Envita Medical Center Review

Hi I'd hate to be the one that sounds like they have an ax to grind, but I recently received treatment at Envita Medical Center in Scottsdale, AZ and figured I'd offer my experience with them to you all. I've heard rumors that Envita will stop at nothing to remove anything on the internet that paints them in a remotely negative light so hopefully this doesn't get taken down.

When I walked into their medical center I was not one of their more severe cases. My lyme had been active for less than a year at that point, and if anyone could've gotten better from their protocol it would've likely been me.

The main complaint I had heard about them was that they were extremely expensive and that isn't far off from the truth. I was skeptical to pour so much money into their facility but they had assured me that they were going to get me well and this was the last treatment I'd ever pay for. I inquired what their success rates were with lyme patients and they told me up to 90%. When I asked them to elaborate on what they consider a success they said that their patients will walk out in 8 weeks feeling healthy more than they feel lousy. Once again, I was skeptical but when you're desperate and when someone holds a carrot in front of your face like that its hard to turn it down.

I underwent their grueling treatment which centers around IV antibiotics that ended up being extended to 12 weeks. Their nursing staff is fantastic and their facility definitely is top-notch. A plus is that you're placed in a room with other lyme patients so you immediately have a support system to rely on.

But.. as everyone knows lyme is complicated and everyone's body is different. Envita does not really take that into account and essentially puts everyone into the same box. The young teenage girl who can't walk will get blasted with antibiotics from the onset because thats how their protocol is set up and their business is modeled on. I was one of the lucky ones, after vomiting nearly every day during IV treatments and going through absolute hell I walked out of the facility feeling 50%. No I did not hit remission, but I felt like it was only a matter of time until I made a full recovery. Nearly every other lyme patient was walking out of there in much worse shape than when they had walked in so I felt fortunate. I was sent home with an after-care protocol that centered on a rife machine and the Salt/Vit C plan. Note that every patient receives this same protocol and are sent away once their time is up regardless of the state their in.

As soon as I left the facility I went crashing back down. I did the protocol they had set forth for me, but after 3 months out of their facility and 6 months of treating with them I am in worse shape than when I walked in there. The sad part is that nearly all the patients I was in treatment with are in the exact same boat as I am. There are a couple who are doing much better, but they're the exception and not the rule. Their success rate is probably around 10-20%, not 90%.

I now have no funds left to pursue any other treatment. We feel that if I continued on IV ABX I would've eventually hit remission but they have you on a strict protocol that is meant to get you in and out so extending my IV ABX wasn't really an option with them. I have to sit around and hope the rife and salts will get the job done eventually. Its very easy to get caught up in facilities like this and I see many people on the internet asking around about Envita with no real answers. I figured Id provide you with my experience and hopefully it won't get taken down.

Any chance of a lawsuit? If you really feel like it is 10-15% walk out better than their statistics are more than deceiving.

You wouldn't prosecute them based on your experience. You would prosecute them for false advertisement and false statistics.

There is a lawsuit currently against a law school in DE for that same reason. "statistics" showed that 95% of graduates were able to obtain employment within 1 year. Dozens of students have had difficulty finding a job and argue that they wouldn't have spent that money if they had known that statistic was a farce.

Regardless,

I am so sorry that you had to go through this experience. I hope you can find what works.

Hey Don one of the patients I was in treatment with actually went to Hansa after Envita. I've heard mixed reviews on it, some people praise it and some speak negatively but I guess thats true of almost anything with this disease.

My post is in response to Envita Medical Center - I have personal experience of being cured of advanced breast cancer that spread in my body.  I was cured in January of 2010 and because I live in the area, have continued to do maintenance over the last few years.  So, I have met many, many people over the last few years with lyme and cancer.  The people who do the best at Envita are those that commit to a very strict diet and life style change.  The lyme patients, to me, seemed on the surface to be in worse shape that us cancer patients.  The lyme patients seemed to have suffered so much more in terms of loosing jobs, relationships, support of family and friends.  The cancer patients have the support of their family, friends and community that the lyme patients don't have in many cases because people don't understand how much the lyme patients suffer.  If you have lyme or cancer, I would highly suggest treatment at Envita.  But, I would not suggest it if you put the whole responsibility on the treatment and don't bring discipline to the table.  You will be wasting your money if that commitment and discipline is not there.  Lyme is horrible.  I've met lyme patients that considered taking their life over the years as a  result of  suffering with lyme before they got to Envita.  It has to be one of the cruelest, misunderstood diseases. 

Hi All,

I am new to your group and also an Envita failure. I have read 'word for word' the same posts from 'Silvamur' on sitejabber. The person uses a different name, but the same reviews are there. Paid review? My daughter also noticed that negative reviews will 'disappear'. Hmmmmmm

My posts on sitejabber tell of my sad saga, not only did I become among the long list of failures at Envita (for Lyme), but we initially went there because my 31 yo daughter had a very rare form of soft tissue sarcoma. I think the doctors at least owed her the truth that her cancer was too far advanced, too complicated, already been treated conventionally, something. All of the above were probably true, but she hung on to the hope that their cancer program would work for her. It did not.

My daughter spent 3 weeks in treatment there and suffered greatly, but tried to endure the grueling treatments. Her red blood cell counts dropped way too low. She realized it, the clinic only checked rbc counts weekly, rather than daily, she needed a transfusion days and days before she finally received it.

Right there in the lobby of Envita, where we were being told to go to a local hospital (affiliated with Envita)and it would take at least 24 hours to get a transfusion, I looked at my son-in-law and said, "Take her to Mayo Clinic, now! They have her records they will transfuse her blood today!" And that's what he did. The fact that her RBC was so low for so long allowed infections to take hold, gram negative. She died about 2 months later, still having those infections.

To sum this up, I agree that this clinic is over priced and doesn't not have the 90% cure rate that they talk about and they know that.
I think the staff can be uncaring and the front office was more concerned about getting off at 3:00 then allowing a patient's full day of treatment.
One of the nursing staff got really close to my daughter during treatments, then for whatever reason dumped her flat without explanation. My daughter felt bonded to her and crushed when the nurse ignored her from then on out. Lack of professionalism.
And yes, you do sign away your rights to a suit when you go there.

If you still decide to go to Envita and have cancer, DEMAND that your RBC is taken daily. Hopefully after the fiasco with my daughter, they can now do that test on site and the results aren't a WEEK out.

Great to see Blogs like this it really helps, I been struggling with Lyme disease for over 5 years and Have tried everything and been to many doctors and spent so much money with this horrible disease. I am currently an Envita patient and I can truly say they changed my life, i have not felt this good, really have never felt this good since I can’t remember when. I think it’s fair to share both positives and negatives. But compared to what I done before and where I been Envita saved my life. And other patients around me seem to be having really positive experiences. My recommendation is to each his own, blogs can be one sided and misleading and Envita really has taken great care of me.

Hi I just wanted to report that lots of what I have read and researched about the Envita center is that it's not really the best place to be treated for Lymes. I think the Spongealua center might have slightly better successful treatment rates, but even that place might only send you home feeling 80% better. I think the most successful treatments are those initiated by the patient, done by the patient, and are very long term. But perhaps some of these treatment facitlies can be helpful in giving the patient the upper hand in regaining their health. It will usually be upto the patient to continue this.

For me I think I will be using a detox like facility for sure towards the end of treatment to finally try and turn things around and clear out the toxins.

LymePickle I wholeheartedly disagree with what you say about patient initiated treatments. I am at Sponaugle right now. If it was not for them I would have never had a chance at getting better, I have some serious diagnoses that nobody else thought to check and I would have never even considered. I am posting about my experience on my blog. If Sponaugle cannot get me better then nobody can.

Thanks ToddPaul! Yes, I have that. I think I will do great too if I have enough money to finish. It is way more involved than I thought. Thanks for your support and reading what I write. I hope it will help people to make decisions about where to go with their treatment.

tommyboy I am not sure what you are talking about as far as Sponaugle being a pain management clinic? Are you sure you have the right place? Sponaugle is most definitely treatment for Lyme. 95% people here have Lyme.

Hey everyone , so glad I found this place . I have been struggling with Lyme and the cocktail of co-infections that go along with it ,for almost 20 yrs now. I went to Century Wellness in Reno NV back in 2001 and felt so much better for years after . But many major life stressors etc.. have me back down worse than ever. I'm very ill again and I'm desperate for help . I just sold my house so I finally have the money to go to some sort of clinic but I am very confused about which one . I am leaning toward Sponaugle . From what I have read the approach there seems to make much more sense . I honestly don't think my body could handle very strong abx right off . I am already so fragile and sick . I feel the things they do to get your brain chemistry balanced is so very critical as well as the genetic testing and dealing with mold issues .
But I'm also wondering if anyone knows about the New Life Medical Clinic in Gilbert , Az ? It seems they are up on all the neurotransmitter therapy , mold etc... I have a place to stay in Az which would be helpful , but don't want to go there just because of that . This is my last chance to get help and I need to spend my time and money very wisely . Any insight would be much appreciated . I live near Dallas Tx , so if you know a great LLMD around here that would be great as well . Thx

Are Lyme Pickle and Lyme Babe the same person? Just seems suspicious. Anyway, I wanted to say that Lyme disease is very complicated and you have to fight a lot of things like viral, fungal and parasitic as well as remove chemical/ environmental toxins and heavy metals. Envita sure has taught me a lot about Lyme disease and everyone here is in good spirits. So happy I came here! Treatment is really working!