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Posted 2/18/2011 4:15 AM (GMT 0)

I was diag. 3 years ago with Lyme but apparently not given the appropriate treatment.

After realizing that what I'm going through is still Lyme and that I'm not simply losing my mind, I've spent the past few days on the computer trying to find a LLMD.

I'm so excited to have found this message board! It is by far the most inclusive and informative.

And, this is the first time that I have ever posted anything on a message board!!!

So, any recommendations for who to see in Kansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Nebraska...

Hawaii (just kidding!) Thank you so much, Denail

Posted 2/18/2011 11:04 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, and welcome to the board! Hopefully others will be on with more info from the Kansas area. The only one i've heard of from that area is Dr. J from the Hansa center. I think he treats naturally not with prescription meds. You can look up the Hansa Center , they have a website, also if you search here some people have been there.

take care
Posted 2/19/2011 1:09 AM (GMT 0)
Denail

I live in KS and finally found a great Lyme Dr.

What part of KS do you live in?

Send me an email to [email protected] and I will try and help you with info.

And depending on what kind of treatment you would like to persue would depend on who you see.

Like diaba has said that the Hansas Center in Wichita treats with natural protocol. Lots of people get great

results from Dr. J @ Hansa
Posted 2/19/2011 6:49 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Denail,

Welcome to the forum! We're so glad that you found us:)

For information on finding a Lyme Literate Medical Doctor(LLMD) in your area, please email our long time member, Dan's Mother at:
[email protected]

If you'd like more doctor suggestions, you can email stephanie at: [email protected] You can also go to: www.turnthecorner.org/bod.htm if you want to learn a little bit more about Lyme Disease.

You can also go to The Lyme Disease Association and search for LLMD's 3 times in a month. You have to register first. Here is the link: www.lymediseaseassociation.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=277&Itemid=74

You will want to find an ILADS(International Lyme And Associated Diseases Society) doctor. The ILADS site is a great place to read to get you started on your Lyme journey. www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/treatment_guidelines_clearing_ilads.html

For great info and links, read the topic at the top of the forum titled,"New To Lyme?......Start Here!" It will help to get you started learning about Lyme Disease.
Posted 2/24/2011 4:09 AM (GMT 0)
Hey Harleyrider, thanks for your message! I sent you an e-mail on the 20th!
Anxious to hear from you.....Denail
Posted 2/24/2011 8:32 AM (GMT 0)
i do not recommend the hansa center. i was there several years ago with no results. furthermore, they will nickel and dime you for everything. just my opinion. please do your research on this place. i know i am not the only one that was unhappy with them. best of luck to you!

Post Edited (rg21f9) : 2/24/2011 4:21:53 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/24/2011 11:30 AM (GMT 0)
I disagree with rg21f9. My wife and I both were treated at the Hansa Center and we both made great progress with Dr. J's treatment protocol. Cheap? No. But what price can you put on your health, especially if it helps you to get better.

PM me for more information if you'd like. There are others here who have gotten welll on Dr. J's protocol. He has a book called, "Beating Lyme Disease". Check his website for more information.

Gary
Posted 2/24/2011 12:21 PM (GMT 0)
Hi rg21f9,

This is your first post and I find it odd that you have not posted before.  What did Dr. J. miss? (you edited your post but I happened to see your statement before you did).

And why were you unhappy there, you don't say why..   Just to make a general statement without giving reasons is not good enough for me. 

You see, I have come across people who have claimed they were at the Hansa Center but in truth they were not..  These kind of people feel threatened by alternative medicine and only believe in conventional medicine thus they have a need to attack anything that threatens them.

I'm not saying you are one of these people, I am saying that I have met these type of people before.

It would be nice to hear more about your experience in Kansas.

Denise

Posted 2/24/2011 5:23 PM (GMT 0)
I have just come across another treatment center in Kansas City, Mo.
Here is a statement from that site about what they treat:

"The primary treatment focus is Chronic Illness, specializing in inflammatory chronic illness such as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFIDS), Fibromyalgia (FMS), Lyme disease and other Autoimmune System disorders."

Here is their treatment stratedgy:
"Major areas of treatment are: traditional medicine, extensive diagnostic evaluations, natural and alternative treatment methods, mental health, and nutritional supplementation. "

Here is a link to the Center:
www.healthcentersofamerica.com/information.cfm?id=72

Here's my $.02 on the different forms of treatment, for what it's worth;

It is a good thing to check out other 'forms' of medicine. If what a person is currently doing is not resulting in lasting improvements, it seems a bit odd to continue to do the same things over & over hoping for different results.

With that being said, I'm also a firm believer that there are times where abx are called for. I had a full year of treatment with abx before I realized that my body was not going to respond to abx treatment the way I needed it to in order to rid myself of these most horrid, insidious infections. Each one of us must make our own decisions on what to do for our own bodies though.
Posted 2/24/2011 10:10 PM (GMT 0)
Traveler, Thanks for the info. I checked out the web site.
After spending an hour reading their info., I read the postings about the Hansa Center that were left on the thread titled "I want to go to a lyme treatment center".
I'm too confused now to even think about any of this anymore.
I'm taking my tears back to bed. Ready to just give up.
Posted 2/24/2011 11:27 PM (GMT 0)
If anyone thinks Hansa Center is expensive try the health center of america. In my opinion that Dr R at the health centers of america is a RIP-OFF! Geez!! For the price they charge their office should have been top notch, not so and they dont work with insurance companies.

Denail will get back with you in your email kids are calling for food right now.
Posted 2/24/2011 11:29 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Denail,

First of all I didn't get a chance to welcome you, so welcome!  I understand the confusion about which treatment plan to start..  I remember when I was sick I was very confused.  At first I thought the only way to get better was from taking antibiotics and I finished the Doxy I was prescribed and lo and behold, I was not getting better.

So I joined a lyme forum (not this one) and people were posting about detoxing (at that time I said to myself "what does detoxing have to do with lyme?" Made no sense to me.   I felt very lost as my doctor refused to prescribe more Doxy for me and I searching for another LLMD but couldn't find one close to me.

So yes, I was lost, confused, didn't know what to take or what to do..   Thus I read what everyone else was posting and kept quiet (hard to believe now!).... 

Some months went by (I had already tried Samento and Silver) and someone mentions Dr. Jernigan's book (it was his original book).  I said to myself "okay, I'm going to buy this book and see what I get out of it" and I did..  I was really impressed with what he had to write.   So I started his healing at home protocol figuring I had nothing to lose but $48.00 for 1 bottle of a certain botanical.  And I felt better!  So I bought another bottle and added a different botanical.

Now I will get to my point:  Keep it simple.    If you chose to go the alternative medicine route, you can buy 1 bottle like I did and see if you feel a difference within 4 weeks.   Start a detox regime which is listed in the Sticky Thread "New to Lyme?  Start Here!"   Start with the detox baths after doing a dry skin brushing and the foot baths.  Very simple.

Don't complicate your life.   Avoid bad foods, alcohol, sugar, white bread if you can. 

I highly recommend Green Vibrance (I buy mine at the Vitamin Shoppe) to boost your immune system and it also works as a detox.

That's it.. Ask questions.. 

We are here for you!

Denise

Posted 2/25/2011 3:17 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Deejavu,

It is my first post because I do not regularly read the boards. I can assure you I am a legit person. I am not against alternative medicine. However, I do believe in special situations medications may be necessary to combat Lyme. The Hansa Center can not provide that. I edited my post because I did not want to get into specifics, but it was something they told me I did not have at all. This is largely why I am unhappy. They did not do anything for me in terms of my health and I felt like I was money to them. Again, this is just my opinion.
Posted 2/25/2011 8:54 AM (GMT 0)
rg21f9,

Hi there and welcome to the forum! I just wanted to reply to your last post about The Hansa Center not giving medications there? I'm not sure if I read that right, but we have a member here(bucci), that was given blood thiners and I think antibiotics too if I'm not mistaken.

Please correct me if I'm wrong bucci:)
Posted 2/26/2011 12:37 PM (GMT 0)
Morning all,

CG, it's Envita that gives antibiotics (and I believe Bucci was there), never Hansa (or at least chemical antibiotics).

rg21f9, something just doesn't add up as the Hansa Center is all about alternative medicine..  First you state that they missed something, then you state they told you have something that you don't believe you have. 

Anyone that goes to Hansa knows just from their website what they are all about which is diagnosing problems in order to help that person get better by optimizing that person's health so their own body can fight off disease by itself without any botanicals or medications.    Something just doesn't add up here.

Are you sure you are talking about Hansa or another place?  confused

Denise

Posted 2/27/2011 3:53 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Cajungrl,

Deejavu is correct. Hansa does not give prescribed medications.



Deejavu,

Please reread my posts. I never said they told me I had something and that I did not believe them.
Posted 2/28/2011 12:11 AM (GMT 0)
Hansa Center does not prescribe abx, or any other chemical type medicines, They only treat with natural medicines, herbs and homeopathic medicines. They treat with a variety of tools including state of the art equipment that helped me to make tremendous progress.

Dr. Jernigan invented over 30 natural medicines himself. He believes in natural medicines, good diet, exercise and positive outlook on life will help anyone get better. Check out his website and read his blogs to learn more about his treatment protocol and philosophy. Better yet, purchase his excellent book, "Beating Lyme Disease".

Gary
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