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Posted 4/25/2017 9:11 PM (GMT 0)
Hi everyone,

I am Robert. In the past year, I found several times bright red blood stripe the one side surface of my stool. I went to see a doctor for this. The doctor did sigmoidoscopy and found nothing. As bleeding continued (not so often, about two to three continuous days per month), I went to see doctor again. This time he gave a anoscopy and found hemorrhoids.

However, recently I noticed that there are usually some small, thin, hard, star-like stool, which constituted the front end of a big stool. It is very hard to describe the shape of the star-like stool. It looks like they formed when the stool pass through a narrow and star-shaped tube.

My question is: Are small star-like stool normal or do they resulted from a serious condition like colon cancer?

Thanks so much!
Posted 4/26/2017 12:46 AM (GMT 0)
This might not be particularly helpful, as I can't directly answer that question. But, I've been having a similar looking stool as of late and I have no idea what is going on. I don't know that I describe it as having any particular shape, but the overall appearance seems to lack solidity and kind of looks like pulled pork (sorry for the gross analogy).

Can anyone confirm that the pics above are within the range of a normal BM? To me it seems to be approaching the state of diarrhea. I keep having BMs like this almost every time when I rarely if even used to before taking an antibiotic some months ago.

My question for you Robert, is have you been on any prescription drugs in the past year? When you have these BMs, does it feel like passing diarrhea?
Posted 4/26/2017 1:04 AM (GMT 0)
I did not take any prescription in recent years. It is not diarrhea. They are small pieces of hard stool. Very hard. They are part of the head of the big, thick stool, which came out first during bowel movement.

For you, if it is diarrhea, does the stool have a shape? I though only solid stool can have a shape.
Posted 4/26/2017 2:14 AM (GMT 0)

robertle said...
I did not take any prescription in recent years. It is not diarrhea. They are small pieces of hard stool. Very hard. They are part of the head of the big, thick stool, which came out first during bowel movement.

For you, if it is diarrhea, does the stool have a shape? I though only solid stool can have a shape.

It does have shape, it is what I call semi-solid, it can easily fall apart and is quite mushy. For me, that isn't normal (or never used to be). But I am seeing other similarities. I noticed that you can see some particles within your stool. Little white, or red specs. I've noticed the same in mine. Never used to see that kind of thing myself. I actually saw a big piece of celery in mine that had not seemed to break down at all when going through me. Tell me, do you notice if the main part of the stool looks "ragged" while underwater?

You say this is hard, so is it difficult to pass? Like as with constipation? Or just hard when you dissected it? I would imagine that the oldest portion of the stool would likely be the hardest, as it has set inside of you for the longest period of time. When people become constipated it is because it has sat inside of them for so long that it starts hardening. How long do you normally wait between bathroom trips? Maybe you aren't completely finishing up before you move on? So then some is left to wait until the next time?

I'm no expert. I too have been diagnosed as "possibly" having internal hemorrhoids. All I'm having is rectal discomfort and itching, no bleeding. I've yet to read anything on how hemorrhoids would effect the shape and consistency of stool. I wouldn't imagine that they could. Personally I'm blaming a drug called ciprofloxocin for messing my gut up and likely being the culprit for my weird stool.

Post Edited (needsomehelp22) : 4/25/2017 8:25:50 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/27/2017 2:42 AM (GMT 0)
I think the small particles are probably undigested food. The stool that came out first was usually big and had a shape, followed by soft and loose stool. I usually have bowel movement every morning, the stool is not difficult to pass. I feel it was hard when I dissected it, compared with the stool that came out later. I agree with you that the oldest stool is the hardest. Although I have bowel movement every day, I believe the hard stool stays in my body for more than one or two days. I know hemorrhoid can lead to itching. How is your rectal discomfort? I have searched online for a similar stool you mentioned. Did your stool look like the second stool picture in the link? (http://www.myjourneywithcandida.com/2012/01/parasite-cleanse-number-5-getting-out.html)
It is parasite?
Posted 4/27/2017 4:09 AM (GMT 0)

robertle said...
I think the small particles are probably undigested food. The stool that came out first was usually big and had a shape, followed by soft and loose stool. I usually have bowel movement every morning, the stool is not difficult to pass. I feel it was hard when I dissected it, compared with the stool that came out later. I agree with you that the oldest stool is the hardest. Although I have bowel movement every day, I believe the hard stool stays in my body for more than one or two days. I know hemorrhoid can lead to itching. How is your rectal discomfort? I have searched online for a similar stool you mentioned. Did your stool look like the second stool picture in the link? (http://www.myjourneywithcandida.com/2012/01/parasite-cleanse-number-5-getting-out.html)
It is parasite?

I haven't had any like that, thankfully. Mine looks more like what you find when you search candida stool.

Like this - http://i47.tinypic.com/15nq6tt.jpg

I've also seen substances like this floating on the water - https://candidahub.com/img/Candida-In-Stool-4.jpg

This discomfort I was talking about is kind of difficult to explain, but it feels like swelling of the anus, or kind of like something sticking out, but nothing is there. It makes sitting uncomfortable. It feels like I would imagine a hemorrhoid would feel, but again there's nothing there, and no bleeding. I'm thinking for me it's a candida overgrowth in my system that was triggered by taking antibiotics. That might explain all of my symptoms but I'm not positive.

Have you tried taking a fiber supplement?
Posted 4/28/2017 1:57 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Robertle,
First, how old are you? Have you ever had a colonoscopy? I would have thought your doc would have preferred an colonoscopy. Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but I get the feeling you should try a different doctor.
There are lots of non-cancerous things that can cause funky stools.

What did your doc say you should do? He was a gastroenterologist, right?
Posted 4/28/2017 1:52 PM (GMT 0)

needsomehelp22 said...

robertle said...
I think the small particles are probably undigested food. The stool that came out first was usually big and had a shape, followed by soft and loose stool. I usually have bowel movement every morning, the stool is not difficult to pass. I feel it was hard when I dissected it, compared with the stool that came out later. I agree with you that the oldest stool is the hardest. Although I have bowel movement every day, I believe the hard stool stays in my body for more than one or two days. I know hemorrhoid can lead to itching. How is your rectal discomfort? I have searched online for a similar stool you mentioned. Did your stool look like the second stool picture in the link? (http://www.myjourneywithcandida.com/2012/01/parasite-cleanse-number-5-getting-out.html)
It is parasite?

I haven't had any like that, thankfully. Mine looks more like what you find when you search candida stool.

Like this - http://i47.tinypic.com/15nq6tt.jpg

I've also seen substances like this floating on the water - https://candidahub.com/img/Candida-In-Stool-4.jpg

This discomfort I was talking about is kind of difficult to explain, but it feels like swelling of the anus, or kind of like something sticking out, but nothing is there. It makes sitting uncomfortable. It feels like I would imagine a hemorrhoid would feel, but again there's nothing there, and no bleeding. I'm thinking for me it's a candida overgrowth in my system that was triggered by taking antibiotics. That might explain all of my symptoms but I'm not positive.

Have you tried taking a fiber supplement?

I have never tried a fiber supplement. You can see a doctor for an anascopy. The hemorrhoid is easy to be diagnosed.
Posted 4/28/2017 2:52 PM (GMT 0)

CathyA said...
Hi Robertle,
First, how old are you? Have you ever had a colonoscopy? I would have thought your doc would have preferred an colonoscopy. Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but I get the feeling you should try a different doctor.
There are lots of non-cancerous things that can cause funky stools.

What did your doc say you should do? He was a gastroenterologist, right?

Thanks for replying. I am 36 years old male. I have never had a colonoscopy before.

My gastroenterologist first gave me a Fecal occult blood test. The result was negative. Then he said I only need to do a sigmoidoscopy. He found nothing by that. Not even hemorrhoid. He said he will not do a colonoscopy for someone only have one time bleeding.

One month later, I found blood on stool surface again. I went to see him. He gave me an anoscopy and found hemorrhoids. He suggested me to take more fiber food and if hemorrhoid could not be recovered, I can also consider a procedure to remove it. He said I did not need to do a colonoscopy as the hemorrhoid was found and the chance for me to get a colon cancer is very low at my age. He asked whether I have any change of bowel habit and some other things. I said I didn't found any obvious change.

After that, I found blood on the stool a few times. Not so often, one or two times each month. Each time, it happened in one or two continuous days. The bleeding usually comes with big and dry stool. Sometimes, I can only found blood on one side of the stool. Sometimes the blood can also be found on the paper or toilet. But these symptoms can not distinguish cancer and hemorrhoid. Is that right?

I have just recently noticed a weird stool shape. But I haven't talked about this with my doctor yet.

I know my chance may be low. But that doesn't mean that I can not get it. My previous workplace had an X-ray machine just upstairs without proper protection for the downstairs room. I am a bit worried that the x-ray may damage my body.
Posted 4/29/2017 12:51 AM (GMT 0)
Usually, if the blood is bright red, it is from hemorrhoids. When you have bleeding from higher up in the intestines, it's usually very dark....almost black.
Do you have any family history of colon cancer?
Posted 4/29/2017 11:25 PM (GMT 0)

CathyA said...
Usually, if the blood is bright red, it is from hemorrhoids. When you have bleeding from higher up in the intestines, it's usually very dark....almost black.
Do you have any family history of colon cancer?

One of my uncle has colon cancer after 60.
Posted 4/30/2017 3:33 AM (GMT 0)
Those smaller pieces happen BC whatever you ate digested into small bits of waste that were not moved along the tract much until your body digested enough food at once to create a bigger amount that spanned the width of your intestines. Thus collecting the smaller bits or "balls" and forcing them out.

Your intestines are controlled by muscles that contract and move things along. The less being digested the slower it moves thru which is why you generally see lots of little pieces together
Posted 5/24/2017 4:12 PM (GMT 0)
Wow this is exactly like me. Have you heard anything new?
Posted 8/29/2017 2:27 AM (GMT 0)

YoungSuffererCanada said...
Wow this is exactly like me. Have you heard anything new?


Haven't found an answer yet.
Posted 8/29/2017 11:29 PM (GMT 0)

YoungSuffererCanada said...
Wow this is exactly like me. Have you heard anything new?


Have you figured it out?
Posted 4/10/2018 5:50 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Yes Rob man i too have had this star shape twice.. It looked just like yours.. it reminds me of those icing extruders.. iv been sick for well over a year now.. i went to get an colonoscopy but chickened out, worried that if it was cancer they would start cutting on it and make it worse, so i decided not to do it, as my old friend had this done and then in 6 months he was dead with colon cancer, DO TO TREATMENT..

Neways i was wanting to know if you have figured this out yet.. iv found a few google photos of this star shaped stool and all of them looked the same.. 100% the same, its weird that if this is normal or happens more often then someone would know what the heck it is.. ugh.. im dealing with antiboitic sickness, i was on cipro for 6 months.. it has almost killed me..

Iv searched for months and it seems this can either be from diverticuli though all the photos of it show them to be a round nicely smooth hole.. not star shaped.. so i also thought maybe a tumor blocking the large intestine, but now that iv found many other photos of the same star shape im kinda confused and lost as to what this is.. Its not hemroids that for sure..

And to note.. im sorry there were those two people being so mean and rude replying to you, as iv seen on other forums.. those people are bad people.. O and just to clear things up as to my name, i am known as the___man all over the net so it was fitting to have my name TheStarMan.. Reason i did not use my real handle is there are wicked evil people out there that live to make other peoples lives miserable, people that search my name just to make their wicked videos about me about how God gave me cancer because i wont become a murdering calvin..

ha neways peace..

haha now im TheStarMan sure hope no one ever finds this out..

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