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Posted 9/4/2011 12:58 AM (GMT 0)
Ok so I have had depression since February. I have been going to councelloring but I don't feel like it is getting me anywhere. My councellor seems to be forgetful, she consistantly advizes me to talk to my parents about how I'm feeling but I can't because I can't tell them the reasons why and she knows this. So I was really wondering if anyone had any natural remedies which help them or tips and techniques. At the moment I am not on any medication as I believe that medication is not always the best cure, so I don't take paracetamol, or ibuprofen, and I only take anti-biotics if things are seriously bad. At a push in the past few years my only medication has been vaccines such as cervical cancer injections, and tetnus, and my microgynon 30. So yeah any tips or techniques greatly appreciated. (Please excuse any mis-spellings I'm on a mobile)

Thank you

Posted 9/4/2011 1:22 AM (GMT 0)
I think meditation would be your best bet. It is easy and you can do it yourself. It calms the mind and the body. There are herbals and 5htp. But if you want to go totally natural do meditation. Yoga helps and so does walking. I prefer walking myself.

Hugs, Karen
Posted 9/4/2011 2:17 AM (GMT 0)
I agree with Karen. Learn about meditation and relaxation techniques. Lots of sources available online as well as at the library. Also exercise can help lift one's spirits as it help release natural chemicals that can be calming and uplifting at the same time.

Finally a good, healthy, basic diet with lots of vegetables, fruits, low in fats and high in fiber can help you simply feel better all over.
Posted 9/4/2011 4:31 AM (GMT 0)
yep to walking, calms the mind. amd meditation. with healing compassion, jamie
Posted 9/4/2011 8:36 PM (GMT 0)
It is against my beliefs to take medication, in the past things have only increased my problems. Last time I took depression medication I ended up. As for telling my parents, my best friend died infront of me but I can't tell them because they did not want us to be friends as she was on drugs. So then I would also have to tell them I was with her and her friends who were also on drugs. And then if they asked me about other parts of my life I would have to admit I was in a highly abusive relationship. Things between my parents and I are bad enough without adding to these, we barely speak. If they found out I had disobeyed them and been round drugs then they probably wouldn't become any closer to me.

I am sorry, I had to edit you post as we aren't allowed to talk about suicide on here.  I hope that you find what works for you so that you will feel better.  Hugs, Karen

Post Edited By Moderator (getting by) : 9/4/2011 4:20:31 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/4/2011 8:50 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, DogGirl,

I think you're right about having some things private. As long as you are comfortable with what you think and feel and your counselor advises you that you are healthy with your thoughts, it's an okay situation to me, but I'm just one thinker on the forum.

As for natural remedies, one must include good foods as natural remedies, so changing your diet can be a big, big help if you are interested in doing so. I think there may have been some misunderstanding in the meaning of "natural" in the post here.

All of us know by this time, I hope, that not all the information provided by anyone may be 100% accurate, but that each of us speaks about his/her own experiences in most matters, and we know to a strong degree what works for us and may have a beneficial effect on others trying to search for answers.  (Between you and me, I like the advice given by most people who have experience with these things; they know what works for them.)  All the intentions of most posters are good, I think we

may assume with some certainty.

Keep posting as you wish, Dog Girl, and

take care.

I.G.

Post Edited (It's Genetic) : 9/4/2011 4:05:09 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/5/2011 1:08 AM (GMT 0)
Hello, thanks to everyone who commented, I went food shopping today more fruits, more veg, less choccies :( have spent the day going on walks with my partner just releasing my emotions, seems to have worked quite well. I also did some research into techniques helping you cope with depression, hopefully these work. I'll include them here as they're relevant to this post and may help others
1. Write a list of the things which trigger your depression and then try to write something positive that came from them. I thought this might be hard but it turns out every cloud does have a silver lining. It made me realise that bad things happen but good ones do too!
2. If you need to talk to someone about what's upsetting you, make a little box and put one discussion topic on a piece of paper, place paper in box, and repeat until all your topics are in the box, then if you only get a short time each day to talk about it with someone, you can pick one thing to focus on and really overcome, instead of rushing through them all. I have found this is also good for a few home truths, I rely on my partner heavily and he used this method to show me how hard it is for him to deal with this sometimes.
3. A deal my partner and I have made, whenever one of us becomes overwhelmed, the other one says something to help you refocus your attention on something positive. For example he reminds me why he loves me when I feel unloved.
4. Time for yourself. It sounds stupid but having time to cry or scream if you're angry is suppose to help you. I suppose it prevents you from bottling things up and it helps you see how upset you are. And there's nothing like a bit of pampering to cheer a girl up!

So armed with a new diet, a walking plan, some breathing techniques and the above list I hope I can overcome this without medication. Thanks again to everyone for there help and support. And Karen I'm really sorry about the above post I wasn't aware of the rule but it won't happen again I promise :)

Thank you and goodnight :)
Posted 9/5/2011 1:21 AM (GMT 0)
I cannot finish the post 'i ended up' due to it being against forum rules. I ran away from home and almost never made it back. (Sorry if this isn't ok Karen im trying to explain how the meds pushed me without breaking any rules)
Posted 9/5/2011 2:33 AM (GMT 0)
Enough said DogGirl. We all know that sometimes anti-depressants can kind of work backwards in some people.

Sounds like you have a plan. Now just keep on keeping on.

Never forget one thing. No matter how bad a day may seem, the next sunrise is always a victory.
Posted 9/5/2011 3:49 AM (GMT 0)
I'm glad you kept posting, Dog Girl, and glad you saw to it that you
provided your fresh vegetables and other foods for diet improvement.
You're on the right track now, and I hope things go well for you. Jim
is right; you have a plan, try to go ahead and implement it. Ignore
the stuff that is just lack of knowledge.

According to my psychiatrist, diet does help with depression, and it was she who informed me that all of us who have depression or have had it should be more careful about eating fresh vegetables, salads, and lighten up on meats. We don't recommmend changes in lifestyles
that are not based on medical knowledge, so you are safe with your
efforts.

You might wish to read ruthwhalen.com/caffeine to get a view of what her experierence was as a medical laboratory technician before she
retired (and continues to write now), particularly about people who are sensitive to caffeine or have an allergy to it.

You know what to ignore and what to listen to carefully.

I will tell you the advice I was given by my psychiatrist years ago in regard to things we need to do to help in relieving the illness:

1.   Don't drink alcohol; it makes depression worse.

2.   Don't drink or eat anything that has caffeine in it--that would include  coffee, tea(which has theophylline, a close cousin to caffeine) or anything containing chocolate-- or any other product with caffeine in it.  It makes depression worse.  Drink water, please.  (Recommended by a nephrologist.) 

You might not be able to remove all prescribed medications from your

schedule, but you can certainly reduce the level of medications you need to take by following a healthy diet and by using purified water.

Often, people are asked  to refer to the prescribed medication side effects listed with the prescription website.  Unfortunately, some of the more serious and rare side effects may not be included in the website.  So it helps to listen to what those on the forum have experienced with drugs prescribed by specialists if the doctors do not tell you what they are.

3.  Take your meds.

4.  Get your rest.

Thanks for your response to our suggestions. Hope you begin to feel
better very soon.  And Thanks, Jim, for your support.

Many people have an insight into what is really the best path for them to follow;  that's a helpful guide to think about if you are one who has an innate feeling about what is best for you to consider doing.

Take care.

It's Genetic

Post Edited (It's Genetic) : 9/4/2011 10:16:35 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/5/2011 7:25 AM (GMT 0)
DogGirl - I like the list about the triggers, then a positive. Since I get stuck in the negative. I started today writing my thoughhts down, which was also a good suggestion but this will help me look for good.

Justaboy - I aso like the suggestion about writing down what helps, I think this will help move me towards recovery, especially when medicine and counselling are put in place.
Posted 9/5/2011 11:20 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you to everyone that's been commenting to show me support. Thanks to Jim for understanding, to Its Genetic for giving me some valuable tips and research, thanks to justaboy for the idea of documenting anything that goes well and thanks to stillme for showing how the methods may help others. I really appreciate the support.
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