caveman diet?

hey everyone, i was wondering if the caveman diet(paleo) increases the risk of a bowle obstruction? i was on scd diet for awhile and i had a bowle obstruction, im just afraid if i try this diet i'll end up in the hospital. any advice would be great about this diet, thx :)

Yeah, imagine criticising a 40-year-old diet based on dubious science. The temerity of it.

In seriousness, if you have strictures or narrowings of the small bowel, I'd avoid most veggies, fruits, nuts, red meat, etc. That basically includes most of the Paleo diet. If you're unsure about a certain food, try only a small amount of it at first. If that goes okay, then you can probably include it in your diet. But go easy with fibrous, gristly or chewy foods.

Finally, diet is individual for everyone. What one person can't tolerate, another person does fine with. And many people with Crohn's have little choice but to eat blandly - if they want to be able to function, that is.

Yeah, it's stating the obvious, I know >.>

If you try the Paleo diet, good luck. Hope it helps and that you don't get any more obstructions.

Hey Usher!

You are absolutely right about those who do NOT have a serious narrowing in the guts. Keep on.

But, if it's the first time you're reading "that fiber results in obstruction", also keep on reading. It's just mechanics... fibers that are not soluble may cause pain and, at most, abstruction. I have some stitches to atest it!

Warning: Having a bad day rant follows...

Oh Usher...you've been on the diet for 4 whole months? OMG, I had no idea it had worked for you for 4 months... Call CNN, we've found a cure!

Sarcasm is just another service I offer.

I'm tired of arguing your ridiculous claims with actual responses as you continue to say things that demonstrate a complete lack of understanding. Mild disease MAY be controlled by diet- or, and this is me just spitballing here- it's just so darned mild that it would have stayed in remission without any changes or meds at all. There are lots of people who will tell you that they went a long time without meds between flares. It's the luck of the draw. Be happy that so far you've been lucky.

What you don't seem to get is that telling noobs to the disease that they should avoid meds for diet every time could possibly hurt someone because they listened to you and got worse. It's true that this is not a website full of treating physicians and people should not blindly follow anyone's advice, but this disease has a way of making people desperate. Desperate enough to try anything. I was desperate once and gave LDN a try....bad bad bad. But it seems to work for some.

Since this disease is so individualized, sometimes even DOCTORS have no idea how to approach it or what to do next. Are you a GI Doc and just never told us? I'm doubting it if you just now are hearing that fiber can cause obstruction. Fiber may "strengthen" the intestines in a normal bowel, but people with IBD do not have normal bowels and things don't work the same. In reality, if someone listens to you they could be setting themselves up for failure in the worst way- a bad flare. I get that my advice to others could be dangerous. Many people here get that what they say could be detrimental to someone and thus are very careful with their recommendations, often saying them along with something like "this worked for me but you should talk to your doc" but you don't seem to. And you're condescending on top of it. There is so much experience and wisdom and knowledge on this board that you consistently poo poo because your four months of diet success are clearly better than collective knowledge. It's infuriating. I come here for support, not to be told that the severity of my disease is actually my own fault because I don't partake in coffee enemas.

usher i dont think u understand that one treatment will only work for soo long. i was looking for advice for something not an argument. i did scd longer than you and it worked pretty good till i landed in the hospital on the verge of surgery. i tried alot of different diets and meds and they all have one thing in common they can control the disease to only a certain degree. there is no cure yet. i dont get why "diet" is such a touchy subject. theres only so many options and the chances are your gonna try all of them eventually. so try and show some repect for others choices.

I've done a paleo (ish) type diet for several years now. I've had to tweak it for my needs and body. I focus my diet on meats and veggies, some fruit. I am very particular about the quality of meats, produce and oils that I consume.

Most importantly is the cutting out of processed foods. And most, most important... it's trained me to look at the food I'm buying and the ingredients that are in what I'm buying. Having a clean diet also helps me pin point what works and what doesn't work for me. ME.

For example, raw broccoli kills me, so I steam it, always. Onions and bananas are a no no to me. I've been gluten free and added it back in. I do not have an intolerance to gluten but white and wheat flour bother me. I only eat sprouted grains. I eat potatoes, but not often.

Anyone, even with a healthy gut, benefits from building a healthy diet that works for their body and needs. The key is dong the research and being willing to try different things and to take notes and journal it so you can find what works best for you.

I want to have a healthy diet and then adapt that diet to work for me, my activity level and the fact that I also have active Crohn's disease. I do not take medications for my Crohn's for other health reasons that in my mind and clinical history, tip the scale of risk vs benefit.... for me.

I think people who are able to manage their Crohns with diet alone are extremely fortunate, even if they have had to work hard.

Those who can eat fruit,vegetables (steamed or otherwise), and other fibrous foods, do not have aggressive, obstructive Crohns.

It seems pretty clear that there are many variations of the disease. Those who can manage without meds are not being kind to others, with different disease phenotype, when they try to claim it's simply a disease about food intake.

It is the luck of the draw sometimes as to what pattern the disease takes and as many know, what works for one person can be damaging for another.

(Usher, your post is vile.)

thanks for the advice everyone it means alot :)