Not a very active thread.... :-( Eight-year update of my GG procedure. No noticeable changes since last year. I'm still getting up once a night, and still experience some frequency in the day....
SEVEN-YEAR UPDATE ----------------------- It's now been seven years since my Gat-Goren procedure on 30 May 2011. Nothing much has changed, for the better or worse, since my last update a year ago....
SIX-YEAR UPDATE -------------------- It's now been over six full years since I had my GG procedure on 30 May 2011. I'm typically pretty punctual posting updates, but this year I got distracted. Sorry...
Neil, No--I'm not in regular contact with other guys. I tried to email one of the old regulars months ago, but he never responded....
No. I didn't notice any inflammation following the procedure....
Interesting stuff, guys! I didn't realize that another researcher had published a paper supporting GG. I believe that the veins in GG are closed with a standard sclerotizing agent. Nothing new to...
Hi Neil! I'm sorry that the PAE you had didn't work. Folks on the patient.info prostate forum have been reporting generally good results from this. It's done at two hospitals near me (Duke and UNC)...
Yes, I've noticed that. My T levels had gradually decreased year by year to very low levels. Worse, there were a lot of even lower plunges from time to time. I associate these plunges with...
5-Year Update ========= I can't believe it's been five years since my Gat-Goren procedure, 30 May 2011, to be exact. Things continue as they have been these past two years. On some nights, especially...
########## 4-1/2 YEAR UPDATE ############ How time flies! The calendar says it's almost been 4.5 since my Gat-Goren (GG) procedure of 30 May 2011. I'm filing my report three weeks early because I'm...
You described it accurately. I had mine done in Costa Rica by a US board-certified diagnostic radiologist. He did it at the same time as the bilateral Doppler color ultrasound, which Dr. Gat needed....
Here's how my prostate was measured: Before procedure: 51 g, intra-abdominal ultrasound (painless) by diagnostic radiologist 1-year post procedure: 22.3 g, TRUS (painful) by skeptical urologist...
1rphguy-- I've updated the running list with your latest report. Thanks for that. It's my impression, too, that PAE works faster than GG, for the reasons you give. At least that's the impression I...
Reminder: The running list of progress reports is on page 2 of this forum. I usually update it whenever there's a new development....
Michael, I'm glad that Urolift and Rx drugs have given you relief. We discuss every approach to BPH on this forum: PAE, Urolift, GG, laser, TURP. It's whatever folks want to discuss. First-person...
ac72-- Has Frank discovered a new Gat-Goren Fountain of Youth in Florida? There are probably many forum readers asking themselves this question. In my mind, this remains an open question, waiting to...
Sashman and MGL59: Thanks for your reports. I've updated the running list on page 2 of this thread....
Frank, I'm glad you had such good results. It would be ideal if there were a Stateside provider of the G-G procedure. I've checked out South Florida Vascular's web site and they seem reputable and...
Thanks for checking in, Andy. I'll update the "Running List" ....
Hullo Eddy, I think you're on the right track. You probably saw the "Running List" of patients and outcomes a couple pages back. GG has its share of both outright failures and great successes, but...
Rather than harsh laxatives, you might want to try bulking agents like psyllium fiber. It can be bought at the health food stores in "bulk" form or as capsules. Asian (that is, Asian Indian) food...
This thread focuses on whatever guys want to post about. When it started it was rather limited to GG, but later on guys started posting about their experiences with PAE and other methods. So the...
Glad you're still following the board, Clap. Did I detect a note of skepticism in your take on the news report? I find the story surprising because this is the first famous patient of the GG...
MGL59, Thanks for your most excellent and detailed report. I've updated your entry in the Running List. I agree that drugs merely postpone problems with the prostate. I wish that I had had my GG...
Thanks for the update, Jeff. I added you to the Running List....
Hi Bob, The sonogram equipment calculates the volume (same as weight, since 1 cc weighs very close to 1 gram) automatically, or with very limited operator input. It's not like the doctor spends a...
I added your report as you requested, Bob....
Frank: Thanks for the update. Very informative. Here is my updated running list of progress for posters on this forum: Let me know of omissions and corrections. ###### [3]Running List of Guys and...
Bob, God only knows that you deserve some peace of mind after all you've been through, Bob. I follow you on the Topix "Greenlight complications" board, too. I only wish I knew! I feel the variations,...
Hi Bob! I'd like to get another ultrasound, but unfortunately I can get it done only at my urologist's, and he only does transrectal U/S. That's just too painful to satisfy my curiosity. If he had...
Four-year update I had my Gat-Goren (GG) procedure on 30 May 2011. It's been just over four years now. Pardon my tardiness; eldercare issues have been soaking up my attention. I reported last year...
Hi Bevuk, Welcome to the board. I hope your S.O. appreciates the research you are doing on his behalf. Don't be so quick to rule out "arterial embolisation" (PAE). There's an active discussion this...
Gavrikon-- I'm sorry that the good initial results didn't hold for you. But if you abstain for 48 hours before the next PSA blood draw, I bet the results will be much less a cause for concern. As for...
Bob: I always look forward to your posts; they are always so informative. How unfortunate that you continue to have problems years after your first procedure. A question struck me the other day, and...
Thanks for posting reports, guys! I've been adding them to the "running list" on page 5 of this thread. Thanks, Gav--I got you added. Hey the rest of you lurkers out there--Check in, please, and help...
FWIW: PAE at UNC Here's something that might be of interest to folks looking at PAE options. There was a glowing review on the Patient.co.uk web site from a patient after a PAE procedure at the...
Sorry for confusing your name, Ian. I fixed it in my last post. We might be talking about the same thing in different terms. The anatomy of this network of veins is quite complex, and so is the...
Hi Ian! Welcome to the forum. Thanks for posting early so we can follow your progress as it happens. I think you are the first PCa patient to post here. Yes, it is the Intraspermatic Veins (ISVs) and...
Carl: Thanks for your contribution to the board. The most informative and intriguing posts are reports by new members like yourself. Every such post--positive or negative--is another point of light...
Karnal, I'm sorry that your case wasn't appropriate for the G-G procedure. I sort of expected as much. And, oh yes, please do keep the board posted on your Holep procedure. There are many positive...
Good find, Martin. If I were in Karnal's shoes, I'd be tempted to skip the Urolift and go directly to PAE (assuming that GG isn't appropriate, which is quite possibly the case). It will be...
As usual, Bob has a good point. Off hand, I don't know of any guys with catheters who had GG, whereas I think there were two guys here with very severe symptoms that had PAE. Still, as a general...
Karnal, Congratulations on finding a urologist open-minded enough to read Dr. Gat's paper. I didn't think such people existed. Both of the urologists I met curtly dismissed him and refused to even...
BPHOrC: As long as you're researching post-PSA options, maybe you should research something called "PCA3." I Googled it and it's a special test that looks for markers more specific to PC than the...
Bob: Thanks for your detailed updates and thoughtful posts. They are always thought-provoking. ### BPHorC: Now I'll toss in my two cents. I always thought the plan you alluded to made a lot of sense:...
rphguy: I've added you....
Here's the running success/failure list based on Nosheds' earlier post. I added MGL59 and Zoesman. I think it's a little early to declare MGL59's procedure a failure, but I added it anyway; we can...
=========== GG Update: Three Years and Nine Months =========== Time for another periodic update on my progress (or lack thereof, as Clap would whisper under his breath). GG procedure: May 30, 2011...
Oh, we are following MGL's reports with avidity, even with the lack of progress. I'm thankful that he's given us an honest report (almost amusing in its candor!). This board knows that not every GG...
Well for once I find myself agreeing wholeheartedly with Clap. Sorry it was a bust, MGL. But we do appreciate your report; it adds to the knowledge base of the forum. My experience might be...