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Posted 1/8/2012 2:14 AM (GMT 0)
Hey Everyone!!! Need help with diet plan let me know what you think!!! MY QUESTION: SHOULD I TAKE OUT ALL THE BREAD!!!??? Monday: Breakfast: 4 eggs and 2 whole grain pieces of bread with butter(500 cal) Lunch: two big sandwiches(4 slices whole grain)+tuna snack box but I don’t eat the cracker in it (1250 cal) Dinner: 4 sausages and 4 slices of whole grain bread Tuesday: Breakfast: 4 eggs and 2 whole grain pieces of bread with butter(500 cal) Lunch: two big sandwiches(4 slices whole grain)+tuna snack box but I don’t eat the cracker in it (1250 cal) Dinner: 3 hamburgers and 6 slices of whole grain bread (1250) Wednesday: Breakfast: 4 eggs and 2 whole grain pieces of bread with butter(500 cal) Lunch: two big sandwiches(4 slices whole grain)+tuna snack box but I don’t eat the cracker in it (1250 cal) Dinner: steak Thursday: Breakfast: 4 eggs and 2 whole grain pieces of bread with butter(500 cal) Lunch: two big sandwiches(4 slices whole grain)+tuna snack box but I don’t eat the cracker in it (1250 cal) Dinner: 5 thin sliced chicken breasts Friday Breakfast: 4 eggs and 2 whole grain pieces of bread with butter(500 cal) Lunch: two big sandwiches(4 slices whole grain)+tuna snack box but I don’t eat the cracker in it (1250 cal) Dinner: 4 sausages and 4 slices of whole grain bread Saturday Breakfast: 4 eggs, bacon and sausage(1000 cal) Lunch: 5 thin sliced chicken Dinner: 3 burgers with 6 whole grain slices Sunday: Breakfast: 4 eggs, bacon sausage(1000 cal) Lunch: 5 thin sliced chicken Dinner: Steak   SHOULD I TAKE OUT ALL BREAD IM TRYING TO READ UP ON MY DIET AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE WHOLE GRAIN IS FINE BUT IS IT REALLY???BECAUSE I DO NOT NEED TO EAT IT AND ILL EAT MORE MEATS BUT I NEED TO KNOW HELPPPP!!!!! FYI: I lift weights a LOT so that’s why this is my diet….I used to eat 4000 calories a day but I switched to this cause I cant afford it what you think???
Posted 1/8/2012 2:42 AM (GMT 0)
I think the best thing you can do - if you're up to it - is to try cutting out the bread, and see how you feel after about a month or so. Or maybe just cut down a little bit? I've found it pretty difficult to cut out the carbs/grains completely, but I have cut them by probably half if not more, and that's been somewhat helpful. Have you been tested for gluten allergies? This might help answer the question for you.

I've read that gluten produces toxins, or is a toxin, or something to that effect, regardless of whether you have a sensitivity or not, but I'm not sure if that's considered factual or not. Many people make great progress without cutting out bread, but it does seem to help a lot of people. Diet is definitely very important, but there's no one diet that works best for everybody. Unfortunately it's usually a bit of trial and error.
Posted 1/8/2012 4:07 AM (GMT 0)
Wow, Mckeonj,

You need to eat some vegetables and fruit! The more different colored food you can eat, the better your nutrition. The fiber and enzymes from the plant based foods are essential to helping your body detox.

Whole grains are good, especially if you can get them in another form other than bread so that you avoid the extra yeast. Bulgar wheat, quinoa, oatmeal, brown rice, whole grain pasta are very good choices.

Basically, the more food you eat that looks like it does in its original form, the better off you will be.
Posted 1/8/2012 4:55 AM (GMT 0)
A lot of us, chronic Lyme patients find it very helpful (symptoms feel better) to stay on gluten free diet.
One opinion is that gluten worsen the inflammation. Another - sensitivity to gluten is autoimmune problem and Lyme disease is known to cause autoimmune problems, such as autoimmune hypothyroidism.

In any case - try stay away on this diet for a few weeks and see how you feel. Have rice or potatoes with your meat, or rice crackers. I keep baking gluten free bread regularly now, my whole family is on gluten free diet. It took us a while to get used to the bread though, it definately has different taste, best to use toasted.
Posted 1/8/2012 6:06 AM (GMT 0)
i have a question about gluten free stuff....i was at trader joes yesterday and there was a huge bag of gluten free pretzels, now even though its gluten free there is still a ton of carbs in the bag....soooo just because its gluten free does that mean i can eat the whole bag and as much as i want and im fine orrrr is it just like a last resort eat gluten free foods but only have a few??? this is a big question i have actually..Let me know THANK YOU GUYS!!!
Posted 1/8/2012 8:20 AM (GMT 0)
Gluten-Free does not = healthy in all cases. There are a lot of gluten-free foods out there that are just as bad or worse for you than the white bread/bakery stuff. So read labels, look for whole grain gluten-free products (brown rice & pasta made from brown rice, and other gluten-free whole grain products made from oats, quinoa, millet, etc.).

Some find they need to omit all grains.

Some find they need to omit most non-vegetable source carbs.

Some find they need to omit nightshade vegetables (bell peppers, tomatoes, eggplant, potatoes - sweet potatoes are ok, they are in a different botanical family).

Some find they need to omit sugars (including fruit).

Some find they need to omit yeast (fermented foods (cheese, etc.), yeast breads/bakery goods, yeast extract added to packaged foods, etc.).

Some feel best on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (Google SCD and you'll get plenty of info on this diet).

Some feel best on the Paleo Diet ( http://paleodiet.com  ).

Some find they only need to eliminate gluten & dairy (gluten and casein are pro-inflammatory proteins).

Some find they don't need to eliminate anything, but their progress may be slowed. Sugar in the diet contributes to yeast/Candida overgrowth, and being on Lyme treatment with antibiotics also promotes Candida overgrowth.

IMHO, blood type, specific infections, treatment options (abs vs. herbal), lifestyle, allergies/sensitivities/intolerances, methylation issues, and many other variables are what makes it too hard to tell everyone that one particular diet works for everyone...there are just too many variables for a one-size-fits-all approach.

More links you may find helpful:

http://gfmall.com/


http://gflinks.com/


(scroll all the way down to the bottom of these two websites for links to other helpful sites)

Posted 1/8/2012 4:17 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, rice pasta is great. I get spagetti-type rice pasta from Oriental section of my supermarket. My kids love it with spagetti sauce. Also our supermarket just expanded the gluten free section and they now carry 'King Soba' brand black rice noodles. My kids think they are awesome.
Posted 1/8/2012 8:13 PM (GMT 0)
I just try to elimate an item for a few months, keeping a record of what and for how long, to see if it makes any differences.

There is no one quick or simple answer for each of us, most have to do the good ole' trial and error to see what works.

Hang in there.
Posted 1/8/2012 9:08 PM (GMT 0)
thanks everyone im cutting out all my bread and going a different route,,, ill post my new food plan next week as an update....THANKS!!!
Posted 1/8/2012 9:11 PM (GMT 0)
My Doc had me cut out bread not because of wheat and gluten but because of yeast.. So lucky for me I get to eat Crackers and biscuits.. I will 2nd you need to eat vegetables and fruit.. They are some of the best sources of nutrients. Also many have anti-inflamatory properties.. Celery has only been a food for a couple hundred years it was a medicine for thousands because it has so many antioxidant agents.

Post Edited (Inhimwelive) : 1/8/2012 2:20:50 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/9/2012 7:17 AM (GMT 0)
I was completely bedridden for 6 months ; had Lyme, babesia and bartonella. Now am completely recovered and going to run the Paris 2012 marathon. I'm writing a book in the hopes of inspiring others who are still suffering. I was in very bad shape, was tortured every day for a year- feel better now than I have ever in my life. I give all the credit to diet. I don't do gluten, sugar or dairy. Mostly for the inflammation reasons people have described. But also, don't forget, bacteria needs sugar. I think the Lyme, bart and babesia finally waved the white flag in my body. Diet is key to radical recovery. I pretty much follow a Paleo diet. I enjoy food more now than I ever did before. Habits and tastes can change. Hang in there, stay relentless. Recovery is possible!!
Posted 1/11/2012 1:15 AM (GMT 0)
OMG. I just saw this today about the Paolo diet and this blog from Jack Krouse.

thanks for sharing that with us Recovered.

I have never been able to do a diet before because it never fed me right..

This diet actually had bacon and eggs on it. and even though in some naturopathic foood alergy test my worst food was eggs.

It really is the best breakfast for me. I need the bacon fat or something.
They have a vegatarian Palo diet too I believe.

I am looking into all this just now.
Posted 1/12/2012 6:16 AM (GMT 0)
It's really hard to get adequate nutrition as a vegetarian, (not saying impossible, but you really have to be diligent about getting all the vitamins and minerals you need) The main thing is to cut out SUGARS... any kind. Starve those bacteria! I believe in no grains. It is easier than it sounds. The Paleo model is a good one. It's a way of life for me now. I feel better than I ever have. I have 14 weeks until the Paris marathon, just working on logging my miles. Never did that before Lyme, and I was a complete train wreck during the acute phase of the disease. There is hope, there is hope! But you really have to work it. You have to give up the food that is not supporting your body, no exceptions. If you work at it, recovery is possible. Hang in there. Be relentless!
Posted 1/12/2012 8:52 PM (GMT 0)
I suggest to all my lyme clients that they go 100% gluten free.

Cut it out for 6 weeks and see how you feel. Testing is expensive and not full proof.

Jen
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