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Posted 10/14/2010 7:16 PM (GMT 0)
idea  1. My son was robbed at knife point.

2. He had been on antidepresents and quit them about 1 month before symptoms began.

3. He never wanted pills in the first place/but when prescribed he did go back on and claims this never helped him. (he hates for me to say it -He would look a little better to me.) He says he didn't feel better.   And refuses anti-depresents.

4. He won't go anywhere without me.

 

Posted 10/14/2010 7:52 PM (GMT 0)
I think he needs counseling. If he refuses to go anywhere without you, then go with him. If he wants you to leave the room when you get there, assure him that you WILL be waiting for him so he knows you aren't going to leave him. It does sound like he has PTSD, but I am not a doctor. Has he been officially diagnosed with it? I think that needs to be addressed before worrying about the fibro diagnoses unless he has already been diagnosed with the latter. I know that trauma can bring on fibro in some cases, but simply having PTSD can cause almost all the same symptoms as fibro. I hope things work out for your son. I have have a son as well, and I can't imagine anything happening to him.
Posted 10/14/2010 8:24 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks, Yes I agree he is in desprate need of counceling. If not for depression or PTSD atleast for the fibro that has change dso many aspects of his life.

:( One BIG problem...He won't go.....:( :( :(

He has been diagnosed with fibro & cronic daily headaches.
And he says he doesn't want anybody to request counceling or antidepresants even every doctor has.
Posted 10/14/2010 9:26 PM (GMT 0)
Im sorry he wont go for counseling, because talking to someone about his problems can be a great stress reliever for him. It wont take away the pain but it will teach him how to deal with all the emotions that go with it. I hope you can talk him into it. I know I have been to counseling several times during my life and I found them to be very beneficial.
Gentle Hugs
Shirley
Posted 10/15/2010 4:41 AM (GMT 0)
Hi!

I'm sorry your son is having such a rough time. His denial is just another symptom of the depression. I admire your courage and what you are doing for your son. You see, I lost my 23 year old son to depression 10 years ago. He was an expert at hiding it from me and most others. But instead of letting me help once I found out what was going on he had already decided that living was too painful and ended it all.

The reason I'm sharing this is to help you know something you already are aware of...that what he's suffering is very real and can have horrific consequences. Even if he pushes you away, don't give up. He's counting on you being there even if he won't take your suggestions. I guess if I were in your shoes I'd force the issue of getting help and might even force him to go for inpatient care. I wish I had known sooner with my son and had a chance to step in and at least try. Do whatever you can even if you fear he won't love you afterwords.

As far as help in the Pittsburgh area (answering your other post here)...I'm in Washington state and hubby was born and spend his first 10 years just outside of Pittsburgh. But that was ages ago. One thing you might try is a university/teaching hospital. There you get the most advanced and current treatments. In your area there are several you could try. Just give them a call and let them know what kind of help you are looking for. In the Chronic Pain 101 thread at the top of the listings, there is a link for university hospitals around the workd. Hope this helps...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_university_hospitals

Chutz
Posted 10/18/2010 2:38 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Chutz,

I am so sorry about your son.

It has been very difficult to respond to you because I think there is a good chance for me to end up in the same situation regardless of which route I take.

My husbands family has an extensive history of suicide. These were all male. I have let all of my sons doctors know that even my husbands brother had ended his life.

I have been trying for years and I will never give up. I have been surrounded by idiots in the health system and they have made getting help very difficult. I am east of Pittsburgh ...he has been to 2 local ERs threatening to kill himself saying there in nobody who can help him and that it is just to painful to live like this-I can't do this anymore.

But when they directly ask... Do you have a plan to end your life? Are you going to harm yourself? He responds with no...(he doesn't want to get stuck in a hospital. Blood tests and IVs are extremely difficult for him)

Instead of admitting him they would tell him to come in for outpatient mental health services and he will not do that!

After being at both of these local hospitals I decided the next time he is serious enough to be admitted for any reason we will venture out to the big city "Pittsburgh" where surely they can help. (he has a neurologist there anyway.) On two occasions he was admitted once for his chronic headache and once for severe stomach pain which they were thinking could have been Chrons.(but wasn't) I had asked for scych consult and once again given someplace different to take him...Where he would not willing go.

I am setting up an appointment with a more reputable psychiatrist in Greensburg today. He has a lawyer who said he needs to go for an evaluation to help his claim for SSI. (I hope and pray that this is a blessing in disguise)

I hope he is willing to go and that there is somebody there who cares enough to help him.

I have started to see depression as any other illness like heart disease or cancer. I have explained to my son how if grandma would refuse to take her heart medicine she could get very sick or even die. I know he won't take antidepressents.

I have some other things going on right now...My youngest child has been very ill all weekend and I really don't have time to be on the computer.

Thanks for your help and concern and I would be greatful for any prayers on his behalf
Posted 10/18/2010 4:00 PM (GMT 0)
Oh, what a thing to have to go through! I will be praying for you both.

Debbie
Posted 10/18/2010 5:37 PM (GMT 0)
Hi again sonhas.  Honestly I have been there.  I rode in the backseat holding my brothers hand with my mom driving.  He was having a meltdown really bad, staring straight ahead and shaking.   We took him to Upper St Claire Hosp to try to get him admitted for some kind of treatment.  They evaluated him and agreed that he did indeed need help and sent us somewhere down town pgh to a psych hosp.  To this day I have no idea how we got him there but we went.  They piddled around and after 3 hours in a crappy waiting area he was ready to go home so we left.

My cousin at the age of 18 ended it all also over a med change for depression.

Sherrine and Chutz are both better at putting into words what they mean than I am but they gave you some great advice!!

Posted 10/24/2010 2:06 AM (GMT 0)
THANKS FOR YOUR PRAYERS

My son set up an appointment with a therpist and a psychitrist,

I am hoping they are good. And that they will help.

Thanks Again, I let you know how it goes...And I will continue to pray that he gets help.
Posted 10/24/2010 2:53 AM (GMT 0)
Great news!!!!  Please keep us updated.
Posted 10/24/2010 9:46 PM (GMT 0)
SHF,

I'm so glad your son is going for these appointments. Hopefully, this is the turnaround we have all been praying for for him and for you. Maybe he is ready to deal w/ this, and I say that is due to your love and care for him. Maybe what you have shared w/ him from the forum lets him he see there is hope and it is time to try. I pray these drs are the right ones to help him help himself.

You have both been on my mind so much the past few days. I have been praying for you both and I will continue to keep you both in my prayers. And yes, pls keep us in the loop, we all want this to work for him. He is so lucky to have you for his mother!!

God bless.  Alice.

Posted 10/25/2010 1:25 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks so much Alice and GSDgirl you are all awesome.
Posted 10/26/2010 12:40 PM (GMT 0)
Well, Son went to therpist...On the way home he said that if he had to go back ...that wouldn't be so bad.
Then he spent all evening telling me...You're going to make me go back there...You're
going to be on my back everyday about going back there. Meanwell, I was saying that going back is his choice. The doc. told him that returning is up to him. She really seems to be very nice and good at her job ( I Hope)....I think I would enjoy going to talk to her myself.
Maybe I'll spend part of my day thinking about if she could help me and my younger girls deal with the effect that Sons illness has had on us and our freedom.
He does have an appointment with shrink in late Nov. but if he would get more time with the theripist it would help the other guy know more about him.
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