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Posted 5/28/2013 4:55 PM (GMT 0)
Hi everyone,

I decided to join this forum because I have a question and was hoping someone could shed some insight or share their experiences. Yesterday I received my bottle of jernigans anti tox cns/pns. I took one third of a dose and felt a very strange sensation in the top of my forehead (felt a cold sensation under the skin). I then went to sleep and had night sweats, fitful sleep and headache (I've experienced the same when I've herxed before). But i thought you were not supposed to herx on this stuff?

Currently Im taking a break from treatment and just working on detoxing, so theres been no other meds or herbal treatments taken (except for my supplements that I've been taking for awhile). Also I should note that I've had Botox injected for migraines two months ago and I'm wondering if the anti tox is targeting that (the cold sensation is over two of the injection sites. The Botox was unsuccessful so I hope it is being removed).

This morning I took the same dose and again experienced the cold sensation (I also have a headache but that can be from the bad sleep I had). I sent an email to Sara Jernigan (as she had emailed me about shipping) with my question and got a very strange and unsatisfactory response. Can anyone share their experiences with me? I feel very alone in all this! Thanks!
Posted 5/28/2013 10:10 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Prairiegirl and welcome!

I took the Neuro-Antitox CNS/PNS many years ago and I had no bad reactions, only feeling better.  When I started Dr. J's protocol I had a "clean" body meaning there were no traces of antibiotics, other medicines, foreign substances, etc. in my system.

It's very possible that the botox could be causing this.  According to Wikipedia it states that botox also known as Botulinum toxin is a protein and neurotoxin produced by the bacterium Clostridium botulinum.[1][2] It is the most acutely toxic substance known, with an estimated human median lethal dose of 1.3–2.1 ng/kg intravenously or intramuscularly and 10–13 ng/kg when inhaled.[3] Botulinum toxin can cause botulism, a serious and life-threatening illness in humans and animals. Popularly known by one of its trade names, Botox, it is used for various cosmetic and medical procedures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulinum_toxin

So my guess (I'm not a doctor) is yes, the Neuro-Antitox is most definitely targeting the botox.  If I were in your shoes, I would have the botox removed asap and then start with detox baths, dry skin brushing, foot baths, (not in that order).  After you open your pores so that the toxins can come out, then I would start with the Neuro-Antitox Formula. 

Do you plan on doing Dr. J's protocol entirely? 

I hope this helps,

Denise

Posted 5/28/2013 10:28 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Prairiegirl!
I'm not a doctor either (nor do I play one on tv. :)) but I have to agree with Deeja. Botox is a neurotoxin and your body will recognize it as such. I take the CNS/PNS formula as well and have for about 3 mos. and didn't have anything but good side effects from it.

This is pure conjecture, but since the sensations are occurring around your injection sites it must be the formula working on getting rid of the Botox. I'm sorry you didn't get better info from Sara--that's disappointing. I don't know if you read Dr. J's book or not, but it's my understanding that his formulas almost never cause an allergic reaction, etc. so I wouldn't worry about that. But if you are too uncomfortable, maybe you can do what Deeja suggested and try getting rid of the Botox, if possible, detox alot more and then re-try the formula to see if you don't have a better result.

Hope this helps as well!
Posted 5/28/2013 10:36 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for your reply. I was hospitalized in the winter time for neurological problems the doctors couldn't figure out and I was reacting to every medication they gave me, so they though I might have migraines - which is why I was injected with Botox (this was per-Lyme diagnosis).

Denise, when you say remove the Botox, what do you mean? Detoxing? I have been detoxing (Epsom salt baths, dandelion tea, tons of water, lymph massage, hot/cold showers, whatever I am able to do I'm doing it, although I'm mostly bed ridden).

I'm not sure if I'm going to do the full protocol. It looks very promising and I like the fact that its natural, but the response I got from Dr.Sara was very strange and sort of threw my confidence the products. But, if I did I would definitely want to read the book first. I've heard good things about dr. David though.

Thanks so much for replying!!
Posted 5/29/2013 12:14 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks Shabbychic,
I think I understand now - get the Botox out through detoxing then do the anti-tox. I think I may give the anti tox another go, since I do really want the Botox gone! Its so interesting that its going after the Botox, but I guess it targets neuro toxins and that's what Botox is.
Thank you so much for your responses. I live in western Canada and we don't have Lyme disease here (hear my eyes rolling, haha).
Thanks!
Posted 5/29/2013 12:27 AM (GMT 0)
Oh also, does the Jernigan protocol help with Bart and mycoplasma? I apologize, because eventhough I've read so much information this past while about natural treatments, I'm getting mixed up about what treats co infections. My Lyme brain can't handle it all, haha.

Thanks again for your replies, even though I have good family support, navigating and dealing with this disease can be so lonely!
Posted 5/29/2013 12:27 AM (GMT 0)
Hi again Prairiegirl,

Sorry, I didn't mean getting the Botox removed since it can't be removed but from what I read (I had to bing it), botox does wear off by itself.  Some articles say it can take 4 to 6 months.  Where the botox goes I have no idea, if I were you I would ask your doctor.  On the bright side, the botox should be leaving your system in another 2 to 4 months. 

I honestly don't know if the neuro-antitox can bind up the botox, but I don't think the Neuro-Antitox could hurt unless it is really paining you.  Then don't take it.

I wish I knew more about botox, I had no idea it was used for migraines..  I thought it was a cosmetic thing.  Duh!!

All I can suggest is to keep up what you have been doing, the detox baths, dry skin brushing, etc.  I wonder if a infrared sauna would help sweat out the botox?   I am thinking out loud...  I really have no idea..

Keep us updated okay?

Denise

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