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Posted 6/4/2015 3:58 AM (GMT 0)
So i started back for some more therapy...they manually work deep in the fascia...wow the first night is tough as your body begins to release the toxins...i feel that almost as high inflammation...

I used to get massage and would go through this after massage also.

I did drink more water as they say to...

Anyway the first night is always rough but things were moving better today! I only go once a week so i do not feel off more than one night a week..my body seems to want to adjust slowly

Does anyone else use manipulative therapies?
Posted 6/4/2015 11:38 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Ljm,

It's nice to hear that your massage therapist is helping you. I've also been seeing one who specializes in cranial sacrum massage.

I seem to be improving somewhat but I find I really have to be careful about overdoing lifting the very small amount that I can do and walking and such so I don't undo what she's done. I'm not sure yet if this is just a temporary fix between appointments.

I also see a physical therapy doctor who specializes in helping women with their pelvic floor muscles. Mine were very tight. I've now reached the point where I'm performing prescribed exercises to strengthen muscles in that area. This doctor believes tight pelvic floor muscles can cause fibromyalgia symptoms. We'll see.

And, yes, I drink a lot of water too.
Posted 6/4/2015 12:37 PM (GMT 0)
I have an acupressure mat that I use. Kind of freaky actually. You would think it would hurt to lay on, but it doesn't. I also drink a lot of water afterwards. Only did it a couple times, got to do this more.

Thanks for sharing...

Hugs, Karen...
Posted 6/4/2015 12:50 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, I get massages and the toxic overload, but more than that, the lactic acid release, really makes me sick. I am down for at least a day or more after one. I have found that it usually hits me around 24 hours after the massage so I started getting my massages as late into the evening as I can so it hits me the next night, then I sleep through the worst of it. I also plan them on a Thrus, Fri, or Sat evening so the recovery doesn't interfere with the work week.
Posted 6/4/2015 2:52 PM (GMT 0)
My massage therapist works on the fascia too but she says there is no need for a deep massage and that it would just cause me more pain. She does a gentle massage and it truly works and I don't suffer for it either. I drink a lot of water all the rest of the day and am fine.

Three weeks ago I saw her. I had just spread 130 bags of mulch with my daughter and also cut three feet off a hedge that ran the entire width of her home. My muscles were a mess. My had lumps and pain all over...even in my feet and neck. She gave me a gentle massage (a few areas were uncomfortable when she massaged them) that lasted one hour. I headed home drinking the bottled water she gives out after a massage. I had far less pain than when I went to her and within two days I didn't have the excess pain that I had caused myself.

Massage is amazing, I think, and I highly recommend it for

Sherrine
Posted 6/4/2015 9:55 PM (GMT 0)
I am laying on the acupressure mat while i am reading the forum.

I have noticed in the past that i release a lot of fluid retention after using the mat..

Yes karen the mats look like they would hurt but do not..i still wear a thin shirt rather than the bare skin they recommend...but i do put my bare feet on it and my feet love it..

Sherrine the technique i get is called fascial counterstrain ..it is extremely gentle, but i still react to it..by releasing toxins..which is good long term but i really feel it that night.

We did a little shopping today and are in a wet cool pattern, so i am very happy to be home!

I know that if you stick with massage , over time you get til you do not have the toxin build up..that would be great.. I have not had this therapy for about a year, so i guess thats a lot to release..

My daughter with fibro went this week also and she gets bad headaches as the toxins release, but we know in the long run we feel better!
Posted 6/7/2015 12:01 AM (GMT 0)
I love my mat!!!
Posted 6/9/2015 3:38 AM (GMT 0)
I did not know tight pelvic muscles can cause fibro. How do you know if they're tight?
Posted 6/9/2015 10:35 AM (GMT 0)
Hi phlx,

This is what my doctor thinks. I'm not fully there yet in believing her. I went to see her yesterday and when she checked me she said I was open 100 percent. I was 0 percent the first few weeks I saw her but with the exercises she gave me, it's easier for me to take a deeper breath also.

Gradually over the last 8 visits and the various exercises she's given me, I went from 0 percent to 100 percent.

Think of it like this, when we have an injury the fascia can get tighter and if we don't get it taken care of the fascia can wind further and it can get tighter and tighter and spread...

Post Edited (almost medfree) : 6/9/2015 9:40:44 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/10/2015 4:16 AM (GMT 0)
Was this your obg? Is there a way to tell you're tight? Unfortunately I don't think that's my cause, but can't hurt to ask.
If that is your cause, that's so awesome! Are the fibro symptoms going away then?
Posted 6/10/2015 9:27 AM (GMT 0)
Hi phlx, I wouldn't say my fibro symptoms have gone away but I feel as if they've improved somewhat. My PT doctor gave me exercises to do at home: First was the big belly blows, then the lazy frog, now I'm doing what I call the skinny jeans exercise. These were all prescribed by her and I have more appointments in the weeks ahead. It's very interesting. But the exercises wouldn't have been enough. She also works at stretching the area when I'm in her office.

Here is an interesting link that speaks about hypertonic muscles which she said I have:

http://www.richmondphysio.co.uk/what-is-womens-health-physiotherapy

Here is a link that mentions fibromyalgia:

http://pelvichealing.com/Diagnoses/

We women are put through an awful lot physically.

Post Edited (almost medfree) : 6/10/2015 3:33:21 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/11/2015 2:54 AM (GMT 0)
Fascia is virtually everything in our bodies! It used to be called Ortho-Bionomy work back when I became certified in it. Fascia is by our muscles becomes our muscles wraps our organs and more! Light fascia movement can be done by anyone. I just helped a woman who broke both lower arm regions, at seperate times, this year. I found her fascia and moved my fingers with it, deriding and releasing. She said it was the best technique to help her so far.
I do it on myself in places I can reach, I should find a person who can do this for my shoulders once a month. Good reminder :)
Try looking up fascia release on YouTube
Posted 6/11/2015 5:29 AM (GMT 0)
For places you cannot reach, use a , well they say tennis ball or a foam roller...but these are too hard for me so i use a pool noodle and a stress ball?

Plus our physical therapist can releases fascia anywhere..
Posted 6/12/2015 1:36 AM (GMT 0)
Not all of us can afford monthly or weekly PT or massage, wish I could. I suggest YouTube for learning a version to use on yourself. It truly helps.
Blessings
Posted 6/12/2015 10:54 AM (GMT 0)
Thankfully my PT and OT appointments are covered by my health insurance.
Posted 6/13/2015 7:38 AM (GMT 0)
Hi almostmedfree
I have great insurance but it's limited to a certain amount of visits, how does yours continue to cover PT monthly?
Information and resources are always collected to file away for my or my Peers use.
Thanks!
Posted 6/13/2015 9:30 PM (GMT 0)
I go to a clinic, where I get chiro, ND treatment, hydrotherapy and acupuncture at reduced rates since my income is nowhere NEAR livable (I live w/my dad). If you are very very low income, you can try that.
Posted 6/14/2015 10:50 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Lucinda,

I go weekly. I do have a limited number of visits for each year. My PT doctor is aware of this. She told me that when I see the occupational therapist at her clinic (who does the same work on me and also checks my progress) that this is billed separately to my insurance.

If you go to a PT doctor, I hope you'll share with us how it's going.
Posted 6/14/2015 6:31 PM (GMT 0)
I see a PT doctor who charges a little less because I don't use health insurance. some are willing to do that because the paperwork they have to do is fairly intensive. I am swapping everything around right now so my bills are currently beyond what we can afford, but should be much less in the next month or two. The PT has been the most effective with the cranialsacral therapy as a second. My massage therapist was the one who suggested PT and I found a PT who doesn't just do exercise - he does alternative therapy as well designed to stimulate your muscles into forming alternative pathways. I think he's terrific.

There is a good article about cranialsacral therapy from the University of Minnesota here: http://www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu/explore-healing-practices/craniosacral-therapy

It has some additional references to foundations where you can find practitioners. I had this therapy break a flare for me one time. Can't promise that would always work, but it was great when it did. My therapist and I agreed that would be my primary focus, but she also does some manipulation/massage in bad areas as part of the appointment. This combination has been keeping me going to some extent.

I'm also seeing a doc who is working through my prescriptions and supplements and looking to reduce duplication/problems. So that should be going down price wise too. Fingers crossed that some of this should work.
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