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Welp, it's for sure "No White Carbs..."
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hshobx
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Posted 1/20/2013 11:39 PM (GMT 0)
I am a newly diagnosed diabetic (11/5/2012) who is obsessed now with tracking my glucose. As of yesterday, I was doing so well (home A1C 6.9 down from 7.9 at diagnosis) and regular glucose checks coming in under 100 that I decided to test eating a white potato. At a dinner with friends. So I had two small boiled potatoes...along with dinner of course (consumed with lots of protein, I mean.)
Blood only spiked to 126, so great. Not that I would eat them every day, but not bad!
Today I had 1/4 of a slice of homemade white bread so I could sop up some delicious sauce (no carb sauce...) Blood spiked to 179!
As I have worked to 'weed out' the stuff that makes my blood spike, it always come back to floury substances. White flour, wheat flour, corn starch, oatmeal...all make me spike.
That, and milk. I can drink cream but not milk.
I am posting this only because it might help someone else...cut out ALL even vaguely white stuff - don't believe 'whole grains' are good for *you* - and then test individually per item.
Lanie G
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Posted 1/21/2013 1:32 AM (GMT 0)
This is why testing is so important for us. Keeping a journal/food log helps us see what food makes us spike.
The amount of carbs is but one of the factors. We also have to consider: the fiber in the food, the other food consumed, the amount of food consumed, our level of activity in general, our blood sugar readings before and after eating.
In the beginning when I was first given a meter and I actually started to USE it, I became a serial tester. I tested all day long and used up a lot of strips, when I got up, before breakfast, after breakfast one hour, two hours, before a snack, after, before lunch and one hour after, two hours after, exercise before and after, ..... ad nauseum. I had to know how I reacted to all kinds of food and that helped me understand what I could and couldn't eat to keep my blood sugar more or less level. I cannot eat potatoes or oatmeal without having spikes whereas some people can with relatively lower spikes. Of course not being on meds means controlling this by just diet and exercise, so having tight control of the diet is even more important.
You will do fine by being aware of how your blood sugar reacts to your meals. By the way, whole milk has fewer carbs than 2% or skim milk, so if you really want to drink milk, you might try a small glass of whole milk with breakfast. I like my coffee light so I put a lot of half and half in it in the morning and that works well for me.
hshobx
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Posted 1/21/2013 3:29 AM (GMT 0)
The milk thing threw me off for a few weeks...Whole milk just made me spike but I wouldn't believe it. Then I switched to half & half and glucose DROPPED for same time readings...
For me it seems not to be the amount of total carbs, it's the make up of the carb. So that's why I have been testing individually and found the flour to be so bad, and the milk.
Now I just drink cream in my coffee and no toast !!! and I'm good.
Lanie G
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Posted 1/21/2013 1:15 PM (GMT 0)
I'm glad you're getting a handle on this. It's such an individual condition!
IamCurious
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Posted 1/21/2013 2:17 PM (GMT 0)
So I had two small boiled potatoes...along with dinner of course (consumed with lots of protein, I mean.)
Blood only spiked to 126, so great...
Today I had 1/4 of a slice of homemade white bread so I could sop up some delicious sauce (no carb sauce...) Blood spiked to 179!
It is not a popular theory around here but you may be allergic to dairy and/or wheat gluten. I myself can eat lactose-free dairy but find that gluten not only aggravates my ulcerative colitis symptoms, but also spikes my fasting blood sugar the next day. Much more than ordinary carbs.
Scroll down to page 46 to see how milk can affect diabetes in some people. And page 56-58 to read about
gluten. My only caveat is to forget about
tests for gluten sensitivity. They only indicate if you have Celiac. The only test that works is to avoid gluten for 3-4 weeks to see if your symptoms lesson. I tested OK for gluten and later found that it was wrecking my digestive system.
http://books.google.com/books?id=Zz-3R7QXQ-4C&printsec=frontcover&dq=diabetes+without+drugs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vdbuUKXsNY-y0AH5noCwDA&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=diabetes%20
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mrsbugzy
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Posted 2/11/2013 2:04 AM (GMT 0)
Unfortunately LOTS of people have negative tests for gluten, only to find out they have a severe sensitivity to it! I highly suggest trying to avoid it.. there are several kinds of breads and pastas that are really good.. Udi's has the best breads! They do have bagels, but they are more of a croissant consistency.. I have found most other breads are of an english muffin type of texture, and are only good toasted. It can be expensive, but soo worth it if you feel better! It is important to remember that gluten sensitivities come in several forms..from memory issues, runny nose, itchy eyes, tired, "brain fog", sleepy, and insomnia, constipation, diahrea, it all varies in people. In general, if you think you have allergies, but can't find tha cause, it is probably gluten.. I found the best book to follow is Dr. Gott's no sugar no flour diet. It is easier than you may think, but it is in EVERYTHING... I mean seriously.. why is the 2nd ingredient is Twizzlers flour????????
Good luck, and if you really want a treat, Shabtai Bakery on the net is GREAT place to get stuff :) good luck!
Lanie G
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Posted 2/11/2013 2:10 PM (GMT 0)
It would be highly interesting to me for a true diabetic to test his blood sugar before and after eating a bread product that has no gluten.
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