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Posted 1/16/2008 1:57 PM (GMT 0)
Hi

Just popping by, been busy today toilet training Sean he's hard work, at the minute we have ran out of pants! lol, plus my toilet is upstairs so you can imagine!!

I'll try and post later, hope you both have a good day, the sun is out here today, yeah!!

Gillian x
Posted 1/16/2008 8:01 PM (GMT 0)
I thought that I responded to this post, but I see nothing. I will write more later, I must have forgotten to submit.

Just want to say hello to both of you and let you know that i am thinking about the two of you.

hugs,

Karen
Posted 1/17/2008 12:10 AM (GMT 0)

I am back again.

I hope that you both had a wonderful day/night.  It was okay here, I slept till noon AGAIN.  I went to bed at midnight, but still slept until noon.  That is 12 hours.  I don't know why I always feel the need to sleep so much.  I go to bed looking forward to the next day so I know that I am not depressed.  When I had fibro and depression really bad, I didn't look forward to getting up at all.  Maybe I should start setting the alarm again.  Sometimes I wake up at four or five in the morning and get up.  I guess I am just not predictable when it comes to stuff like that.  Oh well, that is me for ya.

I didn't do much of anything today except take a shower.  It is starting to get cold here.  We are suppose to be in single digits by tomorrow and stay cold for a few days.  I don't look forward to that, but it is better than damp and rain.

I wish I had something interesting to talk about, but I am at a loss in that perspective today.  My mind is kind of blah.   Can't seem to think of anything interesting to talk about.  I lost my first post, I think I forgot to submit it.  I wish I could remember what it was about.  But I have fibrofog, or add or something.

I wish for you both a wonderful day/night.  And I hope you are both feeling good.

Take care, I look forward to hearing from you guys.

hugs,

Karen

Posted 1/17/2008 3:39 AM (GMT 0)
Hey you two!

Just a minute while I finish trying to imagine potty training a wee tot with the bathroom all the way up a flight of stairs - hmm...I think Gill deserves a moment of awe and admiration. "oo awe!!!" Seriously though, that must be challenging - but it will all be worth it in the end. yeah Sometimes it just helps to think about the destination and the goal to remind ourselves that we are moving forward even on days when it feels like we are going backward. Or something like that.

Karen, sorry to hear you are feeling so foggy. But I'm glad you popped by anyway to say hello!!

Re. sleeping in, maybe your body is just catching up on sleep? I wonder if the rhodiola might really help you. For me it increases energy, improves mood, gives me greater tolerance for noise and excessive stimuli and did something else I can't remember what it was. But it also supports the adrenal glands which if stressed or depleted can also cause the body to feel unduly fatigued. I hope it will be a good help for you. Do you think the grey weather might have something to do with sleepiness? But maybe, like you said, you coudl set your alarm to get up earlier and see if it helps yoru body get a new routine.

Today I did more laundry. It is almost done being redeemed from teh land of moldy houses. I just have been rewashing everything to get it clean and throwing a few things out too that just stunk too much!!

I feel like it's been such a busy day even though I look around and dont' feel like I did much. lol. We got a good snow fall 2 days ago and hubby and I went for a drive last night. It was soooo nice to see the snow at night and drive on teh quiet streets when no one else was out. Now it really felt like we were 'home.' We used to do lots of late night winter drives together admiring the scenery. Well, we enjoy that in any season actually. We like to be together that way and just chat.

Guess I should go check the laundry. Karen, tell us a story. You are always giving me inspiration for something to write about - so tell me now, did your cognitive behavior book come in yet?

that's all for now, love, Embers
Posted 1/17/2008 12:25 PM (GMT 0)

Hey you guys,

I got up at 6:00 this morning, now isn't that going from one extreme to another.  But this way I wont feel like I missed out on half the day.

Boy Embers, it seems like our fibro forum is getting a little tense.  I felt so bad because I was the one who ask ladygray about that product.  And I don't think she was trying to sell anything.  She was just trying to answer our questions.  I wish Jeannie wouldn't have gotten so defensive.  I think it scared her away and that isn't what the forum is suppose to be about.  I think that Jeannie should have not given her such a hard time.  I wonder if the stress she is under is causing this.  This is not the first time that she has flown 'off the handle' so to speak.  I think she needs to apologize, but that is just my opinion. 

I like getting up early, this is my quiet time (when I am up).LOL.  But when I sleep so late I feel I missed half of the day.  I have actually been going to bed and looking forward to getting up the next day, so I think my depression is subsiding some.

Gillian, I didn't think about the potty training thing.  That is a time when you have to be right on top of things, isn't it?  I hope that you are having good results.  Did you find out for sure when your operation will be?  I can't remember, I should go back and read posts again.  My memory problem goes along with the fibromyalgia, it is called 'fibro fog', and I get it a lot.  I can be intorduced to a person and forget their name within a minute.  That is so embarrassing.

I wish I could think about a story for you, did I ever tell you that I had a family of foxes that moved in on me?  Our neighbor had chased them out of their dens.  We had an old shack next to out trailer that we lived in at the time.  They moved under the shack.  There was a mom, dad, and four kits.  I would video tape them.  It was cute, I was leaving scraps out for them to eat.  In the mornings the kits would come out and stretch and yawn.  Then they would find the food I left them and eat it.  One day one of my dogs (she was a wild dog that moved in (without invitation) with me.  It took my husband ,at that time, two years before he could ever pet her.  (I named her 'She') Any way She snuck out the door and chased all these foxes down, I don't know if she killed any or not, but she came in and had a hole bitten through her chin.  I had to take her to the vet and they pulled three of her teeth due to infection.  I was so sad because the foxes never did come back.  But I did get some good tapes of them little ones coming out every morning while they were there.

I once saw a cougar in the woods when I was walking my dogs.  He/she wasn't an adult, thank God, when my dogs saw it they ran after it.  I was worried, but it took one huge leap and it was gone.  They came back to me shortly after.  I called the department of natural resourses.  They couldn't see any tracks, but told me that somebody probably dropped it off at an interstate rest area.  Not long after that there were other sitings of larger cougars.  It was an amazing sight.

I guess I will close here.  Should start to get something done around here.  I hope you ladies have a good day/night.  I look forward to hearing from both of you again soon.

Hugs,

Karen 

Posted 1/17/2008 7:05 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Karen, and Gill,

Ahhhh, what a lovely story about the foxes Karen!! I loved reading - it was like when I read a good book and I forget everythign around me and then when I'm done reading I realize I am still on my couch in my usual life - but feeling I had been 'right there.' THanks for sharing!!! :0)

That is wild that you saw a cougar. Wow. Just like LIttle House on the Prairie Days! Have you read those books by Laura Ingalls Wilder? I didn't read them as a kid, but decided to last winter. That was the beginning of me learning how to relax again. I really enjoy them. Often wishing I lived back then when things were so much simpler and kinder and the world was so less toxic and that sort of thing.

Yes, the fibro. forum. I felt badly that you felt badly - as I saw you apologized to Ladygray. It really wasn't your fault in the least, but it was so kind of you to apologize and let her know she had a friend on the forum.

The fibro. forum has had a different feel since you and Marlee and crew started posting. It's become really upbeat and light. It had always had a postive slant beforehand in terms of the mods. encouraging people that there was still life after fibro. etc. But I actually stopped posting there because I am pro - natural and I never got any replies when I wrote about natural things that had helped me and at the same time I felt how opposed J. was to natural solutions - besides those that she is using. So the issue with Ladygray is nothing new - it's just that Lady had the guts to say a lot of things that stirred the nest. I think J. feels she is defending what is true and right in her mind, but if people are being barked at, then yes, something really does need to change, because everyone should feel welcome and respected and not put in their place. It cannot be an easy job to be a mod! It really takes a whole community working together to make a forum a good place, so I think it was great that you reached out to LadyGray - I tried to as well - but without an apology or softer reply from the person she felt pushed out by I am not sure she will keep posting. It would be ashame if she didn't though.

At any rate, none of this was your fault, or mine for that matter - as I also asked to learn more. I'm glad she shared more and I hope that product will help more people.. And I agree, Ladygray wasnt' trying to sell anything. But I guess because she stated her views very directly, it felt threatening to the moderator which is why she was accused of trying to sell something. Doesn't make it right, but maybe helps to understand why the response to LG was so aggressive instead of welcoming. Perhaps some of the other mods. will step in and reach out to Lady or will try to make the fibro. forum more open to people who have different opinions and have had success with natural things. It is always uncomfortable when a place that has been a safe place has a bump in the road like this eh. Kind of feels disconcerting. I think J. has a good heart, and hopefully she will open the door for healing in this situation. I am so glad Tennis is posting again! I have not ever replied to one of her posts, but I think she's great and I love how you all have become her aunties! lol! She is a special young lady - you can tell by her posts. In any case, I guess if situations keep recurring where there are unnecessarily aggressive responses to a member, then the fibro. community will need to speak up about that either to the mod, or to the person in charge of the forums to bring the situation to teh attention of someone who can affect positive change. The forums are there for the community and the mods are tehre to serve the community, so in my understanding that means the voice of teh community is really important in situations like these.

6 am - wow, you go girl!!! I love that time of day. But that is just a dream for me right now to be up so early. You know, when we moved into a home in Sept. 06 I began getting up at 6 or 7 every day - I actually had it in me. I wanted the quiet time of that time of day to just 'be' and drink it in. But out of the blue the hubby starts getting up early and going on his computer, which was right near mine. I was so mad. I never told him till later, but one of the reasons I got up so early was to have some time alone in the house!!!! lol. He works from home. Anyway, I tried for about a month, and then gave up. BUt that house was also moldy, and I had started getting sicker while there. I am sooooo soooo glad those days are behind us now.

So today, I slept till 11 - I need to get an extra curtain for this room because the light always wakes me up. So I sleep so restlessly in the morning that I am tired when I get up (moreso than usual that is.) I am not sure what all I'll do today. I am feeling tired of doing laundry and cleaning the house, but at the same time I just want it to be over, so I keep pushing. But I am looking forward to the day. I agree, that you must not be suffering depression as heavily now when you are looking forward to the day. I just realized that for me, this is also the first time in over a year, maybe two, that I am actually going to bed and waking up looking forward to teh day again!! Wow. High fives for us!! This is really big isn't it. I'm happy we are both feeling that way. I hope the same for Gill.

I guess I should get something to eat now. It is windy here today, but I havn't actually looked outside to see if we have sun or not shining today. I havn't gone for a real walk since moving in and think I would do well to do that soon. I am actually feeling restless for one.

That's all for now. Have yourself a beautiful day today - enjoying all your lovely awake time - and we'll talk to you later. :-)

Best wishes to you Gill on your potty mission and yoru cross stitching. Hope you have a good day today - you deserve it! yeah

Post Edited (manyembers) : 1/17/2008 12:15:09 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/17/2008 7:22 PM (GMT 0)

Hi again,

The sun is actually shining today.  I don't know how long that will last, we have some weather moving in.  I think that we are going to get those winds too.  And we are suppose to get more snow.  Actually it isn't all that cold here today.  The lull before the storm I suppose.

I am glad you liked to hear about the foxes and cougar.  I use to feed the birds, eventually everything started coming in to eat.  I had deer, turkeys (flock of 50 or more), coyotes and even a bear.  I had hawks and falcons coming in to kill the smaller birds.  That happened a few times.  Then I started getting the neighbors cats coming in.  So there was quite a bit of animal action going on around me.  I use to video tape as much as I could. 

I suppose that it is time for me to get some more things done, I got the laundry sorted to go to the laundromat.  I still have to do the dishes.

And high five back acha.  It is nice to feel good.  I hope it continues.

Hi to Gillian, where ever you are, let us know how you are doing when you feel up to it.

hugs,

Karen

Posted 1/18/2008 3:40 AM (GMT 0)
 

  Hi Karen,

  I went for a walk today!  It was snowing and so pretty!!  I felt a lot better after the exercise and fresh air too.

  I just did a pile of dishes and finished the last of the laundry.  I am feeling very stressed from the neverending cleaning and trying to get settled, but it is almost done.  THe dishwasher smells like a hair salon when it's on and I have discovered that the off gassing from that is what has been causing the pain in my arms to return.  SO I'll just need to be creative with when I run it so I dont' expose myself to those bad chemicals.  These little adjustments have all added up and now I am ready for things to be easier.  Yep. A-huh!!  yeah

  That is really cool that you filmed all that neat wildlife stuff!!  You are such an interesting person.  You remind me of Francis of Assissi who made friends with birds, and animals too I think and seemed to have a divine gift with them.

  I need to get some supper going now.  Hope you are having a pain free day your way and wish you a lovely evening!

  Gill, hope you are having a nice day your way!

  ttfn,  Embers

Posted 1/18/2008 10:27 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Karen & Em,

Well potty training was a HUGE success!! One day and he's doing great, it was hard going but worth it. He is now in his wee pants, (spiderman) ones and just wears a pullup at night.

I am having a good couple off days, i like it when i'm busy.

I didn't realise you both had Fibromyalgia, i knew Karen did but didn't know you did Em, it must be hard for you both some days and painful. I have to confess i don't know that much about it but i gather there are a lot off symptoms.

WOW! Karen were you not scared off the animals coming by? Especially the bear and coyote? I can't imagine looking out my kitchen window and seeing a bear there! LOL

Well that's me for now, it's 10:30am here so i better get some housework done, i'll pop by later.

Gillian x
Posted 1/18/2008 7:17 PM (GMT 0)

Hi you two.

Gillian that is just what I did, watched the bear out of the kitchen window.  He had opened a big bin of sunflower seed that I had for the birds and was laying in it eating.  He wasnt' a really big bear thank God.  My dogs barked and he ran away.  The cougar wasn't full grown either.  I was glad that he took that big leap and was gone.  My dogs chased him for a few seconds and came back.  I was relieved but in awe.

Well you guys, we had a little snow storm last night, it was mostly blowing.  But it was cold.  The sun is out today but  not warming it up much.  Tonight is suppose to be the worse.  Below zero.  I hope to be sleeping in a warm bed during that.  I just hope that after this cold snap that it warms up like spring.  I am so anxious to get outdoors.  I am starting to get spring fever.  Got to get outside and get that fresh air and exercise. 

I am so happy that the potty training went well.  I bet he likes his spiderman wee pants.  My grandaughter, who will be three next month is learning to use the potty.  She is doing well also.  She is quite the little character.  Always wants grandma to play with her.

Embers, I will have to look up that Francis of Assissi.  I could so easily live with the animals.  They are a lot easier to deal with than a lot of people that I know.  The unconditional friendship and the simplicity of their nature is what I like.  I use to love to watch the birds eat at the feeders.  Sometimes my yard sounded like a jungle.  It was so cool,

Well I guess that I should get something done today.  Like maybe mop my floors and vacuum.  Embers, they put a lock on the thread that was causing such a problem to J.  I still think that she was being unreasonable to LG.  But that is just my opinion.  S is speaking up for her now.  It just wasn't very nice what she was saying to LG.  The administrator handled it well I think.  I am thinking about putting my email addy in my profile.  I am not sure, but then if you guys want to email me you can.

I hope that you have a wonderful day.  I am going to try to stay warm.

Luv and hugs.

Karen

Posted 1/19/2008 3:49 PM (GMT 0)
Hi,

Well it's been a lovely day here today a tiny bit like spring!! Maybe that's wishful thinking. I went shopping with my mum this afternoon, i got a top and a scarf. The boys stayed with their dad overnight last night because i was going to the cinema with my sister. We seen P.S. I Love You, oh it was great, funny and sad at the same time, i had read the book a couple off yrs ago, so really wanted to see it, it had slight differences in it from the book but i think that usually happens.

I hope you both are having a nice weekend whatever you are doing, i'm sure you both will be dropping by later at some point.

Gillian x
Posted 1/19/2008 6:57 PM (GMT 0)
Gillian,

Was that the movie with Hillary Swank? If so I want to see it so bad. It looked like it could be kind of sad. But she is one of my favorite actresses and I like everything she has been in.

I am happy you got out with your sister. We need that sometimes. A little break from everyday things.

You sound good. I am happy for you.

I was so excited this morning. I have had an orchid plant for about a year. It was blooming when I bought it. Well, this one is blooming again. I know they are hard to grow, but this morning the bloom was opened and to me that is like a miracle. It has about five more buds, I hope that they all open. What Ilike about them is that not only are the flowers really cool, but they stay in bloom for a long time.

I hope that you have another beautiful day. The sun is out here but it is really cold. But at least the sun is out.

Embers, Where are you today? I hope that you are having a good day.

You both take care, you are always in my thoughts and prayers.

Luv and hugs,

Karen
Posted 1/19/2008 8:40 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Karen,

Yes thats the one, Hillary was wonderful in it, but her big hunk of an irish man was better, lol, see i always fall for the irish, Stephen my estranged is irish! I just can't help it when it comes to the irish.

I just love orchids, they were in my wedding bouquet. They are so expensive to buy here. I should go to a garden centre and buy bulbs or seeds and grow one myself, but i do know they are hard to grow, so well done you! Did you replant it or just leave it? Do you keep it indoors?

Emm, i hope you are having a good day, hope to hear from you soon.

Gillian x
Posted 1/19/2008 8:52 PM (GMT 0)

  Hi you guys -

  Gill, it sounds like you and your mum have a good relationship.  That is really nice.  I'm glad the movie made you laugh - I love to laugh too - I hope you continue to have a good week-end!

  Karen - we used to have a bird feeder too - and hubby was faithful to keep it filled.  I think they came just to say hello because they knew how much he liked them all.   yeah  Those birds were so funny though - because about 80% of the seed would end up on the ground.  lol.

   I need to go watch skating with hubby.  He needs to share these sorts of things with me - he is a true artist - and bonds by sharing things that touch him - beauty and art he loves.

  have a lovely day ladies!  Embers (Kimberly)

 

 


Post Edited (manyembers) : 1/19/2008 4:24:00 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/20/2008 3:12 AM (GMT 0)
Just wanted to say that I hope that you guys had a wonderful day. Not too bad here, nothing exciting. But not too bad either.

Hugs,

Karen
Posted 1/20/2008 4:45 AM (GMT 0)
Hey Gill,

If you go for the Irish - does that mean you are a U2 fan? They were my fav. band in highschool and I got to see them in concert when they were on tour for the Joshua Tree. Ahh...those were the good ol days. lol. I had such fun as a teenie bopper and miss the friendships I had back then. Many fun times.

Hugs back Karen. Did you do any vacuuming? How are you doing with early mornings? I went back on the rhodiola today. (Gill - did you read where we talked about it? Rhodiola rosea - helps with depression and other stuff. It's an herb)/ Well ladies, I think I realized I stopped needing it temporarily because despite teh emotional stress of teh trip, during that time I was away from a lot of other stressors - no housework, no driving in traffic for groceries, very little food prep., and no moving!!! BUt after moving out and moving in and soooo much to take care of, I'm getting stressed and exhausted again and rhodiola helps with both of those lots in myc ase. So figured I should go back on it. It helped so much with the depression I was having last time, and I actually started on it just after moving to modly house number 3 in the summer. I am seeing now just how much moving takes out of a person. And I am continuing to hope to not have to do it again for a very, very long time, but to have a long happy time in our present place. Maybe rhodiola should be nicknamed the "moving support herb."

My day was a mix of time in bed trying to recover from too much walking in cold snowy (but oh so pretty) weather. :0) This week we finally got the first snowfalls since I've been home, so now I truly know I'm back home.

Pretty tired again, so shall sign off here.

love and hugs, Embers
Posted 1/21/2008 10:51 AM (GMT 0)
LOL, yes i do like U2, they are so good even after all these yrs, i love their song with Mary J Blige - ONE. its brilliant.

I must read up on Rhodiola rosea, it sounds good.

Well not much happening here today, i'm going to make some soup and probably stay in, it's very went and cold outside.
I hope you both have a good day,

Gillianx
Posted 1/21/2008 4:55 PM (GMT 0)

Hi you guys,

Just wanted to pop in and say hello.  There hasn't been too much going on.  Just waiting out the weather here.  It has been awfully cold.  Below 0 at night.

I am moving very slow today.  Don't know what it is.  Just tired I guess.  Hope I am not getting depressed, just cabin fever I think. 

I hope you both have the most wonderful day today.

Luv and hugs,

Karen

Posted 1/21/2008 6:34 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Karen,
Awe i hope you feel better soon, the weather does contribute to our moods and aches and pains, it is so much easier to deal with it if the sun is shining and the birds are singing.

I didnt even venture out today except to take Liam to school and back, it has been snowing on and of all day but it isn't lying, it's to be freezing tonight!

Well i think i'll go and put my pj's on, it's only half 6 in the eveing but it's so dark and i'm not going anywhere.

I hope your next post says that your feeling better, you take care, thinking of you,

Gillian x
Posted 1/21/2008 7:21 PM (GMT 0)

Hi Gillian,

It's not all that bad, just a little blue.  I am so looking forward to springtime when I can get out and walk around.  Gotta lose some weight bad.  The holidays always get me with all the good sweets that are around.  Eating too much as usual and no way to burn it off.  I try to exercise but don't keep it up like I intend to.  Hopefully will lose a lot here soon.  We are going on a diet plan that sends you meals.  John's son is paying for it so we thought, what the heck, might as well try it.  But doesn't it sound strange to have to pay to lose weight?

I hope that you have a wonderful evening, I wonder where embers is.  She hasn't posted in a day or so.  It is funny how you can get use to talking to somebody and when you don't hear from them you worry.  I am sure she is just busy.

You take care, have a comfortable night.

Luv and hugs,

Karen

Posted 1/22/2008 2:15 AM (GMT 0)
 

  Hey you two,

  You've been busy here.  yeah I'm still around - just tired and taking it easy.  So this is short for now.  Thanks for making me smile tonight.  I'll pop by again when my energy is peppier.  I'm getting there, but need to limit my computer time so my brain rests a bit.  And my body too.  Time to sloooww down.  Till next time,  Ya'll have a nice night.   

 love, Embers

Posted 1/23/2008 5:20 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Ladies,

I thought i better check in with you both. All is quiet here, raining, snowing and high winds! YUK!

I still havent heard from the hospital about my op, i called the hospital and they received my results during last week, so it's just a case off waiting until the surgeon looks at them and decides what to do, then i'll hear.

Well nothing else happening here, i visited my friend today for an hour or so. She has a boy who will be one in march, so it was nice catching up.

I have been feeling a lot better since my last kind off meltdown a couple of wks ago, i truly never want to go there again. But there are days when i feel so strong and kind of happy then theres the days when i just despair! It's like torture, torture for something i don't understand or something i never did.

I hope you both are ok, i havent heard much from you both, but thats ok too, write when you can.

Gillian x
Posted 1/23/2008 7:43 PM (GMT 0)

Hello Gillian,

It is so great to hear from you.  I am so happy that you are feeling better, I did have a little blues going on a few days ago.  You were right, but I didn't want to admit it, but it is better now.  Just getting so sick of the winter time.  It would be better if I could get out and do something outside, but it has been too cold lately.  And windy.

Isn't it nice to be around babies.  I like that 1 year old age.  They are getting their personalities and they are so cute.  My grandson is about 1 month now.  He is just starting to look around at things and recognise faces.  He is a trip, but still likes to sleep a lot.  I can't wait until he gets a little older, though you never want them to grow up.

How is the potty training?  Is it still going well?  Three year olds are a trip too.  I guess that I love them all.

I hope that you have a wonderful day today.  I slept way too late again and am playing catchup. (again).  I am going to have to start setting an alarm or something.  I miss half of the day.

Take care,

Luv and hugs,

Karen

Posted 1/23/2008 8:39 PM (GMT 0)
Glad to hear from you Karen, oh i know i just love babies, i would have loved to have had a baby girl, i always said i would call her Hannah. But it wasn't meant to be, i had a miscarriage in between my 2 boys and i always said that that was Hannah!
Now i have 2 boys i could never imagine having a wee girl!

Well thats my boys in bed now and finally i get to watch a bit off tv before bed.

I wish you a good day and night friend,

Gillian x
Posted 1/23/2008 9:51 PM (GMT 0)
Hey Gillian,

I hope you have a pleasant evening. Enjoy your programs on the television.

We are having snow and cold again today. Can't wait for this weather to break. Suppose to warm up some at the end of the week.

Keep in touch,

Luv and hugs,

Karen
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