ppi's cause bile reflux

I strongly believe that PPI's cause bilary reflux. Does anyone know if you stop them bile reflux is going to return to normal values? According to my impedance results, last August, I had a little bile reflux in upright position. (my results were 13,6 bile reflux with normal values 0-6) I have to mention that I also had abnormal multiple weakly acid events.

Manometry and barium was normal.

Last June, doctor put me on PPI for one and half month. After taking them the heartburn vanished but I was experiencing cough, dyspnea, chest pain and a green-yellowish liquid, another strange symptom, rhinitis for First time in my life, hoarseness in my voice.

While my initial symptoms were only heartburn, a lump sensation i my throat and burping. After taking PPI's my symptoms worsen and new atypical reflux symptoms appeared. I strongly believe that omeprazole triggered my bile reflux


Another doctor told me that omeprazole was wrong medicine for my case. ( according to my previous posts, my reflux began immediately after finishing a strong dose of antibiotics for twelve days)

I have stopped omeprazole since last September and thanks God I feel much better than last summer but I am currenlty taking a prokinetic drug and riopan gel before bed.

My doctor told me that I will stop gradually the medicines.

Does anyone have similar experience?

Mary

PS ( sorry for any language mistakes)

Pompadur said...
Yes, PPI's can cause or worsen bile reflux. They can slow down gallbladder function. My first symptoms of lazy gallbladder showed up after a course of PPI's.
I saw a paper about it in pubmed but i don't have the link now.

Hello and thank u for your answer.

my bile reflux also started after taking omeprazole for one and half month last June.

Generally speaking, my reflux nightmare started after finishing a strong course of antibiotics. The first doctor I visited, gave omeprazole and then I started within ten days I gradually experienced coughing, having dyspnea and coughing a green yellowish liquid. So I am strongly believe that omeprazole worsens my reflux.

What did you do in order to resolve your problem with bile reflux? Are you taking any medications?

astroman said...
................."a strong course of antibiotics".

And did you take probiotics at the opposite time of day that you took antibiotics?

This should be common knowledge among Drs, sometimes they ignore the importance of this, without it your good digestive bacteria is dead, and bad bacteria and gut yeast can flourish. Bad bacteria overgrowth can cause a form of reflux too. NP Drs know this, regular "conventional" Drs are usually unaware.

Many times with digestive bacteria imbalance, the bacteria in the bile duct is also upset allowing bad bacteria to flourish there.

So if you didnt take probiotics then, try some now. Like anything, you get what you pay for- cheap probiotics don't survive the stomach acid.

Thank u astroman, I took vivomix ( expensive probiotics) in October but I was taking antacid at the same time. I live in Greece and I eat greek yogurt on a daily basis ( natural probiotic)
I wish I had known the importance of probiotics before all this happened to me. Now it's too late
My symptoms of reflux gradually manifested within a week after finishing the last dose

My results indicated abnormally high events of weakly acid reflux, so there is no available treatment to alleviate my symptoms

Mary

"My results indicated abnormally high events of weakly acid reflux, so there is no available treatment to alleviate my symptoms"

- Weekly, as in not every day? It can vary in many people in a daily basis.

- I'm confused......why are you assuming there is no treatment? There are many treatments, not just acid reucers the Dr rx.

- you are aware of the many natural remedies for reflux, right? Many are listed on this forum. This is often self trial. I dont remember what youve tried other than info on this post.

Many people correct varieties of ailments on their own that regular Dr give up on. Never belive a Dr who says nothing more can be done unless your terminally ill, again, not the case here.

First of all thank you for your conforting words, but my quality of life has been affected by this unbearable condition and this is the reason I am so disappointed.

I did't mean weekly, but weakly acid reflux, which is reflux with pH 4-7, (not acid reflux) and in these cases the symptoms tend to be more atypical rather than the typical symptoms of GERD.
Unofortunately, current treatment approaches are limited and PPI's are not for these cases.

I am completely lost and hopeless...
I was wondering if there is anybody with the same impedance test results? Anyone diagnosed with weakly acidic reflux on this forum???

I found an old member neptunian808 with the same diagnosis of weakly acid reflux and of course no avalaibable treatment offered to her. Neither medications nor surgery....It seems to me like I am deadlocked

Mary