Off to Hansa

My daughter, Nikki has been struggling with Lyme symptoms since she was 12. As you can see from the topic title, we are going to the Hansa center to begin treatment on April 8. I have been reading this website for almost a year and I do appreciate everyones contributions on what they have done and their experiences. It has been invaluable to me. I am starting this topic to chronicle her trip so hopefully it will help out someone else struggling with Lyme and wondering about this option.

Here's a little about her and how we have come to this point. Her main symptoms are muscle pain, brain fog, sleep deprivation, anxiety and sweats. She is 17 now and though she had a tick bite along with a bullseye when she was younger, she was treated for Lyme right away and we had no idea her symptoms could be related to Lyme. We spent a good 3 years, going from expert to expert (ya, right ;-) ) trying to understand what was causing her problems. We told each one about the tick bite but they dismissed it as irrelevant. Deep down, we thought this tick bite had something to do with it because prior to that she was a healthy, happy kid. All her symptoms were gradually getting worse and this was very scary. She went from being a great soccer player, traveling the country with her team, with hope and dreams of playing on the National team and in college to not being able to walk upstairs or the length of a mall. Finally, in March 2012, we were told by our neighbor to see an LLMD in our area (can't thank him enough!) and she was diagnosed with Lyme. She has spent the past year on many antibiotics treating Lyme along with Bartonella and Babesia but nothing has helped her. Perhaps her symptoms have stopped getting worse but has not seen any improvement.
We said after a year, no matter the cost, we would try a center with the thought that perhaps to kick this you need to go at it all day for a few weeks. We decided on the Hansa Center since it is such a different approach from what we have done which is antibiotics and detoxing.

At the moment, we are weaning her off all medication and will be flying to Wichita, Kansas in less than a week. Even this is a bit scary as its another bridge we are crossing but we are trying our best to be very optimist and have positive thoughts on what lies ahead for Nikki.

Let me know if there is something important I left out or if you have questions.

Happy Easter

Praying for your daughter! I hope Don chimes in as he took his daughter to Hansa and she is very healthy again! Her story is amazing and would give you some encouragement!!! Keep us posted and prayers are with you both!

Blessings to you and your daughter! I just got back from a follow-up visit to Hansa. I am so grateful to have found them..I am well on the way to 100 percent health.


If I can help you with anything r.e. logistics /hotel info or any questions about Hansa, do not hesitate to email me.

I was also scared before I went as it was a huge step financially for me but I now wish I would have gone there years earlier.

Hansa is doing things that no one else is doing as far as I can see (I have had many years of different treatments and lots of education)..except maybe at the Paracelsus Clinic in Europe. The approach is extremely comprehensive. They found things that my two LL docs did not find after three years of treatment.

Best to you!!! Do keep us posted!

Nan I'm so happy to hear that report! I wrote a letter to Ellen DeGeneres (yes I did)! Asking for a paid trip to Hansa because I believe in treating the whole body. I'm very grateful for my doctor though and told her she needs to expand her practice as she treats the whole body but would love for her to reach out to Dr. J! I might start a couple of the protocols soon (looking into the Lymogen to knock this Bart out the park)!

Keep us posted about your daughter as I stated before BacktotheTurf! I really have great feelings about her recovery!

BackToTheTurf- I just wanted to update you in a way that would be encouraging to you. There is a girl that graduated from Heather's school last year and is a good basketball player. She has had lyme for a couple of years. She had her sixth day of treatment today at the Hansa Center. She has posted on her facebook today that as of today she is feeling better than she ever has! That is saying a lot for a young athlete. Please relay this info to Nikki.

TheWryter- I was already aware of BackToTheTurf's decision to take her daughter to the Hansa Center, as we had a conversation before she made that decision. thanks for thinking of me!

Nan777- It is great to hear that your progress is continuing! I just really found out something last week that just blew me away. We have been in touch with a woman that has been really sick for several years, and cannot tolerate ABX any longer. She knows the young woman from Maryland that you probably met last week. The young woman has been updating the person that I spoke to last week with her progress. This other person then scheduled an appt to go to Hansa soon. She was just waiting to see how her young friend responded to the treatment before she herself would commit.

But that's not the entire story. I found out that this woman's GP is the same one that my wife and I go to. He is not an LLMD as far as I know, but he is a really good doctor as far as MD's go. He is in his mid 60's. He started out as an accupuncturist and then got his MD. He specializes in internal medicine. This doctor told me that he can't always give the best standard of care because his license is at risk. He said that he always has to consider how far legally that he can go in treating a patient. My feeling is that he is willing to use more "alternative" remedies if he comes to know and trusts the patient.

I would have guessed that by now that he would just be coasting home to retirement, and wouldn't be seeking to learn anything new and revolutionary. I know that he has been to Klinghardt seminars in the past. Well this woman told me that our MD is thinking of going out to the Hansa Center and finding out what it is all about. I know that Dr. J. occasionally has seminars for medical professionals, and I presume that this is what the MD would be attending. At any rate, it is encouraging to see that Dr. J's approach may ever so slowly infiltrate mainstream thought.

Don

Thanks to all for the well wishes. We really appreciate your positive thoughts and energy.

Don, I have relayed the message to Nikki and she is hoping she will have similar results.

Nikki and I are now in Wichita in the hotel next to the Hansa center.  Tomorrow morning, Nikki is scheduled to have the CRT (Computerized Regulation Thermography) followed by her first appointment with Dr Jernigan. 

blessings to you both! thinking of you....

Day 1 was very busy. Here's what she did today:
- Nikki had the CRT which she said was a hard test for her. She has difficulty standing, even for 10 minutes. Her feet went numb and she nearly blacked out.
- Next we met with Dr Jernigan. He reviewed her issues and went over the CRT with us. He said it showed many issues with her organs - kidneys, liver, pancreas (lower part I think). He also reviewed some of her previous tests - adrenal and cortisol, blood work and lyme tests. He said he saw many things that needed to be treated and he didn't see anything they could not help with (which will of course be amazing).
Then after lunch, she had 4 therapies:
1. she had a 1 hour massage which sounds great to most of us but even light massage hurts her muscles
2. Mustard foot bath and ionic hand bath for 30 minutes (at the same time)
3. finally, Lux therapy for 20 minutes with heat on her liver and cool on her spleen.

Day 2 :

Had first working session with Dr Jernigan which was very interesting. He said most of her circuits were shut down and during this session he turned them all back on. He tested her strength and it was improved. He had her do some squats after the session to see how she felt and she said the pain was the same. He wasn't surprised as she needs some time to heal. He gave us new medicine to take.

Therapies: 1 hour massage, Lux for heart, liver and spleen, mustard foot bath, ionic hand bath & ST-8

Post Edited (BackToTheTurf18) : 4/10/2013 3:24:03 PM (GMT-6)

ConcernedMom22, sorry to hear about your daughter. The last LLMD that we saw told us that we had to treat all issues at the same time to get rid of them. We tried that for close to 3 months without any change.
sure, I am happy to talk to you. Can you email me offline?

xrunner-
No, my daughter has never had the Gardasil vaccination.

Concernedmom

I honestly wish I knew. I've talked to others and we are in the same boat. We got the third vaccine shot... Then around 4-6 months later we would wake up and feel different.napparently it is possible to take that long to have an interaction with the immune system.

Take a look at this link.

http://autismapocalypse.com/

Apparently it is possible a vaccine can reactivate Lyme when your immune system was doing well enough to fight it off. I don't know what to do or believe anymore. What I DO know is that I had a positive IgM result for Babesia Duncani in October. So, my thinking is that, if it was "reactivated," wouldn't it be a positive IgG? Or did I still have an active infection from childhood (I remember my parents pulling a tick off my head in elementary school) and the vaccine is just causing the trouble? I have no night sweats, chills, etc.

All my life Inhave had bad social anxiety, afraid and sometimes unable to express my thoughts coherently when speaking in class, however, I could write one hell of an essay. I did well in school. I also have had fatty cysts all over my body which LLMD thinks is Bartonella, but I've had those since childhood. However, they have increased over the years. My immune system has been fine all my life. Able to fight off colds, fevers, etc. never really that sick. Just a lot of ear aches when I was little. I just don't know.

Lots of weird stuff... 7 months into treatment with little improvement. However, I guess I have more good days a month. I am praying that the vaccine wears off as most do within 5 years and/or treatment eventually starts to take hold.

If anything, I would take Chlorella to find to all the aluminum from the Gardasil vaccine and other crap that's in it. It is helping me I think. Try to get an ART test for fungus and viruses.

BackToTheTurf18,

How is the Hansa trip going? Any more updates? Would love to hear your experience!

-Shannon