Maybe our overall weakness and other fibro symptoms are caused from vaccines?

Hi Everyone,

I was reading a couple Dr. Mercola articles online. I realize he can be controversial but what he says in the following articles gives us something to think about:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/09/15/vaccine-related-shoulder-injuries.aspx?e_cid=20150915Z1_DNL_art_2&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art2&utm_campaign=20150915Z1&et_cid=DM85557&et_rid=1120442818

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/01/flu-vaccine-and-its-side-effects.aspx

Isn't it strange that our bodies became so sick and weak and our doctors can't figure out definite reasons why?

I'd like to know what you think.

Post Edited (almost medfree) : 9/17/2015 11:06:31 AM (GMT-6)

Anti-vaccine discussions divert the attention from scientific consensus, and place the focus on the untrained amateur. The anti-vaccine movement spreads through usually virulent rhetoric by celebrities, which enhances the questionable message through their recognition value. The CDC states on their website, “Like any medication, vaccines, can cause side effects. The most common side effects are mild. On the other hand, many vaccine-preventable disease symptoms can be serious, or even deadly.” Side effects are possible but rare, and vaccines are far safer now than in the mid-twentieth century.

Mercola has been warned multiple times by the FDA. They have warned the public that his products are "Not generally safe and effective" for treating the medical conditions he claims can be cured. His clinic is closed. He no longer treats patients, but maintains an active website as well as a flourishing mail order business.

Dr. Mercola might get more credence by the medical community as a reputable source if he did not manufacture and market widely-overstated and expensive cures. His credibility on most medical matters is considered weak, as he makes unsupported claims about a variety of items and their health-related benefits.

The following is from the website https://www.activistfacts.com/organizations/491-joseph-mercola-and-the-mercola-optimal-wellness-center/

On his website, Mercola warns about the supposed dangers of hair dryers, electric clocks, cell phones, electric razors, and microwaving food. And for every supposed problem, he sells a solution. Worried about radiation from your cell phone? Mercola will happily sell you his “blue tube” headset. Have herpes? Buy some of Mercola’s special coconut oil. Do you believe Mercola that traditional sunscreens are “loaded with toxic chemicals”? He’s got a “natural” sunscreen with green tea (only $15.97 for an eight-ounce bottle).

Some of Mercola’s stranger views? He says that some cancer can be cured with eggplant, that walking barefoot on “earthing” sheets reduces weight gain, and that taking daily doses of chlorella (which he sells) will help clear up “brain fog” by flushing heavy metals from the body.

The Williamette Week reported that Mercola gave nearly $30,000 to a 2013 campaign opposing the fluoridation of water in Portland, Oregon. The Week further relayed that “Mercola has questioned whether HIV causes AIDS, suggests that many cancers can be cured by baking soda, and warns parents not to vaccinate their children. He also says that animals are psychic.”

The following website will take you to a synopsis of his issues with being sanctioned by the state of Illinois.

http://www.casewatch.org/board/med/mercola/board_battle.shtml

Two gems from this page are:
Mercola said he had heard some authors state that there is a direct correlation with the number of flu shots one has and the incidence of Alzheimer's. He also suggested that the head of your local health department's vaccination program should be prosecuted for conspiracy to commit murder.

Mercola stated that neurostructural integration techinque (NST) would take care of 85% of most pain problems and listed 60 conditions for which people have claimed at least partial relief.

I think the question about vaccines causing health issues came from parents whose children were diagnosed with autism. I have an autistic nephew and his parents felt this was caused by vaccines since this illness rears its ugly head around 18 months of age. But this has been studied and studied and the conclusions keep coming back negative...vaccines are not the cause of autism.

Here is a link from the Center of Disease Control about this issue.

www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/topics.html

I can see where these thoughts about vaccines could "transfer" to other illnesses. But, as I said in my previous post, I was given vaccines starting back I. The late 1940's and so were millions of other children and we didn't hear of autism back then. So I think there could be something else causing this problem.

Luvs, I do think antibiotics are given out too frequently. Our bodies usually can handle most colds, flu, etc. but aren't given the chance. Consequently, because of heavy use of antibiotics, we now have super viruses and newer antibiotics need to be developed. This causes a major problem and people are dying because the viruses have built up an immunity to antibiotics.

Medicine is not an exact science and not everything is known about many illnesses but I'm very thankful for the medical care the is available. I would have died twice in my life if this care wasn't available. And only God knows if I would have died if I didn't get the vaccines available.

Sherrine

I was talking to my doctor not long ago, and he was one to often prescribe antibiotics as my children were growing up.

He's completely changed his view on that, and now says there's an overuse of them. As you said, Sherrine, there are now super viruses and newer antibiotics need to be developed. Eek!! That's pretty disturbing and a definite wake-up call to the medical community, as well as to the public.

I think that if researchers were 100% confident in Aluminum as a safe adjuvant, they would not be trying to find new adjuvants.  And it would be mighty difficult to put this in writing over at the CDC:  Aluminum has never been tested by the FDA for safety, but don't anyone worry, keep on getting your vaccines.  After all these decades the government is not going to admit to a possibly mistaken assumption.  Nor can they discourage vaccines.   They are painted into a corner. 


I think the polio argument is a distraction from the real point.  That point is: Could vaccines be bad in certain vulnerable individuals?

It reminds me of the FDA taking the migraine medication Midrin off of the market.  Midrin came on the market I believe in 1962.  Well before the FDA approval process was in place.  It's not going to be on the market again, unless someone wants to pay for safety trials for a med that is already a generic. It's critical to the FDA that it be proven safe.  But the vaccine adjuvant doesn't require safety tests?
That's right, the FDA only requires that vaccines are capable of producing a certain number of antibodies (titers), which is defined as “vaccine efficacy.” 
People better educated than I am are thinking about the possibilities.

Aluminum as an adjuvant in Crohn's diesease induction.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22235058

From the journal Lupus:  "On the other hand in a small minority of individuals vaccine can trigger the appearance of autoantibodies as documented by Vista et al.17 and Perdan-Pirkmajer et al.18"
Title: The spectrum of ASIA: ‘Autoimmune (Auto-inflammatory) Syndrome induced by Adjuvants’
http://m.lup.sagepub.com/content/21/2/118.full


This was published in "Lupus" in 2012:
Mechanisms of aluminum adjuvant toxicity and autoimmunity in pediatric populations.
[Adjuvant arthritis in rats has been demonstrated, but it seems that mice are not susceptible.]
Adjuvant arthritis can be induced in the rat by the injection of various bacterial cell walls or their components; however, the exact immunogen remains unknown. Recently, an autoantibody response to type II collagen was described not only in the collagen-induced arthritic model but in the adjuvant-induced disease as well. This response suggests that shared antigenic determinants exist between type II collagen and the responsible immunogen in the bacterial cell wall components.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6177558

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Vaccines and autoimmune diseases of the adult.
Skip to the discussion at the end, if you are not a skeptic. Skeptics may want to see the details.
http://www.discoverymedicine.com/Hedi-Orbach/2010/02/04/vaccines-and-autoimmune-diseases-of-the-adult/
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Biopersistence and Brain Translocation of Aluminum Adjuvants of Vaccines
published in Frontiers of Biology

Post Edited (Rockon) : 9/17/2015 10:24:08 PM (GMT-6)

I read the opposite about vaccine and autism. You can't really trust a government website to tell you the truth on that one. There was someone who spilled the beans or had documentation that the vaccines were tampered with. Found one. Here's a link stating the companies all admit it and that they knew it. http://www.naturalnews.com/047072_MMR_vaccine_autism_government_coverup.html

I often wonder if I got this dang fibro from some vaccine. Free clinic my parents took me to, or something. There is the mycoplasma infection theory, too.

One point seldom mentioned is the probability of genetic mutations from the sea of toxic chemicals we live in. That coupled with every square inch of our bodies in being bombarded with radio waves and the consequences of franken-food.

Since 25% of us will contract cancer in our lifetimes as well as a host of other conditions that are a result of cell mutation we may be passing our damaged chromosomes to our children who have fragile developing cells.

Thanks for sharing that, AndreM, it's so true.

Thanks for sharing Rockon, it gives us something to think about.