Heart flutterings, flip-flop feelings???

dixie,

Welcome to the A & P Forum. I am glad you have seen your physician and yes caffeine may be the culprit but if I had to give up my Diet Coke, I am sure I would have a heartache for sure.  It is my only vice.

Please browse the forums and start a thread of your own if your comfortable.  We love new members.  Glad to have you with us

Kitt

Living Day By Day

Hello and welcome to HealingWell and the A & P forum. You are right, there are many medical reasons for the "flip flops" and members should always have a physical to be sure their sx are not medical.  One that is ruled out then they can explore with their physician what other disorders may cause the problems.

I am sorry to hear your husband has CHF.  I look forward to getting to know you better.

Again a warm welcome.
Kitt

Dixie,

FYI, my shortness of breath out of the blue was caused by acid reflux but diagnosed as purely anxiety for several years. Now that I've cut out/back on alcohol, carbonated beverages, and caffeine, among other triggers, it is indeed better.

As others have said, you may want to have a routine physical if it's been a while, just to rule out any physical problems. Knowing what causes or doesn't cause certain symptoms helps me focus more on doing the most useful things to prevent or work through them.

percycat

Glad this came back to page 1 or I would have missed it! I get this flip flop feeling as well and it always scares me and leaves me with feelings of anxiety regardless of countless reassurances from doctors and posters on this site. My flip flop is also followed by an urge to cough or burp which generally will end it but others may occur throughout the day. We have been vacationing this weekend and I had many of them yesterday, but rolled through the day with the cough/burp treatment. Got through the day, but wasn't able to enjoy it to the fullest as I was preoccupied with the sensations. Today, and I had a strong one so I took a lorazapam. Didn't have one the rest of the day so maybe it is true that they are anxiety related. Sure wish I would have just taken the medicine yesterday:) Live and learn!

Michelle

Yep... had them off and on all my life! I don't worry about them anymore. Don't like them, but I quit worrying! 8D

Hi all. I have come accross this forum and thought I would join in . I am a sort of walking disater and have everday the problems mentioned in this part of the forum. I get panic attacks every 5 hours 365 days a year and am taking clorazepato 5mg every 5 hours and sometimes washed down with a dose of beta blockers. I get daily. Dizzy spells normaly when I am in my 4th hour and am 1 hor away from taking a tranqui tablet, sweating palms, dificult to breath, pains in left arm and fingers, stabbing pains in head, pains in eyes, chest pains, acid, floppy heart beat, heart beat when in bed is about 65 and then jumps up to 78 after getting up, sometimes I feel as though I am walking on a jelly and my legs are all over the show. So I'm not to bad. I have had for 8 years a slight curve on the negatives on a ECG and have ben in observation 10 hours and up to 15 hours 3 times, they are sick of me!!. I paid a cardiologist 4 years ago to give me a full go over and he said I have a heart like an OX, saw him again 4 months ago and he said the same thing and wanted my wife to be present as he said maybe she will beleave me The local doctors roll their eyes when I see them. BUT I do get all of this and it controls my life 100%, I can not work at 47 years old. If I go out I like someone to be with me as comfort. The problem has no solution as it is in the sub conciousness and can not be controlled. Anxiety attacks as I have are not so common but I get all these gases, pain around the heart, pain in arm pitt and in the thorax area with the normal gurgles of wind around the heart. I smoke 1 pack of fags a day which is part of the problem as it causes gases as does chewing gum etc. OK. So How can I help others here. I think we are looking at "3" possible causes for these "Gases" everyone is talking about. 1. Get your heart checked and do a "force test" as I did running up hill for 20 minutes untill your heart nearly goes bank....JOKE!!, and if all is OK then you can put it down to number 2. Anxiety or Panic attacks. In mild cases these can be disturbing and take you by suprise, normaly when you are on Holiday or relaxing at the weekend or laughing with mates and WHAM. sudden raise in heart beat, sweating, chest pain, dizzyness, can't talk properly, pains in left arm, can't breath properly all of which rings "Heart Attack" but if you have had a GOOD chech over it can't be can it. 3. Back problems or cervical problems, OH I have that as well 3 discs cracked in my neck and press against the medular yahoooo!!. No serious, I have researched on this, the nerves in our neck and behind the lungs are a massive network which run around in between every rib which can cause chest pain and some time it can be very painfull. The same nerves lower down the spin control our digestive system and our bowl movements which causes acid and gases and in turn rises up into our chest area and then gets behind that little void around the back of our heart and pushes it causing irregular beats and a flip flop sensation, once we burb then this pressure is released and the heart goes back to it's normal happy self. I don't drink by the way....hate the stuff. Anyway, a back problem or disck problem can have an effect on our chest and heart area. Well maybe this has helped someone. Regards. Kevin

Dear anxietychewer

Hello and welcome to HealingWell. I am sorry you are having such a rough time but IMHO I feel like you really  need to keep working on your own healing.  It feels to me like you have written yourself off as a lost cause but you want to help others.

I believe in order to help others we must work on helping ourselves.  I am wondering why you feel you cannot beat this......................I truly believe you can but it takes accepting that you are a person with anxiety and remembering your have anxiety, it does not have you.

I am going to post one of our guideline here for the members that are reading your post  :)

4. Use good judgement.  NEVER rely on information or opinions exchanged via the forums or chat rooms to replace necessary, personal consultation(s) with qualified health or medical professionals to meet your individual health or medical needs.  Remember that what's right or has worked for one person may not be what's right for you.

I wish you peace and happiness

Kitt 

I have had these fluttering feelings years ago and went through all the medical test and it was decided that I was getting too much caffiene. I went to decaffinated tea, coffee, sodas and watch my choclate intake and it seemed to go away. Now (years later) I am having them again. I am in the process of going through all the medical test and hopefully they can find out want is happening. I just got done with a events monitor where when I felt the fluttering feeling I pushed a button and it recorded my heart rhythm. I hope they can find out what is happening and correct it because I do not like that feeling and don't want to have to just live with it. I will keep you informed on what my doctor says when I go on the 24th with all the results. Good luck.

After my first panic attack, I started noticing the same thing with my heart. Skipping beats, fluttering, etc. Went to a Doctor, then a cardiologist, went through stress tests, EKG, ECHO, upper GI tests, etc. They told me I had mitral valve prolapse and put me on medication. Naturally I worried about this...would it get worse? What caused it? I monitored it like anyone would. 5 years later I'm in a different city, different doctor, went through all the tests again, same result, same medication. 5 years later my doctor moved and I had a new doctor. Did entire group of tests again, new technology, and there was NO mitral valve prolapse. Doctor said it was common to have this incorrect diagnosis 10 years ago and that the new technology really is so much better. The point to my story: During the 10 years that my mind thought I had mitral valve prolapse, it was almost daily that I noticed my heart skipping beats. After the new tests revealed that I didn't have heart trouble, I notice this only once or twice times a year. Is it a physical or mental thing? The mind is amazing and sometimes not in a good way.

arkclk

You answered the same post twice in a row in the same day at different times...........are you aware of this? 

Thanks

Kitt

I have had this heart "flip-flop" for many years when they come on my heart feels like it is beating really fast then does a summersalt then takes my breath away. I had test ran and they found nothing. I think its because you never really know when it will happen. I dont think it hurts you but it is a very rare thing because I have never meet anyone who knows what I am talking about. but I have been told I have anxiety so I am sure they are related.

 chest butterflies i found are called PVC ( PREMATURE VENTRICULAR CONTRACTION).  combined with acid reflux and stress will send you scared to death to the emergency room, with high blood pressure.  The situation is common and not health threatning.  i hear of many people with the same problem when stress and anxiety come into play which will feed on itself and feel helpless with panic and a chest full of birds not butterflies.  i hear beta blockers can help but i do not want to start that.  doctors sy there is no health risk but advise to find a way to calm down.  i am going to have surgery next week on a rotator cuff and my heart is slapping around again and i am scared to death.  wish the was a PVC anonimous group.  

Thanks, i have a good support group but never too many. went to the hospital yesterday to check in, my heart was haveing bouts of PVC i got more nervous and anxious. the main thing is to have good positive thought and know there are others with the same feelings. in fact very many people. i had some real bad panic attacks as if i was not in my own body, that is scary. i can bring on PVC just by thinking about them, that is wild. i run 1 to 2 miles a day and walk alot. sometimes during cool down i will have a few flutters. i think the more secure emotionally a person can be will lessen the attacts. though my brain likes to come up with tragic thoughts to get me in a panic. i do not understand this. like croaking on the operating table.