I'm not much help but at this point I believe that sugery is the only hope as this is a mechanical problem for most people.
Posted 3/22/2015 1:12 AM (GMT 0)
I am hopeful that this will get under control. I have only had the lpr symptoms for 7 months but seems like 7 years. It has consumed me. Today is actually the best day in all these months. Very minimum acid taste in back of throat and diminished mucous. I am 70 years old but in very good physical shape.. I think I could go through the surgery ok but could not afford to lose the weight most lose as I am already underweight. I have lost weight I couldn't really afford to lose in these past months just dealing with this and changing my diet. Hopefully things will continue to improve and I can start weaning off the ppi also. I can't imagine living with this for 20 or so years. I wish you the best if you go for the surgery. Keep me posted.
Posted 10/1/2015 12:50 PM (GMT 0)
My symptoms last 4 years.

When I used this indian plant, at some point my saliva become CLOSE to normal, no so much foam more. But in same time i felt burning of my throat, burning of my stomach and then I realized that that mucus is protecting me.

My personal opion after 4 years of this madnness is that you can have reflux regardlles of acid level. I think that is wrong conclusion that you have reflux because of extra acid.

How do you feel Kar ?
Posted 10/2/2015 9:26 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, people can have GERD symptoms with low acid levels, normal acid levels, and high acid levels because they are many different things that can cause GERD. I can get really bad GERD if I eat certain foods. Especially if it's foods with certain additives.

I cannot eat foods with MSG or certain amounts of sulfites. And dairy is out of the question for me, at least for now. I don't drink cow's milk anyway because it's not good for you, but cheese is a big weakness for me and it kills me that I can't eat it.

I tried eating some organic greek yogurt recently and at first it went down okay, but then I started getting these horrible pains in my stomach. I'm still not sure if the pain is coming from protein casein or the dairy causing extra acid production or the good bacteria killing off the bad bacteria (when bacteria die then can release toxins) or a combination of these three.

So I'm with you, people with low acid production can also have reflux. There is still a lot about the digestive system that science doesn't know about. Some researches believe that in some people, it can be an autoimmune response, which would explain why medications don't help some people (along with a host of other reasons).

 

Posted 10/3/2015 12:54 AM (GMT 0)
I have found taking an antihistamine, loratadine in this case, helps somewhat with the mucous. I was reluctant to try it at first because I thought it would make the more watery mucous thicker and make things worse, but it hasn't, it doesn't completely get rid of the mucous but it manages to a level that I don't feel like I'm drowning in it. It does absolutely nothing to help the excessive saliva though. Do any of you find its one extreme or the other with your saliva? Either theres way too much or theres none?
Posted 4/6/2016 6:49 AM (GMT 0)
I think that more and more I think about this issue , that all that mucus and saliva is auto imunee response.
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