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Posted 1/24/2013 7:05 PM (GMT 0)
So last night I began Super Artemisinin, by Allerg Research Group. I took 200 mg, in 3 days I increase to 400. I woke up this morning with horrible hip, knee, leg, and glute (muscles in my butt) pain. The rest of my body feels like it got hit by a truck! Has anyone ever herxed like this from Artemisinin? Maybe it has something to do with the amount of everything else I am taking?

My list:

Mepron: 2 tsps daily (1500 mg)

Azithromycin: 600 mg

Doxy: 400 mg

Resveratrol 500 mg

Saventaro 40 mg

Eluthero 1000 mg

fish oil - 4000

probiotics

biotin - 10 mg

ashwaganda - 400 mg

l- lysine 500 mg

licorice root - 450 mg

ADR

milk thistle 350 mg

garlic - 600 mg

american ginseng - 648 mg

Thanks for any imput.

Samantha

Posted 1/25/2013 4:30 AM (GMT 0)
I have herxed on artimisinin! without any other abx. It works. Herbal abx can be very effective and cause herx just like pharma abx. Detox is the answer.

You are also taking garlic and two abx..that is a lot of bug killing stuff!! even without the artimisinin. Killing bacteria and viruses, both. artimisinin may work on parasites, too.

I remember my doc telling me to increase detox while on it.

I would cut the dose down or stop and feel better and then start more slowly. Increase detox and water.

detox suggestions: Colonics and enamas have been a mainstay for me for a long time...the gut can get sluggish even if things are moving daily with so much toxins being dumped from bug killing.

Also, bentonite clay and chlorella soak up toxins in the gut..but take away from medicine by a few hours.

I do not see any detox help in the gut in your protocol..the milk thistle helps liver...not sure about a couple of the others.

these are just some ideas..good luck!
Posted 4/26/2013 11:43 AM (GMT 0)
I purchased artemisia annua in liquid form. I started a few drops at a time and increase the drops daily. This is the only way I can survive because I am very sensitive. It comes from Vitacost.
Posted 4/26/2013 10:19 PM (GMT 0)

Hi Samjones

I am on some similar stuff as you(not all however). You are taking a lot of stuff.  Artemisinin is so effective that you have to watch it...from the standpoint of dieoff and effects to the liver,spleen, and kidneys, hemoglobin etc. I've had to cut back so much so because of the impacts to all mentioned. Since Babesia has impacted my CNS the ART hit my head first. But herxing in other ways also --- digestive, heart, ribs etc. Its no fun but there should be light at the end of tunnel. It's like an onion, one layer is being treated at a time.

Lately, I have been using Smilax for neurotoxin and mop up. I really like it but it is a diuretic.

How do you like ashwanganhdia? I recently take it and I like it to treat sleep issues, improve stamina etc.

My suggestions are to support the Liver, Spleen and Kidneys. Find the detox formula that fits you and stay the course. It will get better but it sounds like the amount of junk (dieoff) your body can not handle it right now. Take it easy and good luck

Posted 4/28/2013 7:00 PM (GMT 0)
I too always herx from artiminisin, which is why my dr thinks I have Babs. I tested negative on the FISH test from Igenex.

She also wants me to add in Mepron, but I feel that the art. is all my body can take right now, esp. until I get the MThfr issue figured out and can detox better.
Posted 4/29/2013 11:08 AM (GMT 0)
I always herx from the Nutricology Arteminisin. Being it's the extract part of the plant the gets the bug, it's really strong. I brain herx as my infection primary stuff is head brain, and eyeballs. Both herx.
Posted 4/29/2013 5:26 PM (GMT 0)
I took something with artemesia in a few months back and felt like I had been hit by a truck! Strong stuff! Go slow!
Posted 4/30/2013 3:02 AM (GMT 0)
I had to stop taking it altogether. I was supposed to build up to 3 twice daily, but I didn't get past one a every other day (only for a week or so). I had terrible joint pain, i spent days and days in bed. I tried one a week in an effort to stick with the plan and build up, but every time I ended up bed ridden again. My LLMD switched me to Crypto-Plus Microbial Balancer #2 today. I'm hoping I can handle this one!
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