Sponaugle wellness

I would love updates as well! I considering this.

Thank you for posting. How long was your son there? I have lyme too and a few of the co-infections.

I would love to hear more.

Thanks so much.

Sarah.

Our son was there for 7 weeks. He is in his 30's and he found out he had Lyme for many years, His "symptoms" were Restless Legs and Arms, 24/7. He didn't just have a few sensations, but literally shook, sometimes his whole body, and it rendered him sleepless and nearly disabled. He also had chronic pain, brain fog, and nearly constant infections that seemed to be antibiotic resistant. Sponaugle Wellness ordered tests that proved his immune system and T-cells were nearly gone! We knew he was sick, but not to the extent that he was, and we couldn't find anyone who could help. had been to numerous Drs.   As I said, even prestigious, medical school clinics only offered pain meds.
Sponaugle Wellness was a true answer to prayer. He started healing nearly immediately after beginning treatment and now feels better than he has for years. Our son returned home this week and his body may finish the healing, otherwise he may need to go back for a week in a few months.
We also met other patients who were very ill, and watched them become healthier. Dr. Sponaugle's treatments, which are natural supplements integrated with western medicine, seem to be a great combination to provide healing.

Post Edited (notthatold) : 11/3/2013 8:57:53 PM (GMT-7)

Maybe I used the wrong word in my last post. I get confused between holistic and homeopathic. Sponaugle treatments consist of natural supplements, amino acids, vitamins, AND prescription medicines. (Sorry, we are new to this, also.)

Hi justascarf2, Can you possibly please message me? Please. Re the Spongaugle clinic. Thank you, desperately need some support to make right decision. Have been sick for decades. Thank you.

justascarf2 said...
Hey all -
I just got back from Sponaugle Wellness and was actually there while Yolanda was there. I can tell you that the program is ever evolving so things are constantly changing based on new research and new protocols that they develop. From when I started until when I ended, people coming in were on different payment plans and in some cases treatment plans. It is expensive but from the people I met who left before me, most all seem to be doing really well and those who took off early seem to be struggling more then others.

Here is what I can tell you... about 80% of the patients have the HLA genes for multi-suceptibility (Sponaugle's group refers to it as Mold and Lyme gene) or the Mold gene. These genes keep you from being able to build antibodies to mold, lyme and other toxins depending on which genes you have. Because of this, your body stores these toxins into your tissues, muscles and organs and over time it adds to your biofilm. The big focus at Sponaugle Wellness is on your brain gut connection and how to balance out your hormones and imbalances in your brain chemistry so that you can then clean up your gut to build up your immune system since the majority of your immune system is in your gut. If you break up enough of the biofilm with an improved immune system, you too can fight lyme, mold, and other tb illnesses that come along for the ride.

There is a big look into mold at this center which has been a huge eye opener for me and my family. We have had mold in the past but were unaware that how we remediatied it likely only opened up our lives to more micotoxins from mold spores. The belief here is that if you don't get rid of the mold in your body and break up the biofilm that you will never get better. So the focus seems to be more on that first and then the lyme and some of the other treatments will get the rest that you have brewing in you. It turns out that after having my family tests, we all have mold levels higher then the CDC allowed levels so we are clearly living in a moldy environment.

There is a misnomer about this clinci... they do use a small dose of iv antibiotics if you have certain issues like bartonella. They will also use mepron if you have babesia (I think that's it but I don't babesia so I can't speak to that). They will also use some prescription drugs when you need them like those to block the over electrification of the brain. Because of their use of supplements, herbal protecols, prescriptions and vitamins and minerals, they seem to keep the herxing to a minimum which is pretty nice. Everything is used for a temporary bit of time and based on you and only your needs. They will use bioidentical hormones to help with plummeting hormones during a killing cycle and they watch you like a hawk. It is outpatient, everything at the clinic is basically via IV and a lot of proprietary IVs with lots of good things in them. I can tell you that as someone with a huge science and brain background, they have done their research. I have seen and read some of the same research and they are really pretty ahead of the curve in a lot of areas compared to some of the other LLMDs out there.

This is not for everyone but it seems to work for a lot of people. They have about a 9% failure or relapse rate which is pretty impressive for the over 12,000+ patients that have walked through those doors. While there I saw many people who were wheeled in and were on their last leg with things like organ failure in addition to lyme and mold and the rest of it. Many walked out or moondanced out and it was quite amazing. From what I have found from staying in touch with about 50+ people that after leaving the program and being home for about 4-5 weeks, they are feeling amazing and their post treatment testing is showing that they have done a massive job at getting rid of most of the lyme/mold/etc. at least to the point that we can say we've gotten rid of it.

As for cost for the program I would contact them and talk to a patient coordinator who can answer what their current plan is. From what I heard it's $3000 a week including the majority of the supplements and doctors visits as well as daily nurse visits and all of your IVs. You do get multiple IVs on most days and are on a lot of supplements while in the program. When I started we were doing weekly blood draws, weekly external kits to test for mold and weekly amino acid testing and seeing the doctor with your nurse weekly. I was also seen by a nurse daily who checked my symptoms and was able to work with the doctor on the spot to change up my IVs and add or subtract what was needed. The majority of the patients I met were there for 7-9 weeks.

It's a big time and money commitment and I will have to see how I feel as time goes on. I've only been home for a few days so I can't say how I'm going to be but I'll let you know in a month or so. I would say that this group was able to identify issues that I've been having for a long time, show or tell me why (which other docs have not been able to) and were able to provide me with some different testing that showed my assumed diagnosis like bartonella and lyme. My doctors were treating me based on symptoms but could never get a positive antibody test for these, not even Igenix. When I saw all of my biofilm and then saw the spirochetes in it I realized why. As I've broken up the biofilm, I've been able to get some positive antibodies which is pretty cool so I'm finally getting the validation that my science based mind needed.

I thought the doctors were great, the nurses were pretty good and all in all, I had a great experience and as we go through follow ups I hope to find more results from my blood testing as well as just feeling better that show that I'm on the road to healing after 20+ years of struggling. And as for Envita, I don't know much about this center but there were at least 5 or 6 former patients from there, two of which were local to the Envita area in AZ and they were all being treated here after unsuccessful treatment at Envita. I am sure you can say this about any program but I liked to listen to them complain about what didn't work there. I think Envita sounds great but from the chatter I heard, I think their program is slightly different, treatments are less aggressive at Envita and they don't spend much time focusing on some of the same mind/body connections or enough on the mold connection at Envita. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing but that's what I heard.

I hope this has helped. I will gladly share with you more as the time goes by. Right now I am trying to get readjusted to life after being away for a while and trying to figure out how to remmediate the mold in my house. And one thing I did learn was that Candida is interpreted as a mold in your body. IF you have have the mold or lyme and mold/multisuceptible genes that you have to get your candida under control for the rest of your life. They do focus on candida cleanses to help with that as well at Sponaugle Wellness. Just something for others to think about. I know I've fought candida for the past 10 years and had an uphill battle so hope I can get that under control!

My wife has neurotoxin disease aka mold and Lyme. We contacted the Sponaugle WC. We both spoke with the patient coordinator or should I say he spoke and we listened. My wife has gone to a dozen LLDs. They all use supplements, antibiotics, infra-red saunas & rife machines. And they all are very expensive especially the SWC. What I cannot figure out is what does Sponaugle do any different than if my wife checked into a hotel near her LLDs office, had IV drips, got tested everyday etc. Someone made a comment that the herxing was not bad at the SWC, but the coordinator spoke about kill week and how bad the patient will feel. It's wonderful that Yolanda is feeling better but that is one testimony. I feel like I am looking at the thread of a faith healer's website where only the success stories are reported. Not enough time has passed to know if it is worth $50k to go to Florida. Everything the patient coordinator mentioned that would be in the drip my wife has taken in some form or another. He would not tell me some if the other ingredients of the mix which is a red flag-snake oil. For $3000 a week I better be told what they are infusing into my wife's body. The OC also said that they "can cure Lyme" if you finish the treatment. That is quite bold to make a statement like that. What if my wife us not cured? Do we get a refund or a convoluted explanation of my wife's genetic type or her unique brain chemistry. I want to hear some honest testimonies about the Sponaugle clinic. A few success stories does not impress me at all. The same can be said about drug rehabs where people are cured of addictions after a few weeks but the people still addicted ate not reported. I cannot believe one doctor on the world has found the cure to Lyme and mold disease. Sounds like a scam to me and I don't want to spend $50k to find out. People with chronic Lyme are desperate and I have witnessed integrative medicine doctors take advantage of these people by making grandiose promises and charging them over-inflated prices.

Thanks so much to all for sharing! It is so encouraging to hear about your journeys and what has helped. I would really appreciate learning more about Spinaugle from those who have been/are currently there. I have done much work to change my diet, detox, have seen many Dr. for treatment, but continue to just barely hang on. I want to be well!! Though the cost is great, it would seem less than than the cost of continued failed treatments. I just want to gain enough assurance that the treatment will work!

I wonder why no updates or replies from justascarf2 regarding his/her treatment at the Sponaugle Center...Justascarf2 certainly seemed to know the most about the scene there, clear experience of it and an ability to think clearly and creitically about his/her experience. No wonder so many have been asking for a reply and/or update from that poster. Please justascarf2, let us know what's afoot, and how you've been doing.

Hi Creature,
Justascarf hasn't been an active member for a while now.

Thank You Traveler. I have not spoke with anyone at Sponaugle wellness, just doing research as I am in the infancy stages of dealing with this disease.

Hello to my new friends with Lyme and etc.! I've been sick for 20 years. I'm 48. I didn't tell anyone for years because of fear; my marriage was already unsteady. It's been a long, painful journey; alot of hurt. I'm sure many of you, as I have, been ridiculed, walked through hell and back, husband left, rejected by doctors, misdiagnosed, misunderstood, siblings unsupportive and much more; yet God has been good and used this in my life and my four childrens' lives. Other kids whose moms are sick gravitate to them. Their kindness is so real. I believe "nothing just happens." (A recent message by T.D. Jakes) At 1:30 am I looked up Lyme Support and instead, Dr. Sponaugle's name popped up. I read a bit, then clasped my hands over my mouth not to bust out balling! I read, cried, prayed and looked over videos for two hours. I called the next day, and have the best Patient Coordinator! We "hit it off" very well. He and I talked for hours last week! He listened intently as I rambled. He spoke personally about himself and his wife, their faith and their church. Of course, he told me about the Wellness Center, recent patients and Dr. Sponaugle. He "just happens" to be a Christian and encouraged me to read Psalm 143. It's amazing! A day later, not realizing the time change, we spoke while he was home! The following day, we emailed. I don't know what my future holds regarding Dr. Sponaugle. I have no money; the best dad in the world was put in an Alzheimer's home 11 months ago I cannot ask my mother for help. However, I do know that "nothing just happens" and "there is no recession in Heaven!" I'm waiting, reading everything I can (that I haven't already read over the last 20 years!) and praying for clear direction. For those who understand, it's stepping out in faith - moving forward, believing what is unseen. Pray for me when you think of me. I'll be checking in on you as well. Remember, "nothing just happens!" Talk to ya'll later!

I've heard several success stories about Sponaugle, and as a year and a half of IV antibiotics has yet to make much of a dent in my symptoms, it's beginning to sound very attractive. I have Lyme and lots of babesia, as well as erlichia and clinical bartonella. My worst problems are cognitive - there are hours of the day when I cannot read or converse at all because my brain simply won't process information, and when it is working somewhat (like now), it does so in slow motion. I'm a young person and completely dependent on family to finance my treatment, and since my dad's a scientist, he's going to need solid scientific data before committing to such an expensive treatment. So I have several questions - if anyone could answer one or more of them, I would be very grateful!

1) Does anyone know if Dr. Sponaugle publishes? Could you point me to the studies/research informing his work, and indicating how he is different from other LLMDs?

2) Has anyone with severe cognitive difficulties had success at Sponaugle? If so, did it last?

3) Does anyone know the success rate at Sponaugle, and could you please point me to the source of that statistic?

4) What exactly does Dr. Sponaugle do to break up biofilm?

Thank you, friends - I wish you the best on your journey, too.

And divamom4, know that I'm praying for you! (Please pray for me too.) :) Take care!