Whats detoxinfying feel like?

stopped my headache meds for a couple days and clonozapam for just 2 days and now i feel and look  pale and cold, and sweating before bed .

 Ive also started drinking celery , and carrot juice so not sure if im being cleaned out, making myself worse or if something else is going on.

 I also started taking b2, feverfew for my headaches which are massive next to my temples and ears.

The severity of your detox/withdrawl will depend on how high the dose of these meds were and how long you were on them.  Clonozepam isn't someting you should stop cold turkey without medical advice, but congratulations on trying to support your body with healthy remedies.  If you are turning funny colours i would suggest going back on a small dose and visiting your doc for advice.  Goodluck!

Meds is not something you should toy around with...If you only took one day I am not so much thinking of withdrawl...

I would think along the same lines as Normal if you only took it the one day it is not w/d you are going thru
I am thinking something else is going on
Please can you not go to ER or something if you get worse and what temp are you running low grade or??
Take care
LYN

Did you restart the Clonazepam? I don't mean to get in your business, but four months of 1 mg/day probably needs to be tapered. No sense in causing yourself to get sick, you know?

If you don't want to ask your doctor (which is preferred), I've read that Clonazepam is usually tapered by reducing the dose by .25 mg every two weeks. I got that from an abstract of a pharmacology journal while researching the drug before I went on it, but I can't seem to find it again. I strongly suggest speaking with your doctor as people have had seizures by stopping too quickly!

Ya don't want that.

im not dependant on it, why is everyone getting on my case here but noone is getting on everyone else here taking this drug and others which are more powerful. Also the pill is so small it can't be cut up into 4 pieces and what do i take for anxiety and or headaches and nervousness then??????

so what do i take if i want to stop taking clonozapam so i can get better? My diet has changed and my question was never about clonzapam addiction and i cannot see my doctor and he will turn his head if he even sees me. Im wondering about why i was pale, but ok

Hey guys - there's a difference between PHYSICAL DEPENDENCE and ADDICTION. Clearly, his body was physically dependent on the med, but he was NOT addicted. Addiction is totally different animal. And please trust me on this I've work in the substance abuse/mental health field for several years. You can be physically dependent on a med and not even know it until you're not taking it anymore. Please don't confuse the two terms.

Like people have mentioned, stopping clonazepam, or any other prescribed med for that matter, should be something you discuss with your doctor PRIOR to doing it. You should really start taking your regular dosage until you can see a doctor who can give you a tapering regimen. That is the only safe way and symptom-free way to do it.

ttwarrior
I apoligise for misreading your post I thought you had only been on one day ....

No one here has the right to tell you that you are addicted and I also feel that you should not be Jumped on like this
I have taken valium or ativan for over 30 yrs yes I have a physical dependecy Debaser but I also have gone from taking daily one or two to now only when needed and with no ill effects.......

Thanks Ali I totally agree with you on this ....
Debaser things are different for everyone .......so are meds to a point ........

Ali has explained this very well IMO.....Please refrain from using caps as it makes it look like you are yelling okay

There is a difference with pills I take morphine for pain and I am not getting"HIGH" on it it goes to the pain only
IF you have not the pain you will get a buzz no doubt

Lets please have this thread a bit calmer and not so down on ttwarrior ...only asking for input /advice .....

Thanks for co operation

Haha...I'm not sure what wasn't calm about this thread. To me it seems like a civilized discussion.

I simply asked what the technical difference between "addiction" and "physical dependence" is. I'm not saying anyone's getting high or taking their meds for fun. Quite the contrary. And if anyone would read what I wrote, they should see that.

The only reason I used caps was because that's how it's printed on the FDA insert that came with my Klonopin. It was for emphasis, I presume.

I'm not down on ttwarrior AT ALL. To me it seemed like he was cutting himself off cold from a med he'd been on for a while. That sounds dangerous to me...I was worried.

Anyway, from assorted dictionaries:

Addiction: compulsive physiological need for and use of a habit-forming substance characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal

Physical Dependence: the physiological adaptation of the body to the presence of a drug. It is defined by the development of withdrawal symptoms when drugs are discontinued, when the dose is reduced abruptly or when an antagonist or an agonist-antagonist is administered.

Now, I wasn't yelling at anyone or calling anyone an addict in a pejorative sense. I want to make that REALLY clear.

As for getting off the point, I thought dependence was relevant. I've seen people in withdrawal before. What happens to them? They get sweaty and pale and have headaches. I, of course, do not have the expertise to say he's experiencing withdrawal but it was the first thing that came to mind.

Anyway, I didn't mean to make anyone feel bad or angry or whatever.

hopeful82 said...
Hey guys - there's a difference between PHYSICAL DEPENDENCE and ADDICTION. Clearly, his body was physically dependent on the med, but he was NOT addicted. Addiction is totally different animal. And please trust me on this I've work in the substance abuse/mental health field for several years. You can be physically dependent on a med and not even know it until you're not taking it anymore. Please don't confuse the two terms.

Like people have mentioned, stopping clonazepam, or any other prescribed med for that matter, should be something you discuss with your doctor PRIOR to doing it. You should really start taking your regular dosage until you can see a doctor who can give you a tapering regimen. That is the only safe way and symptom-free way to do it.

hi, hopeful ... again, i know i'm just a newbie ... i do hope not to be offensive in any of my posts here in this forum ...

from personal experience, a benzo dependence can surely feel like an addiction ... unfortunately, like debaser's future road, i am doctor "dependent" or "addicted" (pick your term *smile* ) to a benzo ... the tolerance w/d are almost as horrible as actual w/d ...

some will say that some people really need this drug, but surely, there are other non-addictive therapies out there ... had i known what these drugs CAN do, i never would've even entertained the idea of taking just one pill, let alone take it as prescribed, ya know?  please, don't ostracize me for saying these things about benzos, but one can only know if they've been through it, themselves ...

i do realize that there are a certain percent of "us" out here who have such a difficult time with taper and w/d, but, if i were someone thinking about going on the drug, i certainly wouldn't want to take that chance (of course, taking into consideration of what i know, now) ...

i would certainly talk to my doctor about alternative therapies for anxiety ... only use a chemical if it's a life threatening condition and i certainly wouldn't take it longer than 7 days ... of course, again, knowing what i know now ...

Well, speaking only for myself, I believe most homeopathic remedies are scams. Through the years I've tried a few for different things, and to put it bluntly, none of them worked. What may be worse is that these homeopathic substances are not studied like pharmaceuticals are. They're also not held to the same production standards. So, no, they're not an attractive option for me.

Plus, it seems you haven't been following this forum for long, but my life in particular had rapidly descended into complete disarray. I don't have time to fool around with a little of this and a little of that. I do hate medicines and have tried abstaining from them to the point of exhaustion. Not being a candidate for SSRIs, my doctor prescribed the benzodiazapine and I eventually took it. Now I can function where as before I simply could not.

Things had reached a crisis point and it was an easy decision.

I was prescribed the Klonopin more than three weeks prior to taking it. During that time I researched it ad nauseam. I literally searched EVERYWHERE for answers (practically took over this forum, and that's only part of it) and I feel like I know more about Klonopin than just about any lay person.
"Nonchalant" doesn't describe me at ALL. So, yeah, I'm familiar with the dependency issue. Most people don't seem to have a problem with it if they are disciplined and taper properly, it seems. Maybe there are some that have trouble even if they do everything right, but I'll take my chances. Anyway, I educated myself, weighed my options, and made an informed decision.

Don't get me wrong. I think it's good you're here offering an alternative viewpoint. But please be careful that you don't scare everyone half to death. Mods, pardon me if that statement was out of line, but that's the way I feel. In general I think people are overmedicated, but this anxiety stuff is a bona fide monster. It will consume you. We need help however we can get it, basically.

I have to agree here I am on Benzo's and for me it IS the right choice I have made along with Doctors

There are many out there that cannot just do it on homeopathic remedies .......

THEY nor I need to feel no shame in having to take the benzo's and yes Ali is right you need to use a certain amount of caution..........

This thread has gone from a question about Juice to.......... addiction

I honestly think it has run its course