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Posted 3/31/2014 7:11 PM (GMT 0)
Hello!

So 2 weeks off abx right now. I feel GREAT except for my Babesia symptoms. I now firmly believe that I have gotten Lyme under control and Babesia is my main problem.

I bought some tonic water today because I read it has some quinine in it which is (sometimes) used to treat Babesia. I know it is rarely used anymore. 

I believe my Babesia load is high because I am herxing on this tonic water which has the smallest amount of quinine in it! I am still taking the C.S.A. tincture for it from Buhner too. Am I losing it or can I seriously herx from tonic water? I tried to Google info on it and I cannot find any.

Don't think I can keep drinking this stuff though because it's definitely the worst thing I ever tasted in my life.

I meet with my LLMD on Monday and I'm going to demand some type of Babesia treatment, whether it's natural or abx because I need it to go away!

Posted 3/31/2014 7:14 PM (GMT 0)
It helps with twitching too, I drink 4 oz a day at least to help my twitching.
Posted 3/31/2014 7:14 PM (GMT 0)
I did the exact same thing as you. Can you describe your herx? Tonic water is so awful Haha no wonder it was 88 cents for a 2 liter
Posted 3/31/2014 8:04 PM (GMT 0)
Oh I am so glad I'm not the only one doing this! lol. Good to know it helps with twitching too! I didn't know that.

My herx consists of increased head pressure...especially pressure at my temples. I also get extreme pressure behind my nose. I get a pressure type feeling at the base of my skull with dizziness... but more like I am walking on a rocking boat. Sometimes I get the feeling when I'm walking that my feet are sinking into and through the floor, like the feeling when you miss a step on a staircase.

I also get this WEIRD feeling in my thyroid, it's not pain it just feels strained if that makes any sense.

I also got SUPER hot and flushed. My skin is almost always flushed because I'm hot all the time with this.
Posted 3/31/2014 8:59 PM (GMT 0)
I have all those symptoms in your middle paragraph.

Do you ever feel so much pressure behind your nose that it feels like your going to get a massive nosebleed!? I do....I get a circle of numbness around my mouth and nose as well. The list goes on and on and on.... Bizarro
Posted 4/1/2014 4:40 AM (GMT 0)
you should continue treating for a few months after symptoms are gone. i dont want you to end up back where you started. sending positive thoughts !!
Posted 4/1/2014 1:15 PM (GMT 0)
Well dvlsfan30, thanks for the concern but I had to stop the abx temporarily after severe bouts of diarrhea which almost landed me in the ER along with a swollen and painful liver. My LLMD decided to take like a month vacation so I have been unable to see him. But I go on April 7th to see him.

Maine, yes the pressure behind my nose gets so severe that it actually surprises me that I DON'T have a nosebleed. I don't get numbness too much but more like I got novacaine at the dentist and it's starting to wear off...like a tingling feeling.
Posted 4/1/2014 1:48 PM (GMT 0)
Elleon, you can also try green tea for Babesia. You can drink the tea four times a day or take green tea capsules if you don't like the taste of it. I like the Bigelow classic decaffeinated brand best.

(-)-Epigallocatechin-3-gallate, which accounts for 50-80% of the total catechin in green tea has antioxidant, anti-inflammatory, anti-microbial, anti-cancer, and anti-trypanocidal activities.

Here is a link on how green tea kills Babesia: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20025823
Posted 4/2/2014 1:35 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Healing! I tried drinking the 4 cups a day a while ago... it was just too much and really made my gallbladder hurt. I don't know if it's because the tea was killing something or because it was just hurting my gallbladder.

I then bought the green tea capsules. I haven't taken them though and actually just decided to start taking them today!
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