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Posted 8/5/2007 12:40 AM (GMT 0)
From Meheroger,

I have recently been prescribed both Opana ER and Opana for immediate release. It's only been two days but I am happy with the relief I'm getting. I've been on Duragesic patches, Oxycodone, ( very large dose,) Methadone, and Morphine Sulfate. The results were never really satisfactory, always some untoward side effects. I was recently told by a pharmacist about "Opiod rotation. The idea is to change pain relieveing meds, especially opiates every 6 monthe to a year to not only counteract side effects, (my worst ones are bloating and chronic constipation.)My pain doc understood and immediately swiched mw to Opana. Lucky for me it has just been approved-I was the first person to get it filled a a local pharmacy! As for the constipation, my acupuncturist has given me an ancient chinese remedy called, "Seven Forests." It has already given me relief, (four easy bowel movements in two days!), and the bloating continues to subside. If you are experienced with opiod pain relief and want to try something that might be better, discuss the possibility of Opana with your doc. The only problem I had was with Medicais which held up fillinf it for an extra day until informed that I had already been on Fentanyl patches, (terrible rashes,) and morphine. I'm now taling 2 doses of Opna ER one every 12 hours and Opana IM for beakthroug. I'm happy so far with the results. Anyone else newlt taking it out there? Write back. I'd love to hear that someone else in benefitting as well! 

Posted 8/5/2007 12:43 AM (GMT 0)
Addiaiotnal from Meheroger-

The dose of oxycodone I was on-ready for this? was seven 80mg Oxycontin tabs three times a day. That Dr. is insane-I've been told by other docs who know him-Myrtle Beach is a very small community. Don't ever take more than seems reasonable to you, even if it's prescribed by a seemingly good doc.

Feel Better!

Posted 8/5/2007 3:50 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Great,

Thanks for sharing your successes in the pain wars. You make a great point on taking large volumes of pain medications. Most people have trouble getting enough but there are the few docs out there who go bonkers giving them out like M&Ms. I've never tried Opana but will keep it in the back of my mind just in case.

Chutz
Posted 8/5/2007 7:23 PM (GMT 0)
Dear Chutz,
Yeah, overprescibing is a terrible problem. By the way, it's my third day of Opana therapy-as my body gets used to the difference bewteen Morphine Sulfate and Opans, I appear to have greater pain relief and no noticeable side effects. Quite effective for my situation., which incudes a recently installed left hoip relacement, a right groin pull. (very painful,) and peripheral, neuropathy due to Aids drugs I took in 1994 and since then, speciafically, D4T and 3Tc. I'm currently on an Aids Medication Vacation, yes, my doctor sanctioned it, and after a Phenotyoping, I'll get a new regimen. Thanks, Chutz, for your feedback. Anyone else out there with similar diagnoses? LOve to hear.

Great relief/Meheroger
Posted 8/8/2007 5:19 PM (GMT 0)
Wow, I was just reading your comment about the OD. I just was released today from the hospital from a very close accidently OD. Between the dietician, PM, OBGYN and my reg dr all my medicines reacted adversly and I spent a very long weekend at the local hospital to try and get things under control. You are right about your statement, I always let my drs know what I was taking- and anytime I was on a new RX I would talk to the pharmacist. I am not blaming anyone with what happened, they all had the best intentions at heart for me. All I can say is thank God I felt something was off with my body and decided to go to the ER. Now what is Opana?
Posted 8/8/2007 6:18 PM (GMT 0)
Dearkttn251877
Opana is Oxymorphon-if you have a computer, just search on Opana or Opana ER and the info will pop up. My current problem with it is getting it titrated to a dose similar to the Morphine I replaced with the Opana. I was on 165 mg of morphine daily and now the Opana is 20mg twice a day and 10 mg three times a day as needed. It's simply not enough to control the neuropathy in my legs dfrom the HIV drugs I began taking in 1994. It seems to be a great new drug exce[t for the klutzes who already have begun to absue it. They screw up the chaNCES OF THOSE OF US WHO REALLY NEED IT BY MAKING ALL VALID DRUG/PAIN SEEKERS LOOK LIKE ADDICTS JUT LOOKING FOR ANOTHER HIGH. i'M SORRY, BUT i HAVE NO COMPASSION FOR JUMKIES. yOU SEE, i USED TO BE ONE.

Depending of why you need pain meds, kttn, Opana might be right for you-only your physician or physiatrist can really advise you.

If you care to why not share your condoitionmwith some of us?

Hops to hear from you,
Great Relief/Meheroger
Posted 8/9/2007 6:18 AM (GMT 0)
Dear Great Relief, I like to hear about the different medications from other people. No matter what you read online, it is never the same story from an actual individual. I refused morphine & oxycontin treatments for a very long time just because of the bad label it gets. And you are right, it is due to abuse. We all have our moments of weakness, when you feel bad or the day just seems gloomy. Too easy to look at the bottles. The only one I have ever had an issue with is percocets (which I have been put back on) and I just really need to watch myself. I am so happy that you have found something to work for you. I think the dr's are contemplating methadone the next round. (I am on duragesic and it is just not doing a thing) Seems that all the different morphine products I have tried really had little effect. (Kadian, Avinza, Duragesic) As far as my condition, I have a lot going on in my back. I have part of it down- L4 & L5 bulging discs also affecting both the right and left leg nerves. And, as I mentioned my trip to the hospital I was diagnosed with myalgia. I need to do some studying up on it- thats a new one. I was also recommended to start seeking treatment with a psychiatrist- which I plan on doing. I feel like I have been down a very lonely road- and when I look at my bedstand and see all these medications I am just over taking them. Especially now when I nearly OD'd. And I am so careful. It is nice to be here, so I can talk to people who do understand this. Thank you for sharing, I appreciate it. And I am so happy you found something to work for you.
Posted 8/9/2007 1:22 PM (GMT 0)
Dear kttn251977

Iwas on morphine, (Kadia 60mg 2X day and NSIR 15mg. 3X a day as needed for breakthrough) I stayed on it2 years and except for the bloating and constipation, worked well.I had been prescribed the Morphine because I had finally failed on Methadon after 2&1/2 years. I didn't like the methadon. Although it handled the pain pretty well, I must admit I missed the little amout of euphoria, (nothing to write home about) I got from all the opiates I'd been on. By the way, the duragesic patches, (at one time I was wearing eight at a time,) jiust gave me a bed rash. and the pain relief as almost absent,

I also have disc problems literally nothing left of L2 and 3. Scoleosis from bottom to top, (my doc said he wonders how I can even walk, after an epidural which was fine for about 2 days.) Be careful with the perc-all to easy to abuse, you know>

My doc just up'd my long term Opana er to 40mg twice a day and I think I;m now properly titrated-she also lowered the breakthrough dose back to 5mg three tims a day. So far, good-much betteractually. I slept through the night and even woke up pain free. I know this forum contains both negatives and positives about Opana- let me add my name to the ones who are applauding Opana. You know it was, before approval, only available in the injectable form and then almost always whils one was in hospital. So I'm very happy to get it to take at home. I encourage you, since you meet the criteria, to ask your doc about the possibility of trying Opana. Bear in mind they';ll start you at minimum dose and you'll probably have to ask to be titrated up to a dose that works for you. They seem to resond beeten when you know something about the risks, the idea of starting low and gradually increasing thwe dose. Be payitnt, cause when you get the right dose, you'll start smiling again. One caution- as with all opiates, constipation and bloating are an issue-but the pain relief seems worth the tradeoff, especially if you;ve got a good way to treat it. I take Mialax 2X a day, and when necessary, leet enemas, and even the stuff they give you before intestinal surgery-Sakine phosfate soda. It tastes terrib;e but really cleans you out. I also take a chinese herb combo called "Seven Forests." My Hiv doc is researching about any possible problem with the 7 Forests and my HIV drugs. Good news on that too! She did a gentyp on my possible resistance to HIV drus cause I;ve taked so many fifferent combos since I went on them in 1994, Seems I have NO RESISTANCE to any Ayn of th current meds available so she's put me on on one pill a day that contain three HIV drugs, I had been on 4 different pills 2x a day and finally said I con't do this anymore ! I too a two week vacation from them, caus they had finally gotten toxic to a point that I actually couldn't even put them in my mouth-I would gag and thought I would upchuck, Se my doc fina;; knew I was serious and now-hey one pill a day with little or no side effects I think I can handle that!

kttn, I encourage you to try the Opana if your doc will allow it. For now, for me, it's one more miracle. The criteria by the way, for opana is having had alread tried morohins, patches and methadon although that may be different from state to state. I'm in SC and the Medicaid rules here are very tough. I don't know what insurance you have but they are tough here in SC

Let me know how things progress-it's a joy corressponding with you.
Graet Relief Meheroger
Posted 8/9/2007 1:22 PM (GMT 0)
Dear kttn251977

Iwas on morphine, (Kadia 60mg 2X day and NSIR 15mg. 3X a day as needed for breakthrough) I stayed on it2 years and except for the bloating and constipation, worked well.I had been prescribed the Morphine because I had finally failed on Methadon after 2&1/2 years. I didn't like the methadon. Although it handled the pain pretty well, I must admit I missed the little amout of euphoria, (nothing to write home about) I got from all the opiates I'd been on. By the way, the duragesic patches, (at one time I was wearing eight at a time,) jiust gave me a bed rash. and the pain relief as almost absent,

I also have disc problems literally nothing left of L2 and 3. Scoleosis from bottom to top, (my doc said he wonders how I can even walk, after an epidural which was fine for about 2 days.) Be careful with the perc-all to easy to abuse, you know>

My doc just up'd my long term Opana er to 40mg twice a day and I think I;m now properly titrated-she also lowered the breakthrough dose back to 5mg three tims a day. So far, good-much betteractually. I slept through the night and even woke up pain free. I know this forum contains both negatives and positives about Opana- let me add my name to the ones who are applauding Opana. You know it was, before approval, only available in the injectable form and then almost always whils one was in hospital. So I'm very happy to get it to take at home. I encourage you, since you meet the criteria, to ask your doc about the possibility of trying Opana. Bear in mind they';ll start you at minimum dose and you'll probably have to ask to be titrated up to a dose that works for you. They seem to resond beeten when you know something about the risks, the idea of starting low and gradually increasing thwe dose. Be payitnt, cause when you get the right dose, you'll start smiling again. One caution- as with all opiates, constipation and bloating are an issue-but the pain relief seems worth the tradeoff, especially if you;ve got a good way to treat it. I take Mialax 2X a day, and when necessary, leet enemas, and even the stuff they give you before intestinal surgery-Sakine phosfate soda. It tastes terrib;e but really cleans you out. I also take a chinese herb combo called "Seven Forests." My Hiv doc is researching about any possible problem with the 7 Forests and my HIV drugs. Good news on that too! She did a gentyp on my possible resistance to HIV drus cause I;ve taked so many fifferent combos since I went on them in 1994, Seems I have NO RESISTANCE to any Ayn of th current meds available so she's put me on on one pill a day that contain three HIV drugs, I had been on 4 different pills 2x a day and finally said I con't do this anymore ! I too a two week vacation from them, caus they had finally gotten toxic to a point that I actually couldn't even put them in my mouth-I would gag and thought I would upchuck, Se my doc fina;; knew I was serious and now-hey one pill a day with little or no side effects I think I can handle that!

kttn, I encourage you to try the Opana if your doc will allow it. For now, for me, it's one more miracle. The criteria by the way, for opana is having had alread tried morohins, patches and methadon although that may be different from state to state. I'm in SC and the Medicaid rules here are very tough. I don't know what insurance you have but they are tough here in SC

Let me know how things progress-it's a joy corressponding with you.
Graet Relief Meheroger
Posted 8/9/2007 1:22 PM (GMT 0)
Dear kttn251977

Iwas on morphine, (Kadia 60mg 2X day and NSIR 15mg. 3X a day as needed for breakthrough) I stayed on it2 years and except for the bloating and constipation, worked well.I had been prescribed the Morphine because I had finally failed on Methadon after 2&1/2 years. I didn't like the methadon. Although it handled the pain pretty well, I must admit I missed the little amout of euphoria, (nothing to write home about) I got from all the opiates I'd been on. By the way, the duragesic patches, (at one time I was wearing eight at a time,) jiust gave me a bed rash. and the pain relief as almost absent,

I also have disc problems literally nothing left of L2 and 3. Scoleosis from bottom to top, (my doc said he wonders how I can even walk, after an epidural which was fine for about 2 days.) Be careful with the perc-all to easy to abuse, you know>

My doc just up'd my long term Opana er to 40mg twice a day and I think I;m now properly titrated-she also lowered the breakthrough dose back to 5mg three tims a day. So far, good-much betteractually. I slept through the night and even woke up pain free. I know this forum contains both negatives and positives about Opana- let me add my name to the ones who are applauding Opana. You know it was, before approval, only available in the injectable form and then almost always whils one was in hospital. So I'm very happy to get it to take at home. I encourage you, since you meet the criteria, to ask your doc about the possibility of trying Opana. Bear in mind they';ll start you at minimum dose and you'll probably have to ask to be titrated up to a dose that works for you. They seem to resond beeten when you know something about the risks, the idea of starting low and gradually increasing thwe dose. Be payitnt, cause when you get the right dose, you'll start smiling again. One caution- as with all opiates, constipation and bloating are an issue-but the pain relief seems worth the tradeoff, especially if you;ve got a good way to treat it. I take Mialax 2X a day, and when necessary, leet enemas, and even the stuff they give you before intestinal surgery-Sakine phosfate soda. It tastes terrib;e but really cleans you out. I also take a chinese herb combo called "Seven Forests." My Hiv doc is researching about any possible problem with the 7 Forests and my HIV drugs. Good news on that too! She did a gentyp on my possible resistance to HIV drus cause I;ve taked so many fifferent combos since I went on them in 1994, Seems I have NO RESISTANCE to any Ayn of th current meds available so she's put me on on one pill a day that contain three HIV drugs, I had been on 4 different pills 2x a day and finally said I con't do this anymore ! I too a two week vacation from them, caus they had finally gotten toxic to a point that I actually couldn't even put them in my mouth-I would gag and thought I would upchuck, Se my doc fina;; knew I was serious and now-hey one pill a day with little or no side effects I think I can handle that!

kttn, I encourage you to try the Opana if your doc will allow it. For now, for me, it's one more miracle. The criteria by the way, for opana is having had alread tried morohins, patches and methadon although that may be different from state to state. I'm in SC and the Medicaid rules here are very tough. I don't know what insurance you have but they are tough here in SC

Let me know how things progress-it's a joy corressponding with you.
Graet Relief Meheroger
Posted 8/10/2007 9:15 AM (GMT 0)
Wow, I can't imagine what you are going through. I will keep in mind Opana if these new drugs don't pan out. Due to my expensive hotel stay this week, he switched my meds around some. He now has me on Norco, Soma, Endocet, Phenigran and added Amitrypiline, MS Contin and Zoloft. The last three are pretty new to me. I'm glad to be done with the patch though, it also gave me a rash and made me itch and was just downright unpleasant. I wore it under my ribcage once because the rep online recommended there- couldn't stand it. Switched to my upper arm and just didn't like the questions everyone kept asking me. While I was staying in the hospital one of the nurses told me about a guy the week before who was unconious in the bathroom from LICKING his patch. Un-real! I couldn't even stand the smell of it when it came out of the wrapper. I don't know how you managed to wear that many patches, you must be really going through it. As for the wonderful side-effect of morphine, I found that out the hard way the first time I tried to go to the potty, I thought I was going to have a heart attack. I am now on colace for it, works well- just need to take quite a few. I also watch my diet to make sure I have a lot of fiber. And, I am watching myself with the percocets, I wonder why it is they can be so addictive? I have heard from more than one person they had the same side effect! I am glad to be able to talk to you. I am still in the phase where they are guinea pigging the drugs in me. I am ok with it, everyone is different & I understand. What medical conditions do you have and have you ever tried any surgeries? Shannon.
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