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Posted 6/19/2011 8:39 AM (GMT 0)
"I wanted to answer Ziffle - not in a bad way.

ZiffleRick, you wanted to know what I wanted from the forum.

Its simple - to talk, learn and at this point I can only take - I cannot give. I dont like only taking - which is why I drift into trying to give (or have done in the past).

You have no need to worry - I am not just here to enjoy myself. I dont enjoy it - I have had a year of grief from you and david.

I am nowhere near as symptomatic as you were in your picture around the time of your diagnosis. My symptoms are there - but I have not yet lost muscle mass (noticeably).

You say if you had not gone to get sorted out - you would be dead now - that situation is not mine. If I were to get any where near close to where you were - even slightly losing mass - I would KNOW IN MY HEAD I had to go - so effectively I would infact get treated before you did in terms of the disease progress.

I live by the things on here - my diet, my keeping an eye on myself, I weigh myself and write it down daily, I avoid foods, I have taken advice not to do things like dandelion, as of yesterday I am now thinking of dropping milk thistle because of a thread here, I have learned a lot about the way the NHS treats people, the list is endless - you already know I quit drinking 100%.

I do not give medical advice - period - I simply dont. I rarely ask either - because it goes down badly. But I have a thousand questions - you dont know the half of it - but YOU stop me asking (and david) - effectively cutting off my supply of valuable information - just because I cant bring myself to go to the doctor.

I do not put people in danger - in the slightest.

I thought your post had some fair questions in it - I hope you see things from my perspective - even if you dont agree.
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Post Edited By Moderator (hep93) : 6/19/2011 10:32:01 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/19/2011 9:42 AM (GMT 0)
You see Mr. E , You are making your own problem here in this forum and in respect to your life . Think about it in this context : If you simply quit dithering about and go to a doctor get the required test done you would have saved yourself alot of grief , Well at least a years worth anyhow . You have listened to a years worth of not only Rick and David but many others here , All treated you with respect from the onset but it doesn't take a P.H.D to figure out you simply refuse to listen . How many times must you hear the same words repeated for it to sink in ? You have heard those words spoken in a voice of concern , Empathy and honesty to a point of exhausting even a saints patience . You have been treated coldly for one reason and one reason only . Your lack of will power . Ask one person here what the first step to getting your health in order is . I will make it easy , See a doctor and find out if you have any problems that need to be addressed specifically other than routine maintenance . You have chosen a path around that and come here regularly to let us know you are exactly where you were a year ago but just a bit more internet wise . Mr. E you are not speaking to children and we all know what your problem is and it isn't with any specific members of this forum , It's you . You sir are your biggest enemy and you waste valuable time dancing around that issue . How would you feel if you met a stranger and out of the kindness of your heart you offered him half of your sandwich because he claimed he was hungry . This stranger takes the sandwich half , takes a bite spits it out and stomps the sandwich in the ground and demands a slice of pizza . That stranger is you , That Samaritan is this forum and the sandwich is our collective knowledge base amongst the members here . Argue the metaphor if you like but it is how alot of us feel here . I wish I could find the words to stir you up and help you regain your senses but I fear for you it would fall on deaf ears .
Do you realize that my symptoms occurred in a span of 2 days . I had no clue nothing was wrong medically , In 3 days I was incapacitated , drooling like a baby , Craping on myself and hallucinating . That is potentially what you could be up against and honestly that may well be my destiny again just prior to transplantation , Do you think I enjoy that thought ? Do you think I would wish that on a enemy ( I don't have one ) let alone a stranger . Yes I am angry with you but I don't hate you and if you stepped back and viewed David in the light of what I have said about suffering through this disease you would see a different man in him . I see David as a confidant and a good hearted guy , Mick also for that matter .
I didn't intend this reply to linger on but hopefully you will do the right thing and get checked out , I cannot and will not promise to ease up on you and nor will I stop wishing in my heart for you to get better .

A. Ziffle
Posted 6/19/2011 10:26 AM (GMT 0)
Your accuracy in this matter is summed up completely when you say I have no willpower.

Trust me - ex smokers, ex drinkers, my own company for 10 years - takes a lot of willpower - I am all three of those.

No - sorry ziffle - whilst I respect your problems and your advice - I fail to see why you should carry on with your petty attacks - but dont worry - I too will retaliate at you when I see fit to do so.

I do not ask for respect - only courtesy.
I do not (can not) help people medically - but can in EVERY other respect.
I certainly dont look down on people (not just me) in the way you do.


I'll see you on the beach.
(Saving Private Ryan)

4. No posts that attack, insult, "flame", defame, or abuse members or non-members. Respect other members of the community and don’t belittle, make fun off, or insult another member or non-member. Decisions about health and well-being are highly personal, individual choices. "Flaming" and insults, however, will not be tolerated. Agree to disagree. This applies to both the forums and chat.

Post Edited By Moderator (Pink Grandma) : 6/19/2011 6:25:44 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/19/2011 12:03 PM (GMT 0)
Hello Mr E ,Once again Mr E you've commited yourself to throwing insults at Rick and David . It seems to me all the angst is coming only from you. I firmly believe you should apologise to both David and Rick . Feel free at any time to do so. Until then Mr E have a nice day.
Michael Kelly
Posted 6/19/2011 12:21 PM (GMT 0)
I see the angst coming from all sides.....I don't think anyone on this forum is enjoying this. No one needs to apologize all involved just need to be respectful and if not happy with what they read ignore it and not reply.

This forum is about support and lately it seems to be about something else all together.
Posted 6/19/2011 12:42 PM (GMT 0)
Please, no more insults Mr E.........If you can't have a disagreement without getting upset and name calling please refrain from posting to the offending individual.

While it's okay to disagree it's the manner in which it it done that keeps going astray..........Please put the person who upsets you on ignore.

We can not keep doing this........no more insults or attacks. Please keep all posts supportive .....If it's not supportive.........either don't post or take it to email....
Posted 6/19/2011 12:59 PM (GMT 0)
I dont think Mr E should have been singled out for a reprimand. I think all involved should be told to stop carrying on with this.....
Posted 6/19/2011 1:58 PM (GMT 0)
I really that it takes two to tangle but it was Mr E. calling names this time.....I have reprimanded the others for this same thing before......All please be respectful of each other. Keep it positive or please don't post it on the forum.
Posted 6/19/2011 2:08 PM (GMT 0)
I always find it comforting to know that Hepmom will give Mr.E the support he needs , She must have a high pain threshold . Her courage to remain level headed while thwarting off anyone who may disagree vehemently with Mr. E is in my opinion to be admired by all , Who but her could manage to devote so much time and effort to the cause of Helping others and spend so much time defending one man all at once . Surely she is worthy of a Nobel peace prize for her efforts alone in mending relations here . I say if nothing else make her a moderator or at least a professional veteran of council . Least should we forget balancing two children and a personal life . Can we see about having a national Hepmom day at the minimum ?

Face it , Even if she want pat herself on the back I feel obligated to do so . She has taught me to be a better man ,by way of her unwavering support of people all others have cast aside in shear callousness . By the Gods she will prevail one man at a time if need be until the world is one big happy melting pot of her love and kindness . Time is no concern to her , A year is but a second and if it takes years she will stand by a weary mentally tormented soul . She has no fear of Death because she in my beliefs can resurrect them and to prop them up and fight another day . She is a crutch indeed , You my lady are rare and don't you ever forget that . Your humble man servant and ever present admirer .


Mr. Arnold Ziffle - P.B.E
( P.B.E Professor of Bovine Excrement )
Posted 6/19/2011 2:45 PM (GMT 0)
LOL - and I get spanked - look at the state of that ^^^

David and Rick attack anyone who is remotely different from them - not just me - need proof - just LOOK AT THE STATE OF THE WAY RICK IS ATTACKING HEPMOM.

Hepmom - dont worry about me !! - I can handle these two no problem.

Even after a MOD calls time he launches a sarcastic attack.
Posted 6/19/2011 2:47 PM (GMT 0)

PinkGrandma - sorry can you point out where I was name calling above?  I cant find it.

 

Pink Grandma said...
Please, no more insults Mr E.........If you can't have a disagreement without getting upset and name calling please refrain from posting to the offending individual.

While it's okay to disagree it's the manner in which it it done that keeps going astray..........Please put the person who upsets you on ignore.

We can not keep doing this........no more insults or attacks. Please keep all posts supportive .....If it's not supportive.........either don't post or take it to email....

Posted 6/19/2011 2:50 PM (GMT 0)
Pinkgrandma - I agree in principle regarding ignore - however - with attacks against me becoming more frequent - I cant afford to ignore them using the system.

Can you see where I am coming from ?

They would just continue with their filth and I would be blind to it.
Posted 6/19/2011 3:08 PM (GMT 0)
Do not argue . He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

I've been guilty of ignoring the above saying. From now on, I'm going to stick with helping people who want to be helped. Attention seeking behavior will not be acknowledged by me.

Post Edited By Moderator (Pink Grandma) : 6/19/2011 12:43:21 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/19/2011 3:09 PM (GMT 0)
Dearest Mr. E , The only thing I can suppose is that you mistook my comment on not letting up on you as being a attack . It was merely stating that I will continue to respectfully disagree with you on the grounds of your hopeless situation . My deepest and sincere apologies if it was taken otherwise .

In reference to the comments to Hepmom it was a display of my deepest admiration as best I could in literary form . I sincerely meant every word I said , She is a shining beacon in a sea of darkness and I am apologetic if it offended you or her .


Hugs '
A. Ziffle
Posted 6/19/2011 3:11 PM (GMT 0)
Hey up - now I am an "IDIOT" - how many times have you said that you would ignore me from now on david?
You never do - you cant help the snide remarks.

And Im namecalling?????
Posted 6/19/2011 3:19 PM (GMT 0)
Look at Rick now - the sarcasm is running so thick it sticks to my screen - and he carries on!! layering it even more!!!
This is incredible. I am gobsmacked at how these two can be allowed to carry on with these utter insults. I have never seen anything like it on any forum before in my 12 years working online.

They cannot and will not stop. They ALWAYS instigate it - 100% ALWAYS. It is totally clear.

Just get off my back.
Posted 6/19/2011 4:40 PM (GMT 0)

I am locking this thread and please do not start any more of its kind!  Everyone has stated their feelings and beliefs.  NO MORE!!

Connie

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