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Posted 11/17/2012 10:51 PM (GMT 0)
Ok so I have read a lot of things that can affect my fibro, so going to cut pretty much everything I can and introduce one at a time weekly to see what makes it worse... lol not sure what's going to be left to eat but I have to do somethi g been feeling g like crap, and would rather that than increase meds.

So no eggs, uncooked tomatoes, citrus, white flour, chocolate, sweets, caffeine, dairy... and going from there... hoping it helps :-)
Posted 11/17/2012 10:57 PM (GMT 0)
I admire what you're doing. But make sure you're replacing the foods you're trying to eliminate with foods that are good for you.

Maybe eat meats that are lean and healthy like chicken, turkey, and fish. Eat grains like wild rice, brown rice pasta, and gluten free bread. I eat Ezekial bread. It's a sprouted bread and it sits well with me. Eat lots of fruits and vegetables. If you feel pretty good eating foods like these add one of the foods that might not agree with you and see how you feel. It takes time.

I'm sure there will be others that will add what works well for them.

Good luck to you.
Posted 11/17/2012 11:07 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you! Yes that is my plan! I am sure I will be posting updates and questions etc lol.. just so much easier to grab something easy than take time to prepare when feeling bad.... been eating oranges but found out they can affect fibro too! Sigh lol
Posted 11/18/2012 1:25 PM (GMT 0)
Lol, Deepwell, great place for the cookies. We do what we need to do.

Your welcome, dustinshunny. For some meal ideas I always have a salad for supper using healthy greens, a protein like a egg, shrimp, or chicken, with thinly sliced carrots, thinly sliced seedless cucumber, peanuts, chinese rice noodles, manderine oranges, and mushrooms. It's yummy. I'm fairly naughty with the dressing. Since I can't do a vinagarette dressing I use Kraft poppy seed but not too much.

For lunches, that's my bigger meal, I do a healthy protein like fresh fish, chicken, or turkey along with it sometimes I have sweet potato and another vegetable and sometimes I make a wild rice blend or red rice.

Sometimes I make a healthy meatloaf with ground turkey and every other week I have my spagetti made with homemade spagetti sauce and ground turkey meatballs and sauteed zuchinni and mushrooms mixed in. I feel like I'm getting some comfort food eating this one.

Good luck to you.

Posted 11/18/2012 1:56 PM (GMT 0)
Well I read eggs can be an issue too! And the new massage therapist my husband found for me treats fibro and has numerous books and cook books etc (she has done her home work) says citrus and uncooked tomatoes can be a problem.
Deep well I think with me starting from scratch it may help sooner than eliminating one thing at a time. It is so hard when you have to look a hundred places and piece it all together to decide what to cut out.

So I started this am lol, I did have my coffee going to have to get decaf, but I ate peanut butter on whole wheat toast. I know the toast has gluten but out of my daughters wheat free bread, so at least it isnt white flour...I like a sweet with my coffee and that did take the place of the sweet. So going only drink a couple cups of coffee vs a pot, thinking about salad for lunch, but have ranch dressing which would be dairy, or Italian, I am guessing the Italian would be better with my new attempt at changing how I eat? Haven't gotten to dinner yet I know theleft overs we have are not oK to eat so have to think it through. A little harder because I do not eat any seafood at all
Posted 11/18/2012 2:24 PM (GMT 0)
Sounds good, dustinshunny.

What I can tell with a food that doesn't agree with me and that causes me more fibro pain is it first starts in my stomach. If I have an upset stomach it leads to increased fibro pain. What I do for an upset stomach is have a spoonful of raw honey. I read about that on a couple websites.

What also helps me is to eat every couple hours. I have a Kashi bar with no chocolate mid-morning and a couple dates and almonds, in the afternoon I have greek yogurt and walnuts.

The ranch dressing might sit better with you than the italian. The italian dressing probably has more vinegar. But each of us is so different, see how it sits with you.

I can also tell if I ate well for me that day if I sleep okay. Some nights I only get four hours of sleep using my sleep supplements and other nights I get five to six.

Good luck to you.
Posted 11/18/2012 3:00 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you! All advise and comments are very much appreciated. One of the signs I read is indigestion also, lol so far so good, kinda makes me not want to eat :-) hahahaha
Posted 11/19/2012 3:04 PM (GMT 0)
I too am trying to cut foods that I know make me more miserable. But I personally don't have the will power to cut them all out like you! So bravo on that!! I personally have noticed that red meat and overly processed food don't sit we'll with myself. I'm trying to switch out white breads as well. My favorite snack of corn dogs...well let's just say that I better be feeling mighty good to start with to enjoy them! ;) haha! Good luck! I hope that you're able to find foods that you love that don't make you feel like you're missing out!! :)
Posted 11/19/2012 6:36 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you !

Well so far so good, such temptations with the kids here though :)

 I do know dairy is an issue, so I had a spinach and cheese omlette this morning, and had an issue. So Going to have the same thing tomorrow without the cheese and if I am ok then I am good with eggs. If not then I will leave the eggs alone..

It is going to be a slow process that I know. I just hate feeling so blah... and I know the meds help from where I was before them. But I am only 36 and when I have to get someone to sweep for me cause I can't, something has to change !

I have to find a  replacement for a pop tart with my coffee... The PB toast did yesterday, but not sure I should eat that everyday, spinach omelette was good, but not he same as a pop tart lol with my coffee... I have cut down to 3 cups of coffee the last few days though...

Posted 11/19/2012 8:16 PM (GMT 0)
I've been using almond flour for baking scones and muffins. Also, there are many gluten free flours (Bob's Redmill) and mixes that are quite delicious.

Bob's whole grain bread flour is great. Highly recommend his products.
Amazon has an assortment of gluten free products. If you are commited to baking for yourself, you can set up a regular delivery.

But yikes, when looking at the 'avoid' food list, there's not much left except vegetables, lean meats and some brown rice. It's up to us to devise an appetizing menu. Like everything, it's a learning process.
Posted 11/19/2012 8:54 PM (GMT 0)
I KNOW!!! LOL, actually my daughter has a wheat allergy so Wheat free isnt hard to have. If you can Find UDI's they have bread, hot buns, hamb buns, etc all wheat free my 11 yr old LOVES that brand !
Posted 11/19/2012 10:24 PM (GMT 0)
Poptart is pretty bad, processed and no nutrition. I like to do a bowl of Kashi cereal in the morning with a banana on the side. My favorite variety of Kashi cereal is the blueberry cluster.

I love almond flour, I've made muffins with it, but it's so expensive. So I've been experimenting with other gluten free flours.

Dustin, what's a UDI?
Posted 11/20/2012 1:29 AM (GMT 0)
UDI is a wheat free brand, tastes better than other wheat free items some stores here in Florida carry their items.
Yes I know pop tarts are horrible lol, but addictive :-)
http://m.udisglutenfree.com/
http://udisfood.com/
Posted 11/20/2012 1:32 AM (GMT 0)
So 2 days off sugar, dairy, processed foods (other than cheese on omelette this am) and I don't know if it was a good day or the food, but my fibro has been so minimal today. Granted I didn't do a lot of house work, but spent several hours at desk applying for jobs, cleaned kitchen, shopped. So we will see! Gave me the encouragement to keep trying.
Posted 11/20/2012 5:45 AM (GMT 0)
Oh my, the things i see on here. I have had an issue with eggs for a long time. If I eat them i risk becoming sick to my stomach. So I will eat one or 2 deviled eggs (love them) if i can sneak them without dh seeing me. He has now banned me from eating tomatoes as they are causing problems also. He not only worries that they make my stomach upset and hurt, but with my stomach issues is afraid i will start passing blood or throwing it up and they will not know due to the color. I thought i was the only one (once again) with these problems.
Posted 11/20/2012 6:18 AM (GMT 0)
LWF, Do you have divertiulous? (sp?)

My mother is banned from eating anything with seeds and nuts. They get trapped in her colon and cause infections.
Posted 11/20/2012 6:23 AM (GMT 0)
never been dx with it but my mom has it. I do have gastricparesis(spelling?)So some foods tend to sour in my stomach. I take 2 meds to help with it. I know my mom suffers a lot when it acts up. I just recently started having problems with tomatoes. I love tomato juice (grew up with my mom and mammaw making it themselves) so it is hard for me and I also think a sandwich is not a sandwich without a tomato slice.

The er dr thinks i have a gall bladder issue that is causing some of the problem.

Posted 11/20/2012 6:27 AM (GMT 0)
My mom has that too. She's a diabetic and the doctor told her it was normal for diabetic's to get it.
Posted 11/21/2012 3:03 AM (GMT 0)

All these diet restrictions are a Red Herring – Fibro is caused by a dysfunction in the HPA axis in the central nervous system. It is the same for anxiety – IBS and MCS. Once you are eating a good, clean whole foods, low glycemic diet and eating to keep blood glucose levels balanced no other food restrictions will be of benefit.

The National Fibromyalgia Association the HPA Axis connection back in 1997 and it is the primary focus of current neurophysiology psychoneuroimmunology regarding fibro.

A major issue with the HPA axis is that patients can be prone to suggestion and nocebo responses. Over time this can cause many restrictions in our lives if we allow the mind to run rampant. If you believe you are having adverse reactions to food that are not true allergic reactions you are probably being tricked by the limbic system.

Posted 11/21/2012 3:07 AM (GMT 0)
Gastroparesis is a common stress condition caused by over activation of the sympathetic nervous system – same as fibro – a system stuck in sympathetic dominance
Posted 11/21/2012 3:46 AM (GMT 0)
I guess I will decide for myself which food restrictions might be of benefit for me.

Proclaiming loudly about causes and answers doesn't work too well around here, BTW.
Posted 11/21/2012 4:01 AM (GMT 0)
Woolrow, You go ahead and post what you want to say.

By the way, There is a wonderful little button on everybody's post...the thumbs down icon. If you do not want to read post from someone you just click it. This has kept me from getting upset at others who don't agree with me.
Posted 11/21/2012 7:07 AM (GMT 0)
Dustinshunny...........if you have health insurance, could you ask your MD to refer you to an allergist to be tested for food allergies? One thing I would suggest if tomatoes and vinegar set your tummy to rumbling is to avoid all acidic foods for a while and see if that helps. Citrus fruits, coffee, tea, vinegar, peppers of any type just to name a few things. Just a thought.
Posted 11/21/2012 1:53 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks ! Will do! Well I have had eggs 2 different days and both days no pain till after the eggs. I do have insurance now. Will it show up on allergy test? I mean sugar causes fibro to be worse but I am not allergic to it.

Just wondering if allergy test would show what makes my fibro worse since it isn't really an "allergy"
Posted 11/21/2012 1:55 PM (GMT 0)
James, we know what fibro is trust me we have all researched it, but as with any other problem there are foods that can aggravate it and it is different for everyone so we have to check things as individuals.
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