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Posted 5/24/2014 2:04 PM (GMT 0)
Hi guys n gals!

a little about me and my current predicament...
im nearing 30 and have 2 bilateral club feet (with about 3-4 operations left). I have 3 herniated disks & several bulging disks, i had a TBI (traumatic brain injury) in 05 resulting in a severe hemorrhage near the center of my brain causing incredible migraines and lastly (worsening) anxiety and depression. (edit: also have degenerative disk disease and spinal bifida (i know i miss-spelled that one))

I've newly been obligated to sign a pain contract as many of you here are probably no stranger to. With this contract there is mentioning of more frequent urine analysis (of which i already agreed to >3 months prior to signing... although i had never been asked to submit any)

and the interesting part... in addition to the 6 daily norcos (2x 3times a day) i also frequently partake of a certain herb that many have mixed feelings about which brings me relief not found in pharmaceuticals.

my question is. would a detox program with continued rx use suffice? or is that likely to remove those toxins as well...?

Post Edited (RoyMoss) : 5/24/2014 11:05:32 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/24/2014 4:46 PM (GMT 0)
Welcome Roy.I'm sorry to hear about what you're dealing with,physically,but welcome to HW.

I was under a Pain Contract with a Doctor that required me to let him give me shots in my lower back every 90 days.

He stuck my sciatic nerve on January 9th of this year.

When I 1st started seeing him I didn't get any pain meds until my urine test came back,and then every other month.

I've gone back to my PCP who is willing to prescribe me 3 Norco 10mg a day.

I live in a state that may never catch up with the rest of the Country but I too use an herbal supplement.It allows me to get by on less pain medication.

Welcome and God Bless,

Rick

eta:I'm not sure I understand your question after re-reading your Post.

 

Posted 5/24/2014 5:04 PM (GMT 0)
ha! cryptic it is...

im just wondering if those quick flush drinks would work in this situation since they advise to avoid the particular toxin your wishing to rid your body of for 72 hours b4 hand.

Ie: no herbs for that time but continue with my norco regime to show pos for that and neg for the flowers.

I hear ya on your state being behind. funny thing is my doc totally agrees that cannabinoids really help make a difference.

good luck in the struggle m8, thanks for the warm welcome! i was honestly afraid of the response this post would bring lolol
Posted 5/24/2014 5:22 PM (GMT 0)
That's kind of what I was thinking you meant.

I honestly don't know the answer and we may get edited for discussing it too much.

Yeah,I've told my PCP.He's just 2 years older than me.

My last Pain Management didn't care either.They never mentioned it.

Your Pain Management Doctor may be stricter.

Rick

eta: Seriously,Welcome aboard.Alot of great people here.

It took me a little while to find a place where people weren't talking about abusing their meds.

It's a good place to vent,ask questions,or just joke around.

Post Edited (tidalmouse) : 5/24/2014 11:30:35 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/24/2014 5:24 PM (GMT 0)
The only way to get that out of your system is not to use it. If you have a tox screen and it shows up, you will be dismissed and may not be able to find another dr who will rx pain meds.
Posted 5/24/2014 5:28 PM (GMT 0)
Hello RM and Welcome to HW/CP! No judging here - we give support, suggestions and advice, if asked! We do tend to 'tell it like it is', but so offense is intended. :-) Be sure to take a look at the HW/CP rules/guidelines - nothing major, just some simple 'dos and don'ts' to help things run smoothly. There are certain things that can't be discussed on the forums.

Imho, flushing would probably 'flush all'. And depending on the type of testing involved, any attempt to 'change the results' would be found out. Not worth it - and could have long-term consequences. The pain contracts are taken very seriously by the doctors and need to be followed to a T. You are going to have to decide on one or the other!

Have a peaceful day.
Posted 5/24/2014 5:42 PM (GMT 0)
IMHO 99% of those flushes do not work. What I would do is talk to your doctor about your habit and ask for his advice.

I can not even begin to tell you what he will say, except being honest with him will go a long way.
Posted 5/24/2014 5:49 PM (GMT 0)
Welcome to HW. To answer your question first yes it will likely remove things you don't want removed.

We can discuss the use of MM but refrain from discussing it in any other form. We are however as Splash stated fairly open to any choices one opts to use in the treatment of their pain.

I would go to the professionals, those that offer those cleansing products and ask.
Posted 5/24/2014 5:59 PM (GMT 0)
Hello RoyMoss & welcome to the forum. Sorry to read what you are dealing with health wise.

As far as the flushes go I would be concerned about it flushing my Norcos too. If those do not show up in your system then you will be kicked to the curb. Pain mgt these days is a totally different environment & the drs have no problem dismissing a patient from their care, there is no 2nd chances out there with them either. Once a person gets booted then no one else wants to touch them.

Good luck.
Posted 5/26/2014 6:35 AM (GMT 0)
if it would please the powers that be, i will gladly remove this post for any violations... i like it here :P

i appreciate what everyone said (more than i can express). i know its obvious to avoid such things if being tested. however. i find it hard to swallow that if i lived in a different state the tables may be turned... heh. but such is life.

i didn't want to allude to trickery but i also find it difficult to cease something i've found solace in. i was completely honest with my doc from the beginning and plan to stay that way... i have quit but im still just afraid i haven't quit for long enough and in my panic i think went a little over board posting this here, like tidalmouse said its hard to find forums out there that don't glorify abuse.

i love you all. God speed.
Posted 5/26/2014 11:09 AM (GMT 0)
Another thing to consider is the flush you are using may flush out the meds your PM doc is prescibing or decrease the amount that should be in your system. You have to remember that the urines they do today are looking for a certian level of medication that should be in your system according to the amount that is prescribed. if that level is low your doctor may think you ar diverting the medications and discharge you. Good Luck RB
Posted 6/7/2014 1:25 PM (GMT 0)
My appointment went well... I was honest with him about my mm usage and he understood and ended up not screening me. He advised me to "at least be able to pass one when it comes time to come back for a refill". All your help is appreciated and I cannot express the gratitude I feel for your guys' tips and advise... and mainly for giving me a place to vent... im back to doing yoga every day and have made leaps and bounds with re-vamping my diet :)

Keep fighting the good fight everybody!

I also excel at repairing/optimizing pc's/mac's/smartphones... so if anyone needs any help or advice please message me i'd be glad to offer any assistance via the internet :D
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