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Posted 11/27/2009 11:56 PM (GMT 0)
Hi I would like any feedback in regard's to depression,bi-polar and odc??  These are what i have but am at the point that it's taking over my life and i feel like im not controlling myself but something else is??

Is it normal to feel so tired all the time,not being able to eat properly as my stomach always feels sickly,but i put this down to my nerves. not wanting to do thing's that i used to enjoy.I cant remember the last time i laughed. What imtrying to say is that i want my old life back again. I was so happy go lucky and was alway's the funny lady with the great jokes,ect!!! That has all gone but i cant seem to get it back again. Also my daughter told me last night that my whole family hate me and are scared of me??? I wouldn't hurt a fly let alone hurt my family. I honestly cant believe my family has said all this stuff about me or is my daughter just playing her usual mind games with me??? I dont know what to think anymore either. If i wasn't depressed i could deal with all of this stuff but i just CANT DO IT!!!!!! im just no good for anyone.

Maybe they should just lock me up and throw away the key?????

sorry im venting again. so can anyone answer my question regarding being completely debilitated......

sincerly,

damagedgoods41 mad eyes mad eyes

Posted 11/28/2009 5:05 AM (GMT 0)
Being depressed and having mood disorder is very frustrating. I believe it is a mistake to believe that we can control our moods by logical thinking. It is not always in our mind, but in the body, failing to produce the right hormones and neurotransmitters. It is the mind that is the victim of an underlying biochemical disorder that in many cases can be treated by nutritional means. This must be treated before we can consider any "psychological" aspects of the problem. I know this is very controversial.

Depression is a Nutritional Disorder at:
http://www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/articles/depression_disorder.html
Depression: a Disease of Energy Production at:
http://curezone.com/upload/PDF/Articles/jurplesman/depression_energy3.pdf
Silent Diseases and Mood Disorders at:
http://www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/articles/silentdiseases.html

and ask for a referral to a Nutritional Doctor, Clinical Nutritionist or a Nutritional Psychologist, if self-help therapy fails.

 

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Post Edited By Moderator (stkitt) : 11/28/2009 5:57:36 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 11/28/2009 5:23 AM (GMT 0)
Hi,

First, I'm sorry you are dealing with depression. I can relate to what you are saying because I also used to be the funny, happy one. It may or may not be true what your daughter said about what your family said. Things often get misinterpreted when you don't speak to someone directly (like "Telephone"). If your family is anything like mine, they could just be frustrated that they don't know what to do to help you and don't like seeing you different. My mom seems so angry when I tell her how depressed I am, but she later tells me that she just loves me so much and wants me to be happy and doesn't know how to help me. Keep in mind that everyone has problems and is under stress about something, so knowing that you are not yourself is probably just one more thing on top of a pile of problems that could be angering your family. They also might not understand depression and don't know what to expect when they are with you.

I know that uneasy feeling in your stomach you are talking about. It's caused by the anxiety and worries. I get tired too. I feel like my worries and anxiety make me tired. And depression and stress will affect your eating/appetite. Some people don't want to eat at all and some people become emotional eaters, eating for comfort even though they may not be very hungry. Both can cause unhealthy weight loss or weight gain.

You sound like a really nice person. I know sometimes it feels like the best thing to do is just lock yourself away from people so that you don't continue to frustrate them, but losing complete contact is not the answer. I know with my situation, I recently (just yesterday) had to force myself to gain a new perspective on the situation that was causing my depression. I had to do this or else I was just going to feel sick all the time, fail out of school and lose all my friends. I know the situation I'm in right now is unfortunate, and being a sensitive person makes it really hard for me to feel good at myself, but deep down, I know I still deserve to be happy.

I would like to hear more about the source of your depression. So far, I feel so much healthier since I decided to change my attitude. I've even starting laughing again. I'm not 100% back yet, but I'm hoping I'll stay up like this and not fall back down again because that life I was living for the past four months was terrible. Maybe we can brainstorm a way to get you feeling and acting more like yourself again. I can also tell you more about my strategies if you would like.

Please hang in there. The world needs you and your wonderful gifts.

NW
Posted 11/28/2009 2:13 PM (GMT 0)
dear beverly. i ask myself these questions from time to time. i saw the best consultant psychiatrist/forensic psychiatrist in this country for four and a half years. i wote to him, and said, thank you for your help and committement to me, and i wrote-something along the lines of, it is with me, thus i am me, and that i have exhausted you enough. i learnt that i am me, with diabetes, with infertility, with a bad back, with depression, with ptsd, with severe borderline personality disorder, hospitalisations, treatments etc. i have never changed, people perceptions are not ours, i am me-everything included. keep well and safe. jamie
Posted 11/28/2009 4:25 PM (GMT 0)
NightWish,

Beverly has another thread that explains the source of her sadness and anger. I think it is called (my memory) Can somebody help with bipolar issues, or something like that. You may want to read what she is going through with family right now. It will give you some insight as to what she is going through at the moment. I feel that we can give her alot of support here.

You are a very valued member here and I think that you can give Beverly a lot of support.

Best wishes for a wonderful day.

Hugs, Karen
Posted 11/29/2009 4:17 AM (GMT 0)
Hello Nightwish,

Thx for ur reply. Your very kind. Im not sure if you know much about hormones or lack of?? I have some blood test results regarding my hormone count,and this is how it goes.

1.sensitive testosterone: Ref Range-(0.5-1.4) is what it should be.

                                      My ref range is *nmol/L-zero count??

2.sensitive estrogen: Ref range-(100-377) is what it should be.

                                My Ref Range is **pmol/L e2/-zero count??

Basically my estrogen level should be between 100/377 but is *zero.

and my tesosterone level should be between(0.5-1.4) but is **zero.

And i wonder why im an absolute mess and dont know whether im Aurthur of Martha!!!! I cant concentrate at all.I forget what i was going to do. My mind is all over the place and it's getting to hard to cope with all this **** going on still. If it doesn't rain,it pours instead and that's the story of my life.......

thx for listening to all.

sincerly,

damaged......  xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

Posted 11/29/2009 12:56 PM (GMT 0)
i am in somewhat of a similar situation. no energy, grumpy, behind in everything, sleeping all day-last 3-4 anyway. keep fightin' my friend, we will get there!! jamie.
Posted 11/29/2009 11:36 PM (GMT 0)
dEAR Jamiee,

Thankyou kindly for ur word's of wisdom to me. Im sorry that you also have to go through all the horrible effects of "lack of testosterone"!! Do you have other effects like hot flushes,low libido ect!!! You dont need to answer if ur not comfortable.

Your the first male that i have known that has the same prob's with lack of h/mones and it help's me to know that im not the only person to be suffering terribly from this. Jamiee i truly hope u start to feel better real soon,as ur a great bloke/man!! And u to deserve some happiness in ur life,so i hope it all work's out for you to.. Thx for being so kind,it brings tears to my eye's when i read my reply's. I just wish my fsmily would be supportive of me but that will never happen. Anyway jamiee ur in my thought's as i said u need happiness.

 

sincerly,

 

damaged...... cry cry

 

ver emotional 2day!!!!!!!!   xxxxxxxxxxxx

Posted 11/30/2009 5:17 AM (GMT 0)
Hi dg,

I'm sorry but I don't know much about hormone levels. I'm also sorry that this is causing you to feel poorly. But with your positive spirit, I think you can get through this difficult time. I know you have a much longer thread about the specifics of your issue that I am probably much too far behind on, but I hope you are receiving the medical care you need to address the problem. If you aren't, hang in there, as I know how it feels to not receive the treatment you are needing.

Find the simple joys in life. They are usually the most important things anyway.

NW :-)
Posted 11/30/2009 9:03 AM (GMT 0)
beverly, on the pellets i was "all of the above" now much better, still have some issues that men suffer from!!! lol!!! a little up n down so to speak!!! lol more again!!!!!!!!!! not been active sexually for some time. this should explain things. cheers, jamie idea
Posted 11/30/2009 9:17 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Jamiee,

Thx for ur reply....lol very funny the way you described it. Sorry if i embarrased you in regard's to u know what?? Im sorry that ur going through this too!!! Also we all have our up and down day's be it male or female...  It's been 9yrs for me,but dont miss it at all???? Am i mad or what??? Again thx Jamiee and may peace be with you to!!!!

 

sincerly,

 

damaged...... blush blush blush blush

Posted 11/30/2009 10:41 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Ive tried to have a talk to my mother tonight,but as usual she just keep's changing the subject. As in "oh dear ur sister's not well at all and im so worried" i asked her what was wrong for her to be so worried and her reply was "she has a swollen gum" and that's her main concern!!!!  Ive tried to write letter's but they didn't work,ive tried talking but that doesn't work and im trying not to speak to either of them as im so angry with them and they act like nothing is wron. well do they have another thing coming.

and NW thankyou for ur reply and i will have a chat in a day or two if that's ok with you?? Thx again to all.

 

sincerly,

 

damaged......     xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx sad skull sad skull

Posted 11/30/2009 12:59 PM (GMT 0)
BEVERELY, NEVER SURRENDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not embarressed beverly. albeit i do miss the intamacy, this will be rectified when my lady moves in!!!!! LOL!! tongue tongue

I AM A ONE LADY PERSON. CERTAINLY WILL HELP THE DEPRESSION!! idea

LOL, BIG TIME!!! smilewinkgrin smilewinkgrin smilewinkgrin JAMIE.

Posted 12/1/2009 1:12 AM (GMT 0)
blush  hey  Jamiee,

 

Thx again for ur reply. I actually had a bit of a giggle when i read it!!! Ur a very funny guy Jamiee and i think that makes u even more special,even ur personality is great and ur not a negative kind of guy,am i correct???? Anyway Jamiee im going to see my gyne on the 16th of december and hopefully i will be able to get my hand's on some of that hrt gel!!!!! I also saw my doc thismorning and i have some kind of infection in the blood and it's causing me to break out into small white scaby sores but when they get itchy and i have a scratch they bleed non stop??

So ive been put on antibiotics,not the tablet's but the oral solution and hopefully this will get rid of it!!!

Anyway Kamiee when is ur lady love moving in with you?? I bet you cant wait or the day?? I truly hope thing's work out well for the both of you. Alway's in my thought's. look after YOU>>>>

 

sincerly,

 

damaged....... blush cool blush cool       xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Posted 12/1/2009 1:20 AM (GMT 0)
P>S> Jamiee i forgot to tell you that my doc said he wants me to go into the pshyc Unit to get stabilized on my new medications,but i told hime that i wont go!!! He said i can put you in against ur will and that's what i should really do because if something happen's to you i will be liable?? Can they just put me in there even though i dont want to.
Dont i have a say in the matter??? Uve been an inpatient alot like me but ive never come across a doc to ut me in against my will?? What should i d???

Any help from other's in the same boat?????

Thx to all and Jamiee.

damaged........ :(((((((((
Posted 12/1/2009 2:00 AM (GMT 0)
Beverly,

I am not positive, but if you are sure that the doctor is going to admit you, and you have a choice, I think, (THINK) that if you admit yourself, you have more choices as to when you leave.  I am not positive about this, Jamie knows more than I do about the legalities of these matters.  Do you think he is admitting you because of your manic behavior?  You might do well to have your meds adjusted in a controlled environment.  I know that you have really been struggleing with everything.  So try not to get frightened.  This could be the best thing that has ever happened.  You can get away from your situation at home and do some thinking and make some decisions.  Try to go with the situation and get what good you can out of it.  You really are in a tough situation right now and I think that you do need a break.   But I really think if you self admit, you can leave when you want to.  NOT POSITIVE OF THIS... 

There have been other members that have stayed on healingwell during their hospital stay.  So if you go in, make sure to stay in touch with us.  We will keep you company throughout your stay.  But take care of you first.  That is most important.  That is the advice that you often give, follow it with your heart. 

I think that you have been carrying a heavy burden Beverly.  And I really think it is time that you get a break.  So this just might be for the best.   Remember, what you say, take care of you.

Keep us posted.  Email me if you feel you need to.  I am off work for two more days and I will be sure to answer.  Providing computer is working good.  I don't know if it is the forum or my computer, but it is awful slow.  Have you been haveing any troubles like that?  Let me know.

I am getting a computer chip to give me more memory, but I am scared to put the chip in.  I guess you have to be really careful as not to mess up the computer.  I don't know, I would like santa to bring me a new computer.  But that remains to be seen. 

Take care Beverly,

Please post again

Hugs, Karen

Posted 12/1/2009 8:12 AM (GMT 0)
  1. yes they can, providing you meet the criteria to be an involuntary patient.

criteria,

1. unable to be treated safely in the community and your mental illness needs immediate treatment.

2. other peoples safety/property etc.

3. that you are deemed mentally unstable and will deteriorate.

4. a risk to yourself, self-harm/suicide

5. have refused treatment and unable to consent to less restrictive treatment.

 

within 24 hours you will be assessed as to wether you saty as an involuntary patient or not. karen is correct, if you go in voluntarily you will have more say and rights, furthermore you can discharge yourself at most facilities, moreover during improved treatment you will be able to have small leave requirements as well. usually as a part of discharge planning.

i will talk more about your rights as an invlountary patient later. please not if you go in voluntarily, your likely to be discharged a lot quicker. hope this helps. jamie 

Posted Yesterday 7:18 AM (GMT 0)
hI ALL,

i SPOKE TO MY DOC 2DAY AND HE SAID THAT HE WONT PUT ME IN AGAINST MY WILL,BUT I HAVE TO PROMIS HIM THAT IF I GET ANY WORSE THEN I WILL ADMIT MY SELF!!! i KNOW THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IF I DO GO IN AS I CAN STABILIZE AT HOME,IT'S JUST A WASTE OF A BED WHEN SOMEONE WAY SICKER THAN ME SHOULD BE FIRST IN LINE BEFORE ME!! tHE Seroquel is still knocking me around but my pdoc say;s that i have to try and put up with the side effect's. "not fair",next time i see my other pdoc we are going to talk about putting me on abilify as i think i need to atleast try it!!!

Anyway thx again to all. Hope ur all doing well too???

 

sincerly,

 

damaged........ cool cool eyes eyes

Posted Yesterday 8:46 AM (GMT 0)
sounds fair. promise me too, that if you go rapidly down hill that you will check yourself in. okay. abilify is a good med, esp with thoughts and cognitive processess. has good theraputic processess for mood stabilisation as well. keep safe, and if u need a laugh, well just keep reading my posts!!!!!!!!!! a funny one for you...........what goes up.......comes down!!!!!!!!!!!! tongue tongue jamie.
Posted Yesterday 8:59 AM (GMT 0)
hi Jamiee yes i will promise to go to the hospital if i truly need to ok. Also thankyou so much for cheering me up. @day was the first day that i have smiled and even had a little giggle. It was ur joke that made me giggle..lol I loved how u put it, what goes up.... goes down...... HAHA
Ur a funny man Jamiee. Keep up the great work that you do on this forum.

thankyou again very much,

damaged.......... :)))))))
Posted Yesterday 9:12 AM (GMT 0)
  1. you are welcome
  2. it is a blessing to be on this forum
  3. laughter is indeed the best medicine.
  4. i continue to learn so much from my hw family.

my compassion and gratitude to one and all. be good, be well and be safe. cheers, jamie

Posted Yesterday 9:18 AM (GMT 0)
Hi i also went to work 2day and had 31/2 hours to clean 90squares of living area. Ive come home completely stuffed and have also come down with some kind of virus. The doc has put me on antibiotics so hopefully that will help as i feel like **** to put it politely. I have to wok tomorrow and on friday,so ive had a busy week. Keep's me out of trouble anyway.... lol

 

sincerly,

 

damaged.......  xxxxxxxx shocked redface redface shocked

Posted Yesterday 12:26 PM (GMT 0)
fluids my dear, keep them up, and if your work committements are brutal, esp with a virus..........then take it easy. you do not need the extra pressure. slow and steady wins the race, keep battlin' on my friend, me. jamie. scool scool scool
Posted Yesterday 8:06 PM (GMT 0)
Damaged, I feel like I can relate to you. I have bipolar disorder and PTSD. I'm suffering from depression now.

In Aug. 2007, I had to have a total colectomy. My constipation stayed and in May of this year I had an ileostomy. It didn't work and I had emergency surgery in June. I was in the hospital for 52 days. Now I have an ileo tube running down my leg into a urine bag. I was just at Cleveland Clinic and they say that my small intestines are still in a knotted mess and it will be at least June of next year before I can have surgery for a traditional ileostomy.

I am very discouraged and depressed. It is hard to crawl out of where I am right now. I just want to be fixed and then left alone.

butterfly
Posted Today 2:58 AM (GMT 0)
Hey Jamiee how's thing's going for you?? Are u feeling better yet with ur teething prob's. Thx for ur kind reply. Yes i will have to take thing's a little slower as this virus is really knocking me hard. Ive just finished a job that i did thismorning and im completely stuffed. And this house is very easy compared to the one that i have 2morrow again,which is 90 squares of living area 15squares of pool and spa area and a seven square garage and ther are only 2 adult's and 2 children in such a huge house. Personally i dont think people need a home that big??? So now ive gone from doing this house on a Friday each week to every wednesday & Friday's each week, so im getting to the point where im having to knock back other job's as im so busy. Last night i picked up another 2 job's in heelers Hill u should know where that is jamiee?? Anyway i now have 6 client's and am nearly working full time!!! "cant complain hey". Look after urself jamiee as ur a good guy,and u know how to cheer a person up!!!!!

sincerly,

damaged......redface shocked redface shocked      xxxxxxx

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