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Posted 6/14/2016 12:15 PM (GMT 0)
theargusreport.com/us-neuroscientist-says-exercise-is-a-noxious-stimulus-that-worsens-symptoms-of-mecfs/

Sounds like the earlier message: strengthening exercise is needed to maintain, but periodic breaks are needed to recover from oxygen debt.

Post Edited (Rockon) : 6/14/2016 6:20:51 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/18/2016 12:42 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, I just wanted to add, yes I agree. Sometimes exercise makes it worse.

A little over a year year ago , I was exercising everyday for Anouilh a month , Pilates, and went into a major flareup. I could not stand on my feet for even a minute. So no shower, no cooking,etc., it took about a year to gradually get on my feet more. When I would push to exercise , it only made my symptoms worse and bumped me further into flareup.

I have not mastered the balancing act with exercise but I am able to exercise some now. I'm staying away mostly Pilates because I have noticed a pattern with flareups after Pilates .

Also, I've been to several physical therapist and it always made me wors. I'm not saying that it won't help others , just didn't work for me. I believe i have the flexibility but need strength. I feel like the odd ball when others say physical therapy helps.
Posted 6/19/2016 2:12 AM (GMT 0)
When we were cold and rainy i could ride my indoor recumbent bike..i was able to work up to 15 minutes and handled it fine.

I got an injury and am having some myofascial therapy. Which really helps to reduce my pain levels.

This time of year, i am working in my gardens for exercise.. My therapist wants me to only do it in small segments..so i weed or prune for maybe 20 minutes at a time..

After the injury when i could not stay busy ..i got too weakened. So i have to move as much as possible to keep my strength up.

I read somewhere that fibro patients who are not exercising must start with minutes , and then rest..add a minute each day.

I have always been able to do stretches and some strengthening exercises.. On the floor..without that batch of exercise i get too stiff..

Many of the studies show short term additional pain with exercise, but a long term gain.

Each of us must know our own bodies and adapt from there, for me , i have to fit some form of exercise in each day or i get too weak.

I hate that weak feeling.. Its acceptable in a major flare but not day to day..

I feel sore and achy when i start new things , but i do feel stronger, so thats a trade off. I do listen to my muscles and back off as i need to.

After all, when i get inside , there s all the indoor stuff that needs time
Posted 6/19/2016 12:26 PM (GMT 0)
The key is that exercise has to be gentle exercise. Walking and swimming are gentle exercises that you could do. Yoga is also suggested for fibro patients. There is no way I could do a lot of aerobic exercise. I do have a walking in place video that incorporates a tiny bit of aerobics and that is enough for me.

I also garden as a form of exercise and generally will spend no more than thirty minutes at a time gardening. about three weeks ago I laid 40 bags of wet mulch and paid a huge price in pain. But it had to be done so.....

Cleaning is exercise too...any movement. When I clean my home I do it in segments and work a little and sit a little.

Pacing yourself is extremely important when it comes to any activity. And it's extremely important to keep moving to help maintain strength. Years ago I had major surgery and was told never to lift anything over 20 pounds so I haven't. Now, that's about all I can lift! Before that surgery, I used to move my piano...all by myself...to clean behind it during spring cleaning! Now moving the piano seat is heavy for me. You do get weaker when you can't use the muscles like we used to. It's a trade off...weakness or pain. I'll take a dose of weakness with some joy thrown in.

Sherrine
Posted 6/27/2016 6:49 PM (GMT 0)
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