wow. didn't know there was anyone else who needs to use grindcare longer term, like me. there are only 3 situations in which I ever got CES biofeedback start kicking off constantly thus...
heh, heh, it'll be interesting to see when I need to buy more Grindcare supplies, maybe in the year 2525, if man is still alive...(I think that was an obnoxious AM radio lyric a few decades ago) I...
slv24, if you need to be on an anti-depressant, you can always try one that does not have the occasional side effect of increasing brusixm. Like the older, less expensive tricyclic amitriptyline. It...
wow, FSUDAL. I googled myotrac 4000, and it you did great to pay only $100 for a machine that is almost $500 on Amazon new, before even paying for leads or gel pads. The cost for pads must add up, of...
Sorry, FSUDAL, can't answer your questions. I think I saw one on ebay once, during a google search. But your questions do make me wonder if you might want to rent Grindcare at first, from someone who...
glad you are getting your connectivity problems solved! I am ashamed to tell you how old some of the lot numbers are that I have on disposable gel pads...seriously...I am looking at one from...
I maybe didn't understand you correctly, where you think that being a clencher means Grindcare won't work as well for you, as it does for a person who grinds their teeth. It will indeed work just as...
heu apollo66. I responded to your question in the old thread on TMD. Hope it helps. It took a while for me to grok how tiny the electricity of muscle contractions are, and therefore how important it...
Hey, great idea to start a thread for those using electrolmylography sleep studies to diagnose and stop TMD. Will go there next. Sorry, I buy my gel pad so far in advance and in bulk that I am no...
hi TMJpain, There is a website you can google "Grindcare USA" and it has some kind of a news release of a testimonial from some guy who used Grindcare in Vancouver, Canada, and I think I saw a study...
hey apollo, I've just done like you, which is to try things out, and think. And my tips and tricks are almost all in the little 15 page user manual, which I only skimmed at the beginning. As for...
wow, I'd be bummed, if I had to wear an orthotic, just to get Grindcare to work! Many dentists still incorrectly think that malocclusion is the biggest cause of TMD bruxism. It is true that for a...
hi apollo66, you must have more experience than me with grindcare, and I thought whichever dentist gave it to you is supposed to make sure you are getting good contacts and readings? I never...
well, you can stop bruxism (clenching OR grinding), now that there is non-invasive EMG with CES. Google Grindcare, or google TMD EMG CES. Just make sure you get an effective diagnosis, before you...
Wow. So good to hear that you got the bruxism down with managing stress, anxiety, and beneficial bacteria. I have seen people prevent a passing bout of bruxism turn into a chronic case of TMD, and it...
Formvital, I am so glad you switched to the temporalis on your other side. Through various spinal surgeries I had to develop habit of sleeping on only one side, and years later had to swtich due to...
hello biteme et al. I am not selling a product. You want to make me seem to be someone I am not. Are you another person or dentist who has invested years in some kind of unproven bruxism treatment?...
hey johnboy, don't know what Patterson means by a 'patient' product as opposed to the Grindcare unit itself. If I have to guess, I bet that the patient item is probably the lead, which patients would...
hi johnboy, What a nice thing to hear, thanks. Sorry that you are another sufferer. It would be too frustrating for me to say how much I have spent on anti-bruxing treatments that don't work, and I...
Sorry to have to tell you that I do know know if there is any 'normal' number of clenches. That's why I note that trends over time (the general direction of your line chart, meaning average trend) is...
Ah, ok, I get you now. 2 things to consider with your dentist: 1. Is my mouthguard putting my teeth into a good position, to prevent any malocclusion while wearing it? He can check with you chomping...
Sorry to hear that your teeth hurt. A properly made mouthguard will protect your expensive dental work and teeth, so it can be a wise investment. In the small number of cases where a bad bite is...
Oh dear, MKhalid, I just noticed in your signature that you are still a smoker. Not good for a lot of reasons, including being bad for sleep, acid reflux, etc. Of course, in the USA we have to pay...
I wouldn never even hazard a guess on what sleeping position is best for you. I think that is unique to each person. On the other hand, there are many websites that have strong opinions on this, like...
Looks like you are saying you've used it for 5 nights? That you had 2 nights with 9 hours and 8 hours sleep and then a night wiht 6 hours of sleep? But then what happened on nights 4 and 5 - why does...
hi khalid, glad you finally got to try Grindcare. Hope it works for you. I never even bought the headband with audible alarm, for 2 reasons: first, I figured that if it was loud enough to interrupt...
Wow, Formvital. Amazing the challenges you and I have just to be able to use Grindcare - our cases have got to be real outliers. My sensory nerve damage makes the highest level of stim seem too weak...
I am not sure that Grindcare will work for you after getting Botoxed. It depends which muscles were botoxed, how much, and how quickly you re-enervate after Botox. When you found that the baclofen...
dear mjkhalid, sorry to hear that you are dealing with chronic pain from bruxing. Grindcare was the only thing that worked for me, and I tried EVERYTHING. Very very unfortunate that you let someone...
There is a company that makes a headband that supposedly can read muscle clenches then beeps...louder and louder each time you brux again. I remember rejecting the very notion, not only because it...
arrghhh, sorry to be so late once again in checking this forum. Been moving. I did not know that there is any easy way to order Grindcare or its supplies from inside the USA yet. My guess is that...
buddyand petey, glad to hear that you survived! Nothing took me longer than recovering from head traumas! Although most of the improvement is in the first year(s), it is amazing how much I was still...
hey formvital, sorry, been moving. You can set sensitivity of Grindcare between 1 and 99. If you have the electrode too sensitive you'll get crazy amounts of grinding. (Do this in the config menu). I...
Thks, makes sense that the gel is for conductivity. You know, I don't know what constitutes an episode of bruxing that you upload in the AM for the nice little line charts bruxing. They have to have...
I wonder why removing the center of the 3 gel pads would make the current stronger? Without the gel dot, you don't get the conductivity needed in order to feel biofeedback. I am remembering how...
glad to hear someone else is getting help from Grindcare. It certainly isn't easy to use at first, until you can get it down to a routine, like brushing your teeth...did you know that African's...
Hiya, yep, Grindcare has definitely made the difference between life and death for me. But that's because it properly both diagnosed AND treated me, because it was bruxism that was sending me off the...
life sure is better with grindcare - I can count on having some great days every week - a huge change from having been someone who could never even make an appointment without a feeling of...
Terrible ear pain and headaches lead many clench sufferers, who have ruined their TMjoint, to useless treatments. I had the athrocentesis (TM joint flush) like, you, even an oroplasty (had the bones...
Beware of diagnosing by trying different meds. You could think that you have bruxism and it is causing all your pain and/or headaches, when it can be from something else. Trying drugs is indeed the...
well, perlymerly, glad you got some relief with baclofen. A dental visit can worsen the pain caused by bruxism (whether clenching or grinding), but if anti-inflammatories, resting of the jaw (soft...
well, I've learned a lot more about chronic disabling migraines versus chronic disabling pain from clenching or bruxing in your sleep. The third disabling condition often not diagnosed or treated...
forgive me if i have already asked you some of these questions, but I don't remember answers: if you have hereditary migraine (likely), and the migraines are what is disabling you, the only course to...
there is a giant industry of doctors who can find structural problems, suggest fixes, and it turns out not to touch the real problem. for example, 50% of backs x-ray'ed show disc problems that could...
well, i hope you are exercising to a good sweat daily, as just one of many relaxation techniques, and get your stress evaluated and dealt with, which is by far the most productive angle. My story of...
yes I have used mouthguards and noted it in my post. Very useful for protecting the teeth from being wrecked by years of bruxism grinding or clenching. But mouthguards do nothing to stop the bruxism....
wow, if you have migraines often enough and severe enough to be disabling, you should be seeing a headache specialist, or neurologist with alot of experience or specialty in headaches. Hormonal...
you really should RESOLVE the difference in your and your doctor's assesments - he thinks you have not improved and you think you are plenty functional enough. Having a doctor who wants you to do...
there is a long list of migraine preventative drugs that include taking (in lower doses than origianally intended) anti-epileptics like Topamax, anti-depressants old style (pamelor), calcium channel...
fina and jxpress especially, read my post from 8/17/08 "tmj - botox for TMJ, TMD, jaw clenching not enough -- need to stop the activity". I think that maybe as few as 1% of those not helped by the...