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Posted 5/4/2018 7:05 AM (GMT 0)
Hi again,

Since my anxiety attack last week it seems to have messed up my sleeping pattern. I can fall asleep in seconds on a night time but i wake up every day at 4am and its impossible to get back to sleep. Instant stomach churning and excitement forcing me out of bed.

So if I get up at 4, i go out for a run and keep my mind busy. By about 8am im battling to keep my eyes open. But if I try to sleep I wake up in panic. I have to wait until late in the day before I can get even just 15/20 minutes rest.

I was on Mirtazapine for 6 months which has aided my sleep but since Im not on that now Im not sure how to fix the sleep issues.

Anyone have any tips on breaking this cycle? I dont wanna have to get more drugs from the DR. Although im keen to try natural remedies.
Posted 5/4/2018 7:20 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Ox,

Prescription sleeping pills might be a help to fix the situation.

I do not know about Mirtazapine .

Looks like me you have high anxiety levels at night so anti -anxiety drug (like ativan)might also help.

Again me no doctor,But have tried both routes and now my body is so used to prescription pills.
It doesn't work anymore and i am still awake.

When I try hard I cannot sleep a wink but when do not I sleep in a instant.

I do not understand but keeping a trip to sleep center away.
I need sleep study done.

You can try these routes or NEW one that will help get desired rest you deserve.
Good luck~
Posted 5/4/2018 8:55 AM (GMT 0)
Hi

Sorry to hear you are having sleep problems.

Have you ever tried Valerian Root? It is basically natures Valium and helps to aid sleep. You can buy it in most chemists so it's worth giving it a go.

Also doing some Mindfulness Meditation before bed can really help with have some links in our resources so take a look.

Keep us posted.

Hibee
Posted 5/5/2018 1:25 AM (GMT 0)
I second the valerian root. I take mine with melatonin together works great most of the time. no hangover the next day. give it a try. dosnt clash with most meds either.
Posted 5/5/2018 5:42 AM (GMT 0)
Yes MELATONIN is good.

I have tried it.It works.
Posted 5/5/2018 8:03 AM (GMT 0)
Hi again,

Tried the valerian root. Definitely noticed a more sedated sleep...

However didnt stop me waking up 1 then 3 hours later. Seems I'm averaging on 3/4 hours sleep per night at the moment. Will try the melatonin tonight.
Posted 5/5/2018 4:20 PM (GMT 0)
OX123 Did this start when you went off of Mirtazapine/Remeron? It is a drug than can cause withdrawl symptoms if you don't go off of it very, very slowly. I did find information on the net pretty easily so you might want to check that out.
Posted 5/5/2018 10:02 PM (GMT 0)
I tapered over 2 months. But only spent a few days on the last dose. There were no immediate withdrawals apart from stomach pains. This was tolerable.

Felt great for a full month after stopping. Then something upset me and triggered an anxiety episode lasting 2 weeks. So technically yes it did start when i went off, but a month later! lol
Posted 5/6/2018 5:15 AM (GMT 0)
Slept 6.5 hours last night! and no anxiety this morning :o

Couldnt find the melatonin but i took the valerian root again.
Posted 5/6/2018 5:42 AM (GMT 0)
cool!looks like its working !

keep posting ~
Posted 5/6/2018 9:11 PM (GMT 0)
Talked to a pharmacist friend.He says need to try lunesta or sonata for sleep rather tham ambien.

So looking into that from my doc.

After my doc says ok ,i will have to go on that.

They might even help you .

TRY .
Posted 5/6/2018 10:19 PM (GMT 0)
chilly- I got a free trial of lunesta from my dr and it was very weak compared to ambiean. but we are all diff so mabey it will work for you for a while . I was unable to get a dr to prescribe ambiean for me this last go round with insomnia. OX123-6.5 hrs is great! wait till you mix the valerian with melatonin. good stuff
Posted 5/6/2018 10:23 PM (GMT 0)
chilly- I got a free trial of lunesta from my dr and it was very weak compared to ambiean. but we are all diff so mabey it will work for you for a while . I was unable to get a dr to prescribe ambiean for me this last go round with insomnia. OX123-6.5 hrs is great! wait till you mix the valerian with melatonin. good stuff . best otc for sleep that you buy was alteril . really put me under. except you cant take it with many/ most phyc meds which most of us here are already on. lol we wouldn't be here otherwise would we
Posted 5/8/2018 4:22 PM (GMT 0)
Check and see if any of your other meds make you sleepy. If you are now taking them during the day ask your Dr. if you could switch to night. My Dr. layers my meds so I need BP meds, he gives me one that will work and make me sleepy. too. I take 2 muscle relaxants and a stomach med that tends to make you sleepy.

I do take melatonin every night which you should take at about dinner time because it takes awhile to start working. Your body makes it at about that time. It's to tell your body it's time to wind down for night time.
Posted 6/13/2018 8:22 AM (GMT 0)
Hi

Pleased to hear the Valerian Root is working.

Hibee
Posted 6/14/2018 2:05 PM (GMT 0)
Trazadone works somewhat for me, I take 50 mg each night and it helps. I can put myself into la la land with 100 mg, but then the hang over is too much to function right the next day. One thing I did try at the suggestion of my psy for sleep was the sleep restriction therapy model. I had been sleeping 4-5 hours a night tops, so she had me not go to bed until midnight, and get up at 5:30 a.m. each morning. After 3 nights it was to the point where my body was craving sleep, and got me back into a pattern of sleeping again. I still do this, to bed at 11 and wake at 6. With Trazadone that is. Now I am getting 6 hours of sleep most nights which is good compared to half that. Just something that worked for me.
Posted 6/15/2018 12:32 PM (GMT 0)
Not a bad idea, i will try that tonight.

Since I posted this thread my sleep did actually settle out again, but I fell into another anxiety episode and only just coming out of that one. So im sleeping from 11-4.30 religiously which is getting me by for now.
Posted 6/16/2018 6:12 PM (GMT 0)
You said you went off Mirtazapine anti-depressant, and then started having trouble sleeping.

Maybe the problem is you went off Mirtazapine, for anxiety and depression and sleep, for instance, but didn't go on any other medicine for emotional problems.

Lack of sleep can be a sign that there's a larger, underling reason you aren't sleeping, like anxiety/depression for instance.
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