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Posted 12/9/2013 11:22 PM (GMT 0)
I had to go off my abx, because of c. diff. Now, I'm using herbs, and gradually going up on the dosage. Throughout the whole lyme process, I've been pretty hyper, but when I herx, I go into a kind of mania (not a good mania, a bad one). I don't think it's the Lyme-induced bipolar, bc. I don't really cycle; I'm kind of manic all the time. It's more like ADHD (which I never had before Lyme), but the mania is more than even that. I'm practically delirious, and I send these really stupid emails to people. My family thinks I'm crazy.

When I was on a full dose of Flagyl for the c. diff., I think I went into a herx, and called my friends and family, and told them I thought I was going to die, and that I loved them, or something of the sort. (The c. diff. was indeed bad, and it was drug resistant, but I still shouldn't have done that). My sister thought I was absolutely batty, and I know she thinks I'm out of it.

Does anyone else have trouble with mania?

Margaret
Posted 12/10/2013 4:41 AM (GMT 0)
Hello teragram, yes i have this too. I think it is a herx. I notice that i get shaky and feel my body tremble. Then i become emotionally out of control cry it was so bad over the summer i had to start on celexa. I think it is part of this stinkin disease!! Do you take anything when you feel like that?
Posted 12/10/2013 5:25 PM (GMT 0)
Although there's no doubt that Lyme has an effect on the brain and it's different for each of us, but have you had a 24 hour saliva test to see how your adrenals function throughout the day?

I've experienced that kind of hyperactivity, but not from the same things. Mine was short lived or due to trying to come off of a Benzo drug too fast. Not a pleasant thing at all!!

I've seen posts about children with Lyme have this issue. It's being suggested that those children be checked for Strep. or that it's just a symptom of Lyme.
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Posted 12/11/2013 12:06 AM (GMT 0)
No have not had saliva test. How would I get that?

I realized two things last night. One is that the hyper feeling gets worse (almost unbearable) when I'm herxing.

The other is that I've had a complete thyroidectomy, and have never been able to get my blood levels straight with medication. I'm either hypo or hyperthyroid. I was really stupid, and I started using iodine drops in addition to my thyroid meds, because I don't use iodized salt. That made me go into the hyperthyroid zone.

However, my brain is pretty much a popcorn popper all the time; it's just not as horrifying. The problem is that I never get anything done. I think it's the Lyme-ADD thing, and I can't focus. My LLMD shrink suggested Ritalin, but my cardiologist said, "no," bc I have tachycardia. If you saw my house . . . .

Margaret
Posted 12/11/2013 3:27 AM (GMT 0)
Flagyl made me manic the first time I had it.

Not sure if it's had that exaggerated an effect on me since, but at the time it was really severe and sudden...within about an hour, I felt this rush of emotion, I was overcome by how beautiful everything was (even sort of mundane things), and I could not sit still.

I also had impulses to call people, email, whatever. And I had this anxiety that suddenly the happiness would end and I would die - fall off the manic cliff. Pretty macabre but that's how I felt.
Posted 12/11/2013 3:49 AM (GMT 0)
That's weird; that's pretty similar to what happened to me. How did those people react.

I guess that's why some doctors confuse Lyme with bipolar, and/or ADHD.

Margaret
Posted 12/11/2013 3:54 AM (GMT 0)
I was able to stop myself from contacting anyone other than my husband. I called him at work and told him I felt that way, and he just sort of rolled with it. :)
Posted 12/11/2013 4:04 AM (GMT 0)
teragram, I spent one year totally titrating slowing off klonipin. pure hell still in withdrawal.

about 1 year after and up to the last months, I became a raging irritable sound sensitive lunatic. I was sending hateful emails to my family and treating my husband terribly. I would not leave the house and I felt terrible. One night I put something on their Facebook page and my husband's that was totally crazy and I have no memory of it. It scared me to death. My husband said he saw me on the computer late at night but I have no memory of it. I did take an ambien that night, and I have been told ambien can do this. Like your family, my family thinks I am nuts, and so does my husband's family.

I had to go on Lamictal to control this raging I have been told I have bipolar disorder but I never in the past acted like I had psychotic mania or the kinds of lows sever bipolar patients have. I have worked in the psychiatric field as a RN and I myself never felt I had experienced anything Like i saw some of patients experience.

In october it was confirmed I have lyme disease, and I have read that lyme can cause bipolar symptoms. I also have hashi disease and that too I am sure affects my mental functioning. I am concerned about your statement about taking iodine. There is a little iodine in my vitamin supplement. I feel so anxious at times, and jittery. I don't know if it is my thyroid, lyme, or just anxiety problem. I know it got so worse on rifampin which I had to stop because of elevated liver enzymes. I herxed bad on flagyl and could not tolerate it right now.

So many people do not understand what lyme does to you or low thyroid, that I just tell people I am ill and bipolar, and live with the stigma associated with having a mental illness. altho, I am intelligent, not seen as a crazy person to the few people I am close to and my horse trainer, I just have learned to try to cope, love myself. and I may be actually bipolar. my mother was a paranoid schizophrenic I think she was misdiagnosed and was bipolar or had an infection, could have been low thyroid because it happened right after the birth of her first child. but whatever reason, there is a little of my story. I am sorry you are having these problems I can relate to them
Posted 12/11/2013 1:45 PM (GMT 0)
Yes sometimes I feel like I am "out of my mind" so to speak, and I think definitely the bacteria and the herxing as well causes this issue for our brain. It is also causing me serious panic and other issues. I can relate. You aren't alone at all. I feel like this, like sometimes I am off the wall....
Posted 12/11/2013 3:11 PM (GMT 0)
Stress is really hard on the adrenals, add in chronic infections and it's even harder on the adrenals. If anyone hasn't had their adrenal glands tested via a 24 hour saliva test, I would greatly encourage you to do so. I was absolutely falling apart in every way when I finally found the practitioner that helped me to heal, and she almost wouldn't take me on because my adrenals were crashing. She was also the first doctor to ever mention this to me!!

I have found a great deal of help from this site: Stop The Thyroid Madness, as they cover not only thyroid issues, but adrenal issues as they usually go hand in hand when someone is dealing with chronic health issues.

Here is a link to a page on their site titled "How Adrenals Can Wreak Havoc" :www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/

I would encourage anyone with any concerns at all to read through this very informative site.

** A little disclaimer: I did not use their site for any testing, nor will I get any kind of compensation of any type for anyone visiting the site or ordering any thing from that site.
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