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Posted 10/7/2010 9:18 PM (GMT 0)
Hi-
Has anyone here used a coffee colon cleanse formula and had a strong herx reaction? I did one session at home some weeks ago with no problem, then did one again Saturday--and am still in a strong herxheimer reaction -- I just wanted to confirm the coffee enema was likely responsible....this is just so awful!
Posted 10/8/2010 12:58 AM (GMT 0)
Hi seekingbalance,

No, I never herxed from coffee enema's..   Perhaps if you tell us everything you are taking on a daily basis that may give us a clue to why are you feeling this way.

Are you doing the detox baths, foot baths, dry skin brushing, exercising, sauna, etc.? 

Denise

 

Posted 10/8/2010 2:19 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Denise!
Then it really is a bit odd...I did the enema Friday; right after it I felt as if someone gave me a sleeping pill. Then the next day I was feeling brain pressure, tingling and numbing in extremities, hung over, and simply...toxic. I felt extremely weak.

I'm doing the foot baths and saunas every other day, the skin brushing daily, almost no exercise (usually too weak); I'm taking the Jernigen Lymogen and Antitox CNS and Antitox Cardio. I am taking tons of supplements, too many to list but it is similar to Jernigan's supplement formula. It has many antioxidants, turmeric for muscle pain, plenty of B12, extra molybdenum, extra magnesium. Oh and a capsule of aresiminin for babesia and a capsule of Carnivora (venus fly trap extract that purportedly breaks down the layer of cells the Lyme hides behind).

I am pretty sure I didn't change anything else that day, tho with this 'Lymehead' brain fog who knows! I only can think maybe toxins were pushed upward too far, and toxins re-entered my system; or simply my colon had a particularly toxic layer I dislodged....

Thanks!

I am eating much healthier than a few weeks ago, though I haven't completely eliminated carbs.
Posted 10/8/2010 2:23 AM (GMT 0)
Are you taking any binders? Doing the CE could be stiring up a lot of toxins?

I would take some apple pectin or activated charcol before bed 2hrs away from all other supplements

just a thought
Posted 10/8/2010 2:30 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks steelbone, I have taken some capsules which contain bentonite and charcoal, but I am not very careful about taking them separate from other supplements. Makes more sense to keep them separate. Maybe I simply have an especially toxic digestive tract?
Posted 10/8/2010 10:54 PM (GMT 0)
When I was using Dr. J's protocol I kept it really simple.. I started with 1 product (Borrelogen) just to see how I felt, then I slowly introduced another product (Neuro-Antitox CNS/PNS)...   I wanted to know what was working and what wasn't..  I felt an immediate response to the Borrelogen which shocked me (I felt stronger, I was able to exercise lightly, etc.).  But then again, I started with a "clean" body meaning I didn't have any antibiotics or chemicals inside.. 

I think too many supplements may not be the best thing..  One could counteract the other..  especially when it comes to herbs and botanicals.. 

I would make a list on paper of all your supplements and botanicals and perhaps cut some out just to see if it makes a difference on how you feel..

Was your colon totally clean before taking the coffee enema?  If I remember correctly, I believe Dr. J. wrote in his book that the colon should be emptied before doing this enema..  If it's not using water enema's first should help before using the organic coffee..

Hope that helps,

Denise

Posted 10/10/2010 1:38 PM (GMT 0)
I am going to just put this out there but some clay 'supplements' contain heavy metals...my fog is preventing me from remembering where I stored this info but might be something you want to look into.

I agree with the *too many supplements* theory...of course we want to take anything and everything that is going to help us and make us feel better but sometimes less IS more. I have never herx'd from a coffee enema and I have been using them for years. I do them during herx times though, and with a good cleansing program so...maybe bc I am already herxing? I don't notice any additional herxing...I usually feel significantly BETTER after. I don't use charcoal or clay, I tend to take lots of spirulina or chlorella...but that is what has been helpful for me. Hope you are feeling better! Don't give up on the CE's...they really do help!
Posted 10/10/2010 2:15 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, I surely will not give up the enemas overall...I reallly think perhaps I pushed matter upwards, and it happened to be toxic. Or who knows...maybe it was something else entirely and it was a coincidence.

Yes, I think you are right that more is not always better RE: supplements...this formula has a lot in it, but for each they put in it I feel there is good reason to take most of them:

http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Synergy-NeuroPower-Multi-Vitamin-Version-4

I have also taken this one, but I take 1/2 of the dose (1 packet,not 2 a day), which never gave me trouble in the past:

http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Synergy-Platinum-Multi-Vitamin-Version-4

Vitacost, by the way, has great quality supplements for a very good price....well researched, highly absorbable forms.
Thank you for the information, it helps me in making a decision when I will do the enema again..and perhaps make doubly sure my colon is completely empty!

Zinta
Posted 10/11/2010 4:10 PM (GMT 0)
omg, i tried this yesterday. I didn't have an enema so I just made a big cup of coffee. I don't typically drink coffee and I actually felt tired for a couple hours after drinking it. had the craps, and then was straight WIRED for 6 more hours. My heart was racing and felt like I was having a panic attack for 5 hours straight. Needed a shot of potato vodka to calm down.

not doing that again...
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