Bartonella leg pain.

@ Onepixel - if you decide to use a US LLMD there is one in Plattsburg NY and one in Buffalo NY. You seem to be inbetween the two.

@1runner - you're welcome about the link. That was the first time I had seen that one as well.

I had heard about the new clinic in BC. Was excited at first that maybe some help would be forthcoming, but then after a reality check, realized it would be as you say it is: a lot of hype to make the government look good, but no real help. Sorry about that.

Our LLMD suggested the Marshall protocol once - my response was the same as yours. The human body was not designed to survive with no vit D, or why the skin colour differences with changing latitude? If decreased vit D was actually helpful to the immune system, greater skin pigmentation at northern latitudes would have been an evolutionary advantage.

Hello, regarding Magnesium from earlier in this thread -

BLACK TEA is a pretty good source - I don't know the amount numbers but I do know -

Magnesium is an antispasmodic - relieving spasms like muscle cramps. Doan's Back Pills use Magnesium for back pain.

Calcium helps us absorb the Mag. A warm cup of tea with milk really helps with mentrual cramps (I call it Linda's cure after the nurse friend who taught me about it) (Bless her soul many times over.)

This may help with the leg trouble, I don't know. There is the nice benefit of having been field tested by billions of people over centuries and having the mild side effects known from caffeine.

I helped with a dog once who was having seizures after nursing her puppies, due to a severe shortage of Calcium.

I also mentioned in a thread about Manganese and Epilepsy/seizures that

HEMP SEED is very high in Manganese (shortages are linked to seizures) but also in Magnesium! It's a small serving size for a big dose - 3 tablespoons gives 45% RDA!!!!! They're pretty tasty too.

Sweet or savory it mixes well with many foods. I put it in quesadillas or on Nuttella on toast.

Maybe some of this will help fight off the greedy little nutrient sucking b@$+@^&$.

Are you trying to start on the full doses? That could be a real problem maker. You need to ease into those doses - even though some are only a few drops! And please don't make the mistake of starting more than one thing at a time and then give it a couple or three days to be sure that it is tolerated.

I know red root and cat's claw are pretty strong.

Both! LOL! Sorry! Really it's both. It's quite strong for anyone with a heavy load of the bacteria - which you obviously have - which will cause a bad herx (overload of toxins being released into the blood stream).

I would highly suggest that you start off with only 1 drop of cat's claw once a day and see how you do. If there are no ill effects, go to 1 drop twice a day. If there are no ill effects with that, go to 2 drops in the am and one drop in the pm....and so on until you are at the 5 drops twice a day.

Personally I would do the same exact thing with the Red root/dandelion mix too. You might be able to ramp up quickly, but it's always best to use caution - remember you are quite ill!!!

Are you getting acupuncture for your leg pain? That was the only thing that would touch it, much less keep it under control.

I am dealing with a 40 year old Bartonella infection, but I did not know it until about 8 months ago! I have been on full disability for over 10 years due to the pain in the legs and feet. I am not using an MD as none of the many I have seen could offer real solutions much less a diagnosis. Here are some of the tings that I have found to be a benifit...
I have had great success with a product called Nerve Fix. I Also like Pinnella for the burning pain. Nothing beats a really HOT soak or steam ( do this two or three times a day.
the Bart neuro toxins must pass through the small intestines to exit but are prone to re-absorption so a frequent gut detox is a must, I use a cleanse product called Perfect 7 in Silk Coconut milk.
I have just started using evening primrose oil in the evening but after only a few days Im not sure it is doing much.
avoid flour, all milk products, any added phosphates, all soy products and refined sugars
Eating lots of heavy protein helps. I have by default ended up on something like the Paleo diet.
I find that oxygen really help calm things down, I have found oxygen concentrators on craigs list for around $100 but would pay a whole lot more knowing what I know.
I have been following the Salt C+ system for 2 months and can actually say I think I am beating the Bartonnella, but it is painful to do. you really do have to feel worse to get better. Just know that the faster you kill it off the more you are going to hurt.
good luck and know that you are not alone in your suffering.