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Posted 9/6/2012 5:26 AM (GMT 0)
I have been struggling for years trying to get rid of this Lyme Disease, since I got it and had to drop out of high school. I have spent hundreds of hours learning about health and I believe I've essentially optimized my lifestyle for health, yet after almost two years of extremely careful living, I still can't be rid of lyme disease without intervention! I'm only 21, and the last 4 years of my life have slipped away into patches of illumination against a sea of fog.

Antibiotics and antimalarials are the only two things in the past which put away my lyme disease for long periods of time (>5 months each) in the past. I can't afford to go to a doctor who doesn't take insurance to get medicine prescribed which won't be covered by my American insurance.

I am a pre-med student; I know all about the draw-backs and potential side effects of front-line antibiotics, and I have a doctor I can consult with about it, but I can't get my hands on actual drugs. I've tried taking massive amounts of garlic (two heads per day), since it's the only potent, readily available natural antibiotic I could find, and it doesn't seem nearly as effective.

Is there any way I can get antibiotics without a doctor's prescription or get antimalarials or is there any non-regulated equivalent out there?!

Post Edited By Moderator (borderlyme) : 9/5/2012 11:31:22 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/6/2012 5:36 AM (GMT 0)
Sorry I had to edit your post a little - forum rules.

I'm so sorry to hear of all you're going through - so many of us lose so many years to this disease and you're absolutely right, a big part of it is "the system." Have you looked into herbal treatment protocols? I've had some great results with Buhner's protocol which hasn't been too expensive, and there's also Cowden, Zhang, and I'm sure plenty of others. It's probably best to consult with someone about all of this, but a lot of herbs out there that are effective need to be taken in pretty high doses - maybe the ones you've tried just haven't been enough? Detoxing is also really helpful - it alleviates symptoms and also just cleans out your body so it can manage these infections on its own a little better.

Do you know why your insurance isn't covering antibiotics? I know most insurance companies give patients a hard time with IV, but they should probably still cover orals because they're not considered as experimental.
Posted 9/6/2012 7:16 AM (GMT 0)
I'm looking into all those protocols right now. But will any of them actually KILL Bb when taken long-term or just suppress it? I've already suppressed Lyme probably as far as diet and supplements can go.

Following leads in Buhner's protocol, it seems Samento could be extremely useful added to a cleansing diet. It looks cheap enough to buy out of pocket too. Thanks a lot for the tips!
I've done all sorts of stuff to cleanse all over the place and continue to take chlorella. If samento is effective, I will start making Dr. Klinghardt's full detox cocktail (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/08/04/Dr-Klinghardts-Treatment-of-Lyme-Disease.aspx).

The forum rule against discussing politically inconvenient things is just censorship.
Posted 9/6/2012 12:48 PM (GMT 0)
Without saying too much...if you go to some of the survivalist websites you will find places you can get the meds you need without a prescription. I have done it and can vouch for it. I know how hard it is, I have dealt with the same, as I am red flagged by my insurance co...

 

Posted 9/6/2012 2:29 PM (GMT 0)
WWJD20,
I am interested in your post....you said all that you take is Samento and grapefruit seed extract? I take the extract and have the Samento (but haven't started it yet). I'm curious: this regime has helped you a lot? I am not interested in the abx route - I have done this for my Babesia (taken Mepron and Zithromycin) and feel it did not help me. Actually, I think it made me worse but that's another story.

Is this all you take for your Lyme? How about any supplements? I also take Magnesium Malate and that has helped me tremendously as far as muscle pain and twitches. But the Magnesium is only part of it, I take many others as well. I would be interested in hearing about your protocol.

Sorry I went a little off the topic here!

Sinthia
Posted 9/6/2012 10:13 PM (GMT 0)
Since there are no Lyme MD's in my area, and having Lyme since "88, I had to get my Doxy wherever I could. The first 10 years were ok, my primary care went with what I thought I might need, which happened to be a month of Doxy every 3 months. After that I started with a company and changed docs, one who does not cooperate at all as he does not believe in chronic Lyme. I am doing pretty well, but am sure I could benefit from better care. I did have 3 weeks of Rocephin IV back in '90. At present I have ordered several meds from an online pharmacy.
Posted 9/6/2012 10:45 PM (GMT 0)
I've read that Lyme and coinfections can also alter your epigenome by changing the way your genes are expressed. Is there any way of healing your altered genome?
Posted 9/7/2012 2:30 AM (GMT 0)
I don't know much about genetics, but I'd look into adaptogen herbs - I haven't researched them much yet myself but I know they're supposed to go into our body and tell it what to do, sort of re-educate our cells.

Samento/cat's claw is a really good herb. It's even cheaper if you buy it powdered in bulk, and make your own capsules (if you're up for it). I bought a little capsule machine for somewhere around 20 dollars, but it works just as well if you just shove it in with a q-tip!
Posted 9/7/2012 3:37 PM (GMT 0)
I've researched adaptogens a little, and I've been on some for a while now. My impression is that adaptogens are very good for helping resume your life with reduced symptoms, but after being on them for 6 months I don't think they themselves have played a role in diminishing the disease, apart from perhaps lifting my stress levels.
When my doctor gave me medicine with adaptogens, she described them as greatly increasing the amount of stress one can withstand. One experiment showed lab rats could swim far longer in a bottomless vat before giving up if they'd been fed adaptogens.

Borderlyme said...
Samento/cat's claw is a really good herb. It's even cheaper if you buy it powdered in bulk, and make your own capsules (if you're up for it). I bought a little capsule machine for somewhere around 20 dollars, but it works just as well if you just shove it in with a q-tip!

Woh! That is so cool! I ordered a one-month supply within an hour of having read your post, and I'll definitely get a bulk order if it works out!
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