rash sign of infection dying?

I've been getting that pin-prick rash (dr. diagnosed as bartonella or babesia) all the time, all over the place.... I'm wondering if it's a sign that the infection is flourishing, or whether it might be a sign that I'm making progress eradicating it.

I, too, didn't start getting this until AFTER I started treatment. Boy do I hope that it means we are making progress...

Looking forward to other's replies as well.

This is a hard question to answer, as symptoms come and go all the time during treatment, especially during even a mild herx.

I've had all kinds of rashes come out during treatment of the different infections that I have - but any rash that keeps coming back with regularity need to be investigated.

Take pictures of the rashes - but be sure to put something in the picture so that whoever looks at the picture late can understand the size of the rash - a penny, a pencil, your hand, etc. Note what day and how long each rash lasts and what may have helped ease it or make it go away. Then take all that info in to your doc - hopefully they will use it to determine if there is anything to be concerned about or if it's just a symptom that comes and goes during treatment.

That makes sense then, since they come at the same time as other symptoms are increased. I'm sorry you are feeling so poorly though. I do hope that you are feeling better soon! Remember to do all the detoxing you can to help ease those herxes.

A quick question though - have you ever tried using a Benedryl to cope with those symptoms as well? When I would have certain symptoms, using 1 or 2 Benedryl would really help calm them. If you have some on hand, it would be worth a try!!

No, you not doing anything wrong in your detoxing, just most likely trying to do more than you body can take right now. I would suggest that you back off on the detoxing a bit and allow your body to 'catch it's breath' again.

When we take abx (or herbs with abx actions) the bacteria dies, causing a release of toxins. These toxins will get stored in our bodies creating more symptoms and increased symptoms (a herx). When we detox, we are pushing the toxins that got stored in muscles, joints and organs to be pushed into the blood stream so that they can be processed out of the body....causing herxes once again for some.

There are many of us, I believe, that have compromised detox pathways -especially if we've progressed to chronic infections. So we have an excess of toxins being stored in our bodies. Getting them out - without herxing - can be very tricky for some.

I can still detox too much!! I rarely can use a full body soak still and must rely on foot soaks, eating carrots, drinking lots of lots of water.

Just take it a little slower with the detoxing, and rest all you can, using all the 'tricks of the trade' (like Benedryl) to get you through.

Makes sense... One more question...
Are there any detox strategies in particular that are more soothing and don't cause more herxing? (or are less likely to?) Does burbur do that?
I'm pretty scared right now, think I need to just stabilize asap before attacking the infection anymore.

If you are taking the full body detox baths, then only use the foot soaks for a while. I still have issues when I use the full body detox soak sometimes. Eating raw carrots (lots!) will also help usher those toxins out. Be sure your bowels are in good working order - moving at least once a day.

Some also use things like colestyramine, which binds the toxins to it and ushers them out of the body through the intestinal tract.

Here are a couple more links that you can go through to see if there's some other things that you would like to try for detoxing:
berkshirelyme.blogspot.com/p/jarisch-herxheimer-reaction-herxing.html

www.lyme-disease-research-database.com/coping_with_a_herx.html

In my experience, herxing after footbaths,ionic or not,was always felt the following day.

I never had problems directly after the baths,which I always did about one hour before going to bed.

The following day was sometimes very difficult to cope with,more pain,less energy.

Luckily,I only feel the benefits now,if you are herxing please take it slowly,too much herxing is not what you're aiming at.

Slow and sure,that's the way to go.

For me it all depends on how badly I'm going to herx from over detoxing. If it's going to be a doosy, it can start within an hour or two from getting out of the bath - and it usually starts out as a migraine for me when it's that bad, then progresses to include the rest of my body. :shake head:

If I've only over done it by a bit, it will wait until the next day....which means I have to stop and figure out what I did the day before to set that off!!! LOL!!