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Posted 11/11/2011 7:13 PM (GMT 0)
I just had my 3rd bowel movement for the day.  Nothing abnormal other than there was blood in the bowl.  It was bright red, so I am aware that it can be from internal hemmoroids.  But....I also passed clots of blood.  I am having some cramps, but nothing horrendous.

Should I be concerned with the clots passing?  Any help appreciated.  Thats what I get for telling my husband the other night "Knock on wood, but my guts have been feeling better lately".  Of course the next morning I woke up feeling yucky and this morning was so so too.

Hugs!

Posted 11/11/2011 7:25 PM (GMT 0)
I got nothing except to say, you silly girl, never mess with the Crohn's Gods, but I've told you this before!

I hope everything is OK. (((((HUGS)))))
Posted 11/11/2011 7:26 PM (GMT 0)
I've passed clots before. It freaked me out, and combined with the amount of blood I kept passing and the pain, I went to the ER. They checked my blood level and it was fine. I guess it's 'normal' with Crohn's, but keep an eye on it. They told me in the ER that they've had to do transfusions on people due to bleeding just from hemmies.
Posted 11/11/2011 7:33 PM (GMT 0)
Is it normal for you to experience bleeding during a flare or is this new? Are you bleeding with every movement or is it just the 3rd one? If the bleeding continues, you'll need to get to a Doc soon, you don't want to end up anemic. Use your experience to determine how bad things are and what you need to do to take care of yourself. It wouldn't hurt to increase your fluids to keep dehydration at bay and also  keep in mind that in the bowl, it can look like there's much more blood then there really is.

I've been fighting for over 30 years to get answers about what goes on with my gut, but have been lucky in that I've only bled twice. The first time I was out shopping and from out of the blue I had to go NOW. I ran to the rest room and had a bowl full of bright red blood and clots. I was terrified but since it was the weekend, I would have had to spend hours waiting in the ER and I just wasn't sick enough for that. I had finally found a Doc who believed that I really had a problem - Crohn's, and was treating me with Entocort and Pentasa, so I called him Monday. He wasn't concerned about it because I had no additional bleeding and no major increase in abd pain or D. Two weeks later the same thing happened. I became convinced that the bleeding was caused by Pentasa, which has aspirin-like properties and I stopped taking it. Eventually I learned more about CD and realized that the bleeding was the disease and not the meds. I went back on Pentasa.

That was over 11 years ago and luckily, I haven't had that kind of bleeding since. I'm sure that's part of the reason getting a Dx was so hard for me.

Posted 11/11/2011 8:34 PM (GMT 0)
Blood is not a normal occurence with me.  With this last hospitalization I did see blood but I know that was from internal hemmoroids.  Since this incident I have not gone anymore and it was only with the 3rd BM.  But...since this happened I find I am having more cramping.  Nothing horrendous, but a little worrisome.  I guess I will keep watching it to see if it happens again.  If it does, I will email my GI and see what he thinks.  I did just have some IRON test ran and they were on the low side.

Oh.....another thing, I am on Coumadin (blood thinner) and wonder if that could have contributed????  Thanks all!

Posted 11/11/2011 9:10 PM (GMT 0)
I get blood quite often and when i wipe I get the clots but I am unsure if I have passed any. These are from internal hemmies more often than not with me. I would def keep an eye on it esp being on Coumadin and if concerned just call your GI put your mind at ease over the weekend.
Posted 11/11/2011 10:25 PM (GMT 0)
I would bet on the coumadin as the culprit. When my husband was on it last fall, he would just get a nick from shaving and could bleed for hours. So if you have some hemmies and they bleed at all, they would bleed a lot while on blood thinners because you have no clotting factors. I would definitely keep an eye on it and call the doctor ASAP if it continues.
Posted 11/11/2011 11:16 PM (GMT 0)
I agree with Zanne, the coumadin is making you bleed more easily, but none the less it's not one of
your usual symptoms, I would call the doctor.

Take care!!
Posted 11/12/2011 12:46 AM (GMT 0)
Definitely agree with Zanne and dunny about the coumadin. Obviously, if it continues, you'll have to call the doc. Hope it stops quickly, though.
I also have had a little more bleeding lately, but sure its roids. My GI knows about it, isn't too concerned.
Posted 11/12/2011 4:42 PM (GMT 0)
I'd call the doc. I hope you feel better soon Nanners!! I was wondering about the coumadin as well. Talk to your doc before you change anything though! When my colitis would act up, I would get blood and once or twice passed a big clot. It was during the worst flare I ever had. Big hug for you to feel better......
Posted 11/12/2011 4:58 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks all!!  Seems to have been just the once and I am going to put it down to too much stress this past week.  Hopefully, things are improving and my blood issues will go away too.  I will call the doc if it should happen again.  Hugs!
Posted 11/13/2011 1:44 AM (GMT 0)
Nanners,

Glad you had only the one episode and yes it may have been from internal hemmoroids. If it happens again please send the email to your GI Doctor.

Thinking of you.

Kindly,

Kitt

 

Posted 11/13/2011 6:09 PM (GMT 0)
Except the coumadin being a blood thinner wouldn't likely equal clotting, isn't the point of blood thinners to keep blood from clotting? Also, blood thinners won't necessarily make you bleed randomly, but if you cut yourself then it would take longer for it to stop bleeding compared to if you weren't on blood thinners.

It's very likely that your CD could be affecting your colon, or possibly internal hemmies, but any changes should be reported to your doc.
Posted 11/14/2011 3:11 PM (GMT 0)

Coumadin is an anticoagulant. It increases the time it takes for your blood to clot. Coumadin can cause you to be more prone to bleeding, so it is very important for you to have just the right amount of Coumadin in your body.

To make sure your Coumadin level is in the therapeutic range a blood test call INR is done on a regular basis.

Most people have a normal INR of around 1.0. It's really not necessary to remember exactly what the letters stand for--I think it's International Normalized Ratio, so that wherever you go in the world, the numbers will be the same, so that everyone is on the same page when the numbers come in.

Usually while on Coumadin therapy, the INR should be between 2 and 3. Occasionally the range should be 2.5 to 3.5. Many things can affect the INR; antibiotics for one, and an increase or decrease in consumption of green, leafy vegetables. Patient's on Coumadin need very good education, stressing the importance of their periodic INR draws. Too high of an INR can lead to bleeding, etc..., and too low of an INR can results in clots.

Generally  a dose to maintain an international normalised ratio (INR) of 2-3 is the goal for people like Nanners who have been dx with Atrial Fib.  However I am not a Dr. and I do not know what Nanner's range is suppose to be.

Just my own info on the use of Coumadin FYI.  :-)

Kindly,

Kitt

Posted 11/14/2011 4:57 PM (GMT 0)
You are absolutely correct Stkitt on your description. And yes they try to keep me between 2 and 3.

Want to hear a typical thing with us and doctors that happened to me? Up until about last Thursday or Friday my heart has stayed in Atrial fibrillation no matter the meds I am taking for it. Well wouldn't you know I had a echocardiogram done today, and it showed yes I am back in sinus rythym and I am to see the cardiologist this coming Thursday. I have been all worried becuz the Afib wouldn't stop. All it took was an upcoming appt with the cardiologist and wouldn't you know it goes back to normal (Not that I am not grateful). Haha....Never fails does it??? LOL
Posted 11/14/2011 10:46 PM (GMT 0)
Nanners,

I am glad your back in a normal sinus rhythm and yes, it never fails.  I see my GI Doc in December and I would bet I do not have anything to tell her re my GERD other then I still take my med.  smhair

Nice to know you are being checked out by the cardiologist anyhow.

Love and hugs,

Kitt

Posted 11/15/2011 5:58 PM (GMT 0)
Our version of "white coat syndrome", right, Nanners??? Never fails either.

I forgot or you didn't say: what A fib meds are you on? Besides the coumadin, that is. Interesting that there are people who can stop their A fib just by coughing.
Posted 11/15/2011 6:46 PM (GMT 0)
C2 right now the family doc has me on Atenolol.  Not sure if the cardiologist will prescribe something different.  But just glad that I am not having that pounding irregular heartrate anymore.

 

Posted 11/16/2011 4:21 AM (GMT 0)
I'm on a related beta blocker, Toprol (metoprolol). Yeah, that pounding, erratic heartbeat can be more than a little disconcerting.

IF I remember right, a beta blocker for A fib is used to slow the heart rate. Since the irregular heart beat in A fib allows blood to pool in the heart the coumadin is to reduce the risk of that blood clotting.
Posted 11/16/2011 7:37 AM (GMT 0)
I have recently had blood through my bowel movements when I have my period. My period, as I am sure alot of women out there is irregular. I would like to discuss with other women how they're cycles are.
Posted 11/16/2011 7:42 AM (GMT 0)
Lately I have to sit on the toilet and almost hum, sing, ....to get through the pain. I always thinkk about what I have eaten but even a book doesn't take the pain away. I take Humira but I am not getting rid of the inflammation. The pain. I am guessing that the pain will always be there. Hence, no cure...
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