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Posted 10/16/2013 2:46 AM (GMT 0)
I had some things I would like some advice on if possible. I can't deal with the nausea and the body temp swings of Effexor (venlafaxine 75mg). I have been on it a little more than a month. I am sick and it is frustrating because I can not tell what is a temperature and what is the Effexor making me hot. Ever since I started I Have had a temp ranging from 98.9-99.7. And at that time a month ago I was not sick. It makes me tired all the time. I think it has come to the point where I can't tell the difference between my sickness and the side effects of the medicine. I left a message at the doctor and hope to get in touch with them tomorrow. I have the extended release capsules. I read a great article where someone took 3 grains out a day and had zero side effects. I think that would be more beneficial to me rather than doing the whole skip a day then take a day routine. I don't think doctors realize how serious this medicine is. I skipped yesterday and when 24 hours came around and didn't take it I could definitely feel the withdrawal symptoms. Just want to feel normal again. I feel worse than I have ever. I am coming off this medicine with or without the doctor's approval.

And regarding my sickness, I went to my school doctor today and they gave me a Z pack. If that doesn't work then they will try a steroid. So I really wanna make sure that I legit have a fever and it isn't just the medicine that's making me feel weird.

This is truly  the first drug I have been on for more than 3 weeks so maybe it is too strong for me? Regardless I am done with it. I will deal with the anxiety and rely on the Xanax until I can get back on the buspar

Sorry for the long post but thanks to anyone who takes the time to read it.

Posted 10/16/2013 6:04 AM (GMT 0)
I wish you would ask the prescribing doctor about cutting back, as far as xanax thats the only drug I ever
used for anxiety, it comes in three strengths and I have used them all, contrary to some fears of others I
did not have any addiction problems. I also had group therapy and got to where I only used xanax when I
really needed to come down and couldnt without it. It's been two years now and I have not had one, I do
wish you luck and prayers, Peace!

Larry ***
Posted 10/16/2013 2:47 PM (GMT 0)
I'm just curious, is the medicine helping with your anxiety? And if so, why would you want to come off it? I am on Effexor xr too, and although it hasn't helped with my anxiety so far, I would like to give it a chance. I have only been on it for 18 days at 75mg. I think the xr version is easier to come off than the regular ones, as far as I've heard. I too feel tired all the time and unmotivated, but I was hoping that would eventually dissipate. I sure hope you talk to your doctor about your concerns before you do anything on your own, and most of all, I hope you feel better very soon!!!
Posted 10/16/2013 3:35 PM (GMT 0)
I didn't have a great experience on medication. I was on paxil for about two years. I think it did help me with my anxiety, but the side effects were too much for me. I gained a lot of weight and no matter what I did, I could not lose it. It was pretty frustrating for me. When I felt comfortable enough to handle my anxiety on my own I got off it and actually lost the weight too which actually almost worked as a medication of its own.

I guess what I'm saying is that if you can deal with the side effects, medication is a great thing. However, if you can't maybe you can try other methods of dealing with the anxiety or even a different kind of medication.

My only issue now (concerning medication) is that I have gone through bouts of anxiety and am currently going through one now and I have considered medication again, but I'm afraid of the side effects. Great little circle I've put myself in.
Posted 10/16/2013 4:23 PM (GMT 0)
my 2 cents:

I have been on Effexor XR 7 weeks. The side effects were brutal. Sweating, anxiety and insomnia were pretty bad and I can say that after 4 weeks, it got a lot better. I was taking Ativan to help with anxiety and sleep. I was very concerned about addiction. I can happily say, I havent poped an Ativan in over a week. Passion flower tea and tincture have helped as well.
Posted 10/16/2013 4:58 PM (GMT 0)
I have to say it did help with my anxiety @ coopsmm. BUT ONLY TO A EXTENT, i am sick and I still can't help but think I have some sort of life ending disease. It is the other side effects though. It seems to be getting worse as I have been on it longer. The other side effects aren't worth the relief from a simple GAD disorder. The nausea, insomnia , diaherra, and the most bothersome for me has been the constant body temp changes. This medicine makes me very hot and it is uncomfortable. Overall I just feel like a zombie.

I think apart of the problem is this is the longest I have been on a psychological drug. I have never been on a drug like this before and I think its way too strong for me. My doctor is a regular MD and not a psychologist. Maybe that's a problem as well.

I first started off on buspirone and that was the best drug I was on I think. It was purely for anxiety. I am not depressed or anything like that.
Posted 10/16/2013 4:59 PM (GMT 0)
And I agree with Larry 100 percent,
I don't get why doctors are so eager to prescribe antidepressants like crazy but are so hesitant to prescribe a drug that actually works like Xanax. Blows my mind. Both have withdrawl properties..
Posted 10/16/2013 5:57 PM (GMT 0)
I think it is because Xanax (and other benzos, though to varying degrees) are addictive, and there has been a lot of abuse. Less so with SSRIs. Having said that, the only pdoc I have ever seen was perfectly willing to prescribe Xanax, and indeed strongly encouraged me to take it, IF I felt like I needed it, on a prn basis. He could probably tell that I was not likely to abuse it. I am very careful about such things, and do not have a history of addiction.
Posted 10/17/2013 1:47 AM (GMT 0)
I just like it a lot more than this effexor . This stuff makes me so tired
Posted 10/17/2013 2:15 AM (GMT 0)
I get why you like Xanax.  I do too.  But in my opinion, and that of many professionals, it is not a good long term solution.  If Buspar helped you, why not go back to that?   And if you think you want/need an SSRI, but don't like the side effects of Effexor, maybe try a different SSRI?  Lexapro (which I was on at one point) is, for many people, easier to tolerate than other SSRIs.  So that would be one idea. 
Posted 10/17/2013 3:49 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the help medved! I am currently weaning off the Effexor and going to wait a week and start the buspar. Kind of anxious to see how I tolerate coming off this stuff. According to my doctor it's just like every other antidepressants withdrawl but from what I have heard online it seems to be much worse that that... I am going to do the skip a day then take a dose routine. Hopefully it won't be too bad! And as a SSRI I did not tolerate that well. I was on celexa and it made my chest/heart hurt. So I wanna stay clear of that . Hopefully buspar is my answer! I should of never went away from it in the first place. Shame on me and my doctor
Posted 10/17/2013 5:20 AM (GMT 0)
I do hope you find the answers you are seeking, Peace.

Larry ***
Posted 10/18/2013 2:47 AM (GMT 0)
SNRI or SSRI causes the body to not know how many neurotransmitters are in the bodies archive.

Those drugs are called 'ReUptake inhibitors".  Which blocks Neurotransmitters from leaving the synapse so they are force to be sucked up and used.....

If the uptake inhibitor wasn't present, then the neurotransmitters would "reuptake" back into the pre-synapse and the person would continue the anxiety symptoms....

depression is the foundation of anxiety.... if a person doesn't FEEL like they have depression then its a underlying depression which is causing the anxiety or panic attacks...

These have to be functioning to be healed completely.

1. The gut health. if the gut isn't absorbing, then neurotransmitter cannot be made from the food that we eat.

2. post synapse. If the post synapse isn't firing(action potential) then the neurotransmitters aren't working.

3.hormone. if the hormone system is out of wack, then that causes incorrect conditioning of neurotransmitters.

to fix the brain u must add 1;10 ratio of both tyrosine(dopamine,epinepherine,norepinephorine), 5htp(serotonin)

example 1:10 ratio     150=5htp    1500=tyrosine.  never use tryptophan it is used to make too many things, 5htp crosses blood brain barrier immediately to become serotonin.

 

Posted 10/18/2013 2:58 AM (GMT 0)
level 1  (8am and before bed)

5htp  150mg

tyrosine 1500mg

200 folic acid

b6 50mg or 30mg

lysine 150 mg

vitamin C 100 mg

Calcium 100 mg

level 2 (after one week if no results)  (8am, 12pm with same formula, 4pm with different formula for dosing)

5htp  150mg

tyrosine 1500mg

200 folic acid

b6 50mg or 30mg

lysine 150 mg

vitamin C 100 mg

Calcium 100 mg

4pm dose change

300mg 5htp

1000mg tyrosine

300mg folic acid

level 3( 8am, 12pm reg formula, 4pm, 7pm alternate formula)

*THREE, THREE of the daily dosages must be taken with cysteine 1500mg and selenium 200mg. so if you are taking 4 dosages daily do not take more than 6000 mg per day of cysteine.

Posted 10/18/2013 3:02 AM (GMT 0)
 

I copied these formula's from Dr. Kalish neuroreplete formula..... I was originally on the formula but I got tired of going and paying a doctor so I made my own formula by buying the individual items....

The amino acids wont absorb if you have gut issues... u will need pancreatic enzymes to digest the amino acids...

if you want accurate analysis u must have a renal urine analysis to determine neurotransmitter output by checking the urine.

 once the brain is firing correctly, the gut is making neurotransmitters, then anxiety can exist no more, as well as depression or any other malfunction of brain gut connections

Post Edited (knowledge14811) : 10/17/2013 9:05:21 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/18/2013 6:55 AM (GMT 0)
Wow thank u knowledge im going to try yr regime once off paxil. Where do u get all the individual component s ?.smu thanks for your info too. Im coming off paxil cos side effects sweating dizziness headaches and dr has given me effexor to start after 2 days off but I don't think I will now your side effects sound the same and I remember trying effexor before and suffered terrible insomnia so came off. I asked gp for something I could just take when ive got anxiety as I know I wouldn't take it unless absolutely desperate (ive got out of date diazepam in cupboard) its just knowing u got it if u need it she said no its too addictive and they dont use it like that now so I think I shall go it alone again these side effects are awful. Wish u luck xxxx
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