Constant Burping, gassy feeling in stomach and tender small intestine.

I had similar symptoms and was diagnosed with sibo via breath test.

I don't think I've beaten it yet. I'm a bit better, but still have symptoms.

Typical protocols are herbal and specialized antibiotics. I've tried both...and may have to do another round.

It's been a long road.

Hi Hoshie,

Yeah I see what you mean.

I think it's probably worth addressing the root cause as well.

Stomach acid and bile basically sterilise the upper gut so I don't think there's a pill that will cure long term. Also, slow motility causes SIBO.

My recommendation to you and this is what I'm doing is to take interphase before a meal. This stimulates stomach juice, bile and speeds up digestion. Also, 1-2 betaine HCL pills with meals will probably help as well. Then after a while take some probiotics

I think this is helping me but I really need to start either an antibiotic or herbal antibiotic to wipe some of these bad guys out.

I'm still waiting on organic acids results to see if I have yeast overgrowth which I hope I don't have.

Liam

just curious.......how do you tell if it's your small intestine? I'm usually thinking my pains are in my colon, but supposedly I have a small small bowel intussusception and I get pain where I thought my colon was, but maybe it's my small bowel. Hard to tell.

Hi all,

So for anyone who is following this or comes across this in the future I got my organic acids test results back.

Main things:

Arabinose was above reference range indicating yeast in small intestine. Tartaric was 0 though which was good.

Hippurate was quite high but not above reference range.

DHPPA (friendly bacteria) was very very low, 0.02 nearly out of zone on the lower end.

Really low vitamin C, really low B5 and B6. B2 and B12 were fine as well as glutathione.

There was another marker which was high for bacteria overgrowth but it wasn't directly under the bacteria markers so not sure what to make of that one.

Also, my seratonin was very low. Again, i heard this can be due to dysbiosis/ lack of friendly bacteria. My cortisol levels were high and it said vitamin C can help with this.

Therefore, combined with my positive test for urine indican it seems I have dysbiosis / lack of friendly bacteria. Especially in intestines (small).

The test also recommended I have a toxic metals sample done which I am going to have as I have a few amalagam fillings, one of which (a really large one that wraps round one of my back molars), I kind of think little symptoms started after this but I am just speculating. Let's see if this shows any mercury.




Therefore, to conclude it seems I have destroyed my good bacteria in my small intestine through a combination of constant stress, intense workouts at the gym after eating large lunches, very poor diet (i basically only used to eat refined carbs - huge amounts (600-700g of pasta with sauce for dinner - EVERYDAY!), no vegetables whatsoever, large amounts of sugar, beer and alcohol (binging - not everyday) and probably other things. 5-6 coffees a day at least. Basically when I read about gut health I done everything in the 'not to do' section to excess.


My protocol is now going to be the following;

1.) Boost immune system:
- Vitamin C (will take 2g a day)
- B vitamin complex
- Zinc and vitamin d (heard these help with yeast/candida).
- Milk Thistle and Broccomax for liver support - I sometimes get liver pain and these take the pain away!! They help the liver to detoxify so I will take at least 2 or 3 of these a day. Especially when I start the probiotics below.

2.) Heal and support gut:
- I am going to be drinking 2 x protein shakes made with homemade kefir. Kefir has trillions of beneficial lactic producing bacteria and the protein shake has lactoferrin, immunoglobins, amino acids etc, huge amounts of glutamine and BCAAs. These will be perfect for gut health. I know this is an issue for people who are intolerant to dairy but if you're not I think this is a very important add on.

3.) Will take antimicrobial/antifungal supps:
- Will take Grapefruit seed extract and cinnamon tea and coconut oil to displace any bad bacteria/yeast.
- I believe if you boost your immune system and gut these will sort themselves out.
- I might take some betaine hcl sometimes with lunch. My stool test showed fat and protein absorption was fine but I might take these just to kill off any yeast just in case.

4.) Probiotics
- When I have taken good probiotics they do give me gut discomfort but looking back on it I think this is a sign of them working. I have seen a new probiotic using an exciting new technology. They are called Naturewise and I have contacted them a few times and they said the probiotics will help replenish bacteria in my small intestine. They have great info on their website and their probiotics are proven to survive through the stomach acid and bile and fluctuating PHs. They are delayed release to ensure they populate the whole intestines rather than just a dump as is the case for encapsulated powdered probiotics. It's definitely true that all of these die when they hit your stomach acid. They release over 2-10 hours.

She also told me that when I start taking the probiotics, I will likely have digestive distress for up to two weeks as the probiotics fight the pathogenic bacteria and yeast, basically scraping it off the walls. I really appreciate the honesty from this company rather than companies saying they are safe and completely symptomless. It reminds me off my mother putting ointment on bees stings and I would scream 'it hurts' and she would say 'that means it's working'. I think this is the same idea for these probiotics hopefully.

I should recieve these today and I am going to take 1 at night and maybe one in the morning. They recommend taking 1 a day but I might take two a day during the first week. I'll update any improvements likely after a month or two to give them a chance to work.


5.) Mecury/Hair Mineral Test:
I am going to get a hair mineral test, mainly to check for any aluminium. If this comes up very high then I am going to strive to get my amalgam fillings removed as I don't eat much fish and I have an office job so I wouldn't say I am overly exposed to aluminium.

6.) De-stress:
I am going to start strength training in the gym, especially squats, to boost testosterone.

Also I am probably going to start going for weekly or fortnightly massages for head and neck. As I get this stiff/anxious neck quite a lot. My organic acids test showed my cortisol/stress levels are high, even though i'm just chilling and my serotonin levels are low. I kind of need to get happy again.



I believe I am going to feel quite crap over the next month/two months implementing all of this. However, I am going to try and offset this by using the whey protein, vitamin c, milk thistle etc, zinc. Also things like ground flaxseed which I use for breakfast and I might start adding into my protein as well. This is fibre that helps sweep the intestines of c**p. Also, i've started eating a lot more vegetables.

Will give you all an update on my general feeling and burping in two months time.

I might give an interim update based on the hair mineral test.

Bless you all.

Hi Maarten,

I've improved a lot since posting. Still not 100% but definitely a lot better.

What i found that really helped was running in the morning on an empty stomach, running and exercising as much as possible. Also, just eating and having a good time.

I've started drinking coffee again and having much larger portions.

I've started drinking alcohol and i really feel like rum and coke and brandy and coke help quite a bit. I don't know if it's the quite clean alcohol killing the bacteria or whatever.

I really doubt yours is bacteria.

You do mention the lower small intestines, this might be bacteria but i'm not sure.

I also got a standing desk at work, this has made the symptoms much better. Sitting down and being sluggish wont help.

The gastroenterologist explained it really well to me, he said it's basically nerve damage to the nerves in the stomach and upper small intestine. These control how food is 'mashed' and how gas is propelled through the small intestine. At the moment these aren't functioning properly therefore you burp more and feel more discomfort. Therefore, it's a functional disorder.

I totally agree with what he said, all my bacteria markers come out negative.

The sooner you accept it the sooner you will get better.

Please let me know if you have any questions or anything.


I would say i'm about 60% better since posting.

Oh and all the supplements were a waste of time and money and swallowing effort.

Yeah, I definitely don't have celiac, the amount of bread and wheat products I eat.

This all started after a bad acid rebound from stopping Omeprazole. I think it is nerve damage / irritable small bowel/irritable stomach syndrome.

Hi,

If you can trace back to an event like this than it’s most likely irritable stomach.

It should settle down with time. Just relax and have faith in your body.

I’m much better but I still have symptoms everyday.

Regards,

Liam

Hoshie,

You sound exactly how I used to act. If every test is coming back fine than you are fine.

I remember I had a urine ‘indican’ test which came back positive and I was so happy because it says it’s bacteria in your gut bla bla. My doctor was like did you eat a big protein meal in the evening (btw 25g+ protein in one meal is a lot) then it will come out positive.

He also said if 10 people had a urine test then 6 out of 10 will test positive for Candida and dysbiotic markers. But they’re fine.

Seriously, if it’s burping it’s just your stomachs ability to handle gas.

It unfortunate you’ve talked about anxiety and depression.

Let me tell you the two best things that helped me.

Running in the morning on an empty stomach.
Standing desk at work. If you have indigestion/burping, sitting down all day will delay recovery.

Yep, mine was similar. Acid hypersecretion from stopping Omeprazole after a stag do. Worst possible situation. Absolute nightmare.

I can truly say I’ll never ever use any drugs from doc again unless I’m definitely going to die if I don’t.

Hey yeah I researched it.

I had a blood test it was negative.

I had a gastroendoscopy and the gastro doc said I definitely don’t have it.

The amount of bread and carbs I eat I know I don’t have it.