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Posted 8/22/2010 12:55 AM (GMT 0)
Can I buy the regular Hydro peroxide in the pharmacy for detox baths? I am having a terrible time with herxing ....feels like the flu, since I did my rife machine thursday evening. I did 2 coffee enemas, epsom salt baths, and drinking tons of water and still feel horrible...:(
Posted 8/22/2010 12:57 PM (GMT 0)
I have read enough to stay clear of the hydrogen peroxide in the grocery store because of the added chemicals(3%). What you really want to buy is pure food grade hydrogen peroxide. I buy a 17.5% and dilute it. I order mine online and it usually is here the following day. I can give you the website I order from if you need it.

Ashlie
Posted 8/22/2010 1:12 PM (GMT 0)
Liz,

Sorry to hear you are feeling so bad. Yes, you can get the hydrogen peroxide in places like Walmart, Target, Walgreens, CVS, etc. We (my wife and I) go to Sam's and buy large bottles of it and usually get two or three cases as we go through it pretty quick.

Gary
Posted 8/22/2010 5:48 PM (GMT 0)
Ok Gary, is that regular hydro peroxide not food grade? Also they mention Epsom salts baths.....my dr said magnesium is no good for those that have Lyme. Have you heard that?
Posted 8/22/2010 5:49 PM (GMT 0)
Yes ashlie can you provide website. Thank you so much!
Posted 8/22/2010 6:32 PM (GMT 0)
LizW

Sure its rebekahspureliving.com. Its just straight food grade Hydrogen peroxide and this way your not adding anything else to your body. Personally, I use epsom salts. I really think they help. I would say for every article I have found saying don't take magnesium I have found thirty articles supporting it :) Hope this helps. You could try the baths and see if they help you. Just pay attention to how you feel. Another good thing is to add 2-4 tablespoons of grated ginger to the bath water and this will help open your pores so you absorb the magn. and peroxide better. I just learned this trick from Dr. Jernigan's book! Hope this helps!!

Ashlie
Posted 8/22/2010 7:11 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Ashlie,

I heard alot about Dr. J, have you tried any of his herbs that you felt were effective instead of taking abx?? I have an ozone generator recommended by my dr to drink ozonated water. I feel terrible anxiety when I drink it, do you think that can make you herx as well. I did rife therapy thurs evening and its taking awhile for me to feel better. Last 2 days were pretty bad, today alittle better but my anxiety is still there as well as the fatigue. Cant do much without going back to bed and resting.
Posted 8/22/2010 8:01 PM (GMT 0)
I don't know why a doc would say that magnesium is not good for those that have LD??? A lot of us are low in magnesium. I take 500 mg of magnesium oxide am & pm - it seems to help with leg pains & RLS type of feelings for me. I know that there are others here that also take magnesium supplements.
Posted 8/22/2010 11:09 PM (GMT 0)

LizW said...
Ok Gary, is that regular hydro peroxide not food grade? Also they mention Epsom salts baths.....my dr said magnesium is no good for those that have Lyme. Have you heard that?

Liz, no I have never heard that. Is your doctor a LLMD? That's news to me because magnesium is something that most of us with this disease are low on. My wife and I have had nothing but good experiences with our epsom salt, hydrogen peroxide with grated ginger baths. I know very few people who say they had a bad experience with the bath, but for those that did I suggest they lower the amount of epsom salt and not let the water get too hot.

Gary
Posted 8/22/2010 11:12 PM (GMT 0)
LizW,

I actually am going to Dr. J's center next week. I was taking high doses of three oral antibiotics for 14 months and I have made little progress so time for changes. I am nervous and do not know what to expect but know that I need to do something different. Sometimes, when I try something new I notice my anxiety levels go up because I am not sure what's going to happen to my body and if I will be able to handle it. Could that be what's happening. I'm sure you herx from ozonated water. The oxygen can kill the bug. I have never tried this though. Sorry your having such a hard time!

Traveler,
There are some docs that say magnesium does something to the biofilm and you can't kill the bug as effectively. I'm not really sure the details but I have come across that before.
Posted 8/22/2010 11:13 PM (GMT 0)
That's the second time this week I've heard that magnesium is not good for people with Lyme.  I wonder what the source is - I've never read it anywhere, just heard it from people who are being treated. 

Rose

Posted 8/22/2010 11:57 PM (GMT 0)
Here's some suggested reading on Magnesium and other supplements that most Lyme patients benefit from:

www.lymeinfo.net/magnesium.html
www.lymebook.com/lyme-disease-diet-and-supplements-vitamin-a-b-c-magnesium

Here's an interesting article on Jenna's Blog related to magnesium. Be sure to read the reader comments too:

www.lymediseaseresource.com/wordpress/magnesium-friend-or-foe-to-chronic-lyme-disease/

addsmom, I think you'll find the last link interesting related to your comment about why some feel that magnesium is not good for Lyme. Yes, it has to do with biofilms, but there are some ways to deal with it, regardless, when our bodies are depleted of magnesium we need to replace it or suffer the consequences.

Gary
Posted 8/23/2010 12:57 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks Gary I'll check it out. I personally use the epsom salts and take magnesium supplements especially extra when I have a headache. I think I need it most days.
Posted 8/27/2010 4:16 AM (GMT 0)
Gary, Thanks for the links on Magnesium. Very interesting!
Posted 8/27/2010 4:52 AM (GMT 0)
Gary, thank you for the links. They answered my questions about magnesium.

Rose
Posted 8/27/2010 11:57 AM (GMT 0)
Gary, Great links..thank you. One of the links specifically mentions magnesium malate, so the question is, exactly which magnesium is the best to take? There is magnesium citrate, magnesium glycinate, magnesium taurate, magnesium malate, magnesium oxide, etc. etc. So how do we know we're taking the "right" kind of magnesium???
Posted 8/27/2010 1:11 PM (GMT 0)
Mamyou,

Seems everyone has a different opinion on which magnesium to take. Dr. Jernigan has me on Magnesium Citrate as that's what I tested high for. It's well absorbed and it can help to keep you regular if that's something you have an issue with. I guess you go with the magnesium that you feel best works for you. I've tried three different types of magnesium capsules over the years and this is the one that I've found works best for me.

I noticed on another Lyme forum that was having a discussion about which magnesium to take, the majority of the people on that thread I read some time ago were taking Citrate. Whether that means anything or not????? That's why I like to get the BRS test done when I go to the Hansa Center as the doctors can tell you exactly what supplement your body needs. Just because Dr. Jernigan has me on Citrate, that doesn't mean everyone should be on it. Just depends on what your body needs and what works best for you.

Gary
Posted 8/27/2010 4:05 PM (GMT 0)
LizW,

I would love to talk to you about your rife machine. We have a family member that started riffing 3 months ago. It sounds like you are getting strong reactions from the machine and sorry to hear about the strong Herxs you are having. A certain med. was suggested for family member to take if he suffered with strong herxs from the machine. We were told that Herxing after riffing will become a minor issue if one uses this med. I will be happy to give you that info. if you will email me. My email is posted under Allieann.
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