Lawsuit

The campaigning Lyme activists have been doing is making some difference - AZ health dept. now admits Lyme exists there - that is a little improvement. The West Los Angeles vector control dept. has posted a map of confirmed Bb infected ticks - 9 sites in one part of one county. There is some change happening.

 All the little steps help but without publicity there will be a painfully slow pace - like the last 30 years.

A case against the US for weaponized Lyme is nearly impossible to win. If you want progress, go after treatment. There's less threat to people in power. Also, more people will believe.

 If Lyme is a weapon then do you really think a suit would be allowed? Natl. security. And how easy is it to make people look like whacko conspiracy theorists? Not too hard to discredit people. Testimony from lots of people who's  MEASURABLE symptoms improved is useful.

However, the evidence from carefully conducted research can make a good case that CDC recognized treatment protocols are woefully outdated.

 Don't expect someone to backdown graciously if they have to loose face or admit to criminal acts. Leave someone a way to change with minimal personal pain.

Vengeance is not the goal, proper health care is. I think it's Sun Tsu who says basically, if someone is cornered with only death as an option, they will fight to the death. It's safer to allow a retreat!

Publicity is the answer. Think about a couple hot button topics for the last many years. 1. legalizing marijuana 2. legalizing gay marriage. REGARDLESS of your personal opinions on either, both ideas are getting more support in the media, and the polls. Why? Real life stories making the issues about individuals.

When people see the real impact of policy on individuals it is hard to support something that hurts the individuals. I don't want to spark debate on the merits or demerits of those issues above.

 I want to remind people that if someone meets a kid and sees he has constant pain,  most people will care. If another person can stand up and say "I used to hurt like he does. I had to get treatment outside of insurance to get better, but I AM BETTER.", people will begin to recognize the injustice.

We need the support of newspapers, tv, radio, the bloggosphere, magazines, etc. It is not enough to say I need help, we need to prove that the right help can even cure non-existant chronic Lyme or post treatment Lyme syndrome.

A study which shows a squirrel which tests clean can transmit Lyme to a tick helps, if people hear about it.

A study which shows post treatment monkeys still have Bb bacteria present  helps, if people hear about it.

Hey Arthur - Q- r u SCA? look at my name. Just wonderin.

I do agree when someone said, god help us all

how many of us in the USA alone are sick,? I don't know the true numbers

well we know the cdc does not have accurate count

how many have died from this?

meaning,  there is enough of us,  to come together for a common cause

our voice be heard in such a manner that will be taken seriously

just to make a point known....

some of us are dying, and they don't have time to wait

for at least some recognition as a whole, that is is real and messes u up bad

beyond what a person who has not been in the trenches with family or has it themselves

that people like us need more support

and help and accurate testing

and treatment quickly and doctors to be educated, and police and psychologists and counslors

and laws for employment to protect the employees that they can go back to work later on

I pray and intend for some steps to be taken in this direction

it is totally worth a shot

lyme has been re eningered on plum island, there is some proof, or at least proof that ticks were infected

we know lyme has been around

that is why they saw this as a possibility

unit 257

we have a case here, totally,  in some form

so now, it is about getting it together by the best lawyers in the world,

to carefuly word it, present it,

prayers that this can happen in my lifetime

And, how credible is the evidence for weaponization? That's a subject that will make anyone sound like a wingnut unless it's beyond sustantial.

Post Edited (California Cat) : 6/25/2013 12:36:00 AM (GMT-6)

Violets, I'm not sure I believe you. You might just be a pigment of my imagination. Did you really say an ID changed his mind? "The tide is turning..."

No research based evidence of the effectiveness of long term antibiotic use? Hmm. There's been human clinical trials going for ... years. The testimony of patients who have improved, and been able to shed the rx for the misdiagnoses, and have recovered the meaningful, productive lives they missed is evidence.

When a Psychiatric drug is evaluated in clinical trials they have to use some subjective evaluations! How do you feel? Do you still want to die? Do you hate the world? Something that lets them know if the drug is changing a person's head!

It is not unscientific to use the personal experiences of patients to evaluate the effectiveness of a treatment! The fact that many people use a combo of treatments makes it harder, but not impossible!

Big Pharma will comb the far flung reaches of the world to find a useful plant. They will take hundreds of species to investigate. We have edited down the list quite a bit. People have found treatments that work.

 Even if there's a need to test a hundred or two different plants and chemicals, and in hundreds of combos, it's what they already do. No need to face death by pirhana or angry tribesman. Don't go catch a mystery bug near the Ebola river, we've got a foundation for you to work from already near home.

Lymies have already been Guinea Pigs - this stuff has been tested for use in humans by humans. And even if a treatment is herbal, plant based and not patentable, I don't see herbal supplements as small potatos and not profitable!

The most common infectious disease in the US, known to exist around the world, still spreading, with a pool of patients still undiagnosed! Wow, can you say windfall? Just show me the chemical process by which your treatment works and that it works then I'll buy as many doses as I need.

People already buy, but if the purchases get focused on some proven, standardized products, that's going to be a lot of sales. And, since Lyme gets it's nasty self into different parts of us, that means there's room for more than one product. The research can do double duty. Some of it is bound to apply to more that one strain, or more than one area of symptoms!

I see a big carrot here.

Last thought, if a company wants a boost of recognition, there's a pretty big network of Lyme torch bearers.