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Posted 4/6/2014 11:16 AM (GMT 0)
I am looking to find out if treatment for Lyme disease/co-infections is successful at The International Bio Care Hospital, Tijuana, Mexico. Does anyone have experience with this clinic or any others in the U.S. or elsewhere? I have late-stage Lyme, co-infections, pyroluria, etc..

Thanks,

Jo
Posted 4/6/2014 11:48 PM (GMT 0)
I don't recall that hospital being mentioned since I've been on here, but maybe someone else will chime in.

Welcome to the forum! Take a look at the "New to Lyme?...Start here!" thread at the top of the page while you wait for an answer.

Some on here have gone to the Hansa Center. You can google Dr. Jernigan to get an idea of what they do. It's alternative treatments. He has a home protocol too, as do a couple of herbalists.

Good luck!
Posted 4/7/2014 12:48 AM (GMT 0)
I don't know; Trav. or someone had said to be super careful about anything you do in Mexico.

Margaret
Posted 4/7/2014 3:32 AM (GMT 0)
I looked at the website.

I would be very cautious.

It might be doctors (or not) who intend to extract a lot of money by promising all kinds of things.

In general, I steer clear of clinics, bc I think it's important to work with an individual doctor. Clinics tend to be very expensive, and to promise more than they deliver.

Dr. Jernigan might be an exception, because he has a well-known protocol.

If no one has heard of the clinic in Mexico, you may want to avoid it.

Be careful about glitzy websites (and scams, possibly).

Margaret
Posted 4/27/2014 6:08 AM (GMT 0)
Pastor Lindsey Williams recommends the clinic/hospital.

Thanks for all the replies.

Jo
Posted 4/27/2014 2:57 PM (GMT 0)
I don't know anything about it myself, but I'm a member of a Facebook page called "Iowa Lyme(It's in our state)" and I believe a member on that fb page just recently went to Mexico for lyme treatment. Although I don't know if it's the same place you're mentioning.
It's a private group, but there accept new members all the time and if you are suffering with lyme you could join that fb group and then ask the question about this place on there. I'm pretty sure it was from that fb page; the woman has just recently gone to Mexico and she was very open about her experience there, in fact I think she wrote a pretty long post on the page sharing about it; I believe it was a positive exp., but again, I'm sorry I don't know if it's the same place.
Posted 4/28/2014 8:40 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks Stacestar, only people from Iowa can join the Iowa Lyme group on Facebook.
Posted 4/30/2014 5:53 PM (GMT 0)
Stacestar,

They won't allow me to join the IowaLyme group. I tried my best. They refuse to let me read the message regarding the person who went to Bio Care Hospital, Mexico.
Is it possible for you to get the information for me?

Thanks,

Jo
Posted 4/30/2014 6:34 PM (GMT 0)
Hi JoJo,
Sorry they won't let you join. I do remember now that I had to give them my zip code when I joined it. I guess they're serious about it just being people from Iowa. Sorry. Personally I think that it shouldn't matter where you're from; I mean can't we share things with anybody who needs advice.
Anyway, I'll try to scroll through the page and see if I can find the woman's info. She was very open about sharing so I don't think she'd mind sharing with someone who wasn't from IA.
Hopefully I can find it!
Posted 4/30/2014 7:06 PM (GMT 0)
JoJo- I recently joined "ozone for wellness" on facebook and there's a woman named Birdie Bry who gives credit to a clinic in Nevada (assuming it's Sierra Integrative) to regaining her health. She claims direct IV (DIV) ozone treatments got her well.
Posted 4/30/2014 9:22 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you very much, ToddPaul and Stacestar.
I am really confused about where to go. I can not go to Sponaugle in Florida, because it costs
$40,000.00+. I have a serious issue because medications, vitamins and acupuncture only make my symptoms much worse. Everything essentially works the same the first time I take them.
I think maybe the infections, autoimmune or the toxins could be causing everything to work
in an abnormal way(not herxheimer reaction)-for instance, fish oil, curcumin, anti-inflammatory meds, only increase
my inflammation, fly symptoms, etc. I need a clinic or doctor who deals with very complicated,
strange cases.
Posted 4/30/2014 10:28 PM (GMT 0)
JoJo5 many people at Sponaugle have done fundraisers. I wonder if that would be an option for you.
Posted 5/1/2014 12:14 AM (GMT 0)
If you look up Lyme Warrior on FB he went to Mexico for stem cell treatment. He may be able to give you a better idea.
Posted 5/1/2014 3:48 AM (GMT 0)
hi again JoJo5,

I sent a pm to the person who's been to the Mexico clinic. I reread her post and it is in Tijuana (where she went) so perhaps it's the same clinic; she didn't mention the name of the clinic in the post I read.
She had a positive experience there from what I read, but again I don't know for sure if it's the same place, b/c she didn't mention the name of it in the post.
I asked her if I could give her your email so that then you two could get in contact. When I hear back from her I let you know.

Oh, and I see the Lymebabe mentioned someone who went for stem cell treatment in Mexico, and that's what this lady went for too (among a few other things it sounded like). I bet that's the same place. So, perhaps the "Lyme Warrior" would be a good place to get info from too.
Posted 5/1/2014 5:12 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks Stacestar and Lymebabe.
I really don't have time to do a fundraiser. I am too sick to wait. Also, I live in South America
and only go back to the U.S. once a year.'
I think I should have had IV antibiotics a long time ago.
Posted 5/1/2014 11:34 AM (GMT 0)
JoJo5 I hope you can get help soon!
Posted 5/1/2014 11:50 AM (GMT 0)
Hi JoJo,

Are you capable of reading?  I suggest reading Dr. Jernigan's book called "Beating Lyme Disease" (not available on Amazon but at www.hansacenter.com and click on store).   Another good book is by Stephen Buhner called "Healing Lyme" which is available on Amazon.

I didn't go to any clinic and became well using Dr. Jernigan's protocol from his book.  From my experience the most important thing is to get your detox pathways working so you can get rid of the toxins from your body first. 

Try listening to the interview that I just posted about:

http://hansacenter.com/listen-to-dr-jernigans-interview-on-chronic-lyme-disease-on-lyme-light-radio/

Best to you!

Denise

Posted 5/1/2014 3:44 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Lymebabe and Deejavu.

I will read those books, thank you. I wonder if Dr. Jernigan's protocol would work for me. Everything I try works crazy, just worsening my symptoms. I wish I could find out the reason
for herbs, meds, vitamins, etc., working so abnormally. Doctors I've seen do not understand
it either.

Dr. Klinghardt said that most Lyme patients have pyroluria. I think I may have this issue, because
I have elevated aluminum, copper, probably mercury and some of the symptoms. I also have many amalgam fillings, and three root canals. I haven't removed them because of the expense. I don't think someone can detox without removing the fillings.
Posted 5/1/2014 4:30 PM (GMT 0)
Have you tried colonics? What you are describing may be caused by a very high level of toxins in your system. If that is true then your most important treatment would be detox. I have done colonics 2x week for 3 months now and it literally put me back on my feet.
Posted 5/1/2014 7:01 PM (GMT 0)
I have had Lyme/co-infections for probably decades. I probably am toxic.
Could toxicity cause vitamins and medications to work abnormally?
Thanks, Lymebabe.
Posted 6/26/2014 3:24 PM (GMT 0)
Hi. Ive had lyme for 12 years. Conventional medicine kept me sick and thinking it was all in my head up until 2 months ago when my personal research led me to the conclusion that i may have lyme and a llmd, dr john hoffman of waupaca wi confirmed that i indeed did. Do not waste your time with conventional medicine-anything approved by the infectious disease society of america or the center for disease control is nearly useless or will only treat surface symptoms while the real cause/s make you worse and worse off. I am currently on long term antibiotics which have helped tremendously, but i want to get better faster. I am researching ibc clinic currently and am so far impressed. I was brave enough once before to go to tijuana for a surgery and was pleased with the care and the results. I am more afraid of medical practices in the US then I am of Mexico. Dont get me wrong, I absolutely love my country, but we have some major issues in our health care system. Doctors are afraid to go against the grain for fear or reprisals and worse yet they are taught to think inside a box created by the cdc, idsa, and ama while in medical school. Sadly, it has been my experience that doctors here will pigeon hole peoples symptoms into the most common disease categories. If you are difficult to treat or are not easily pigeon holed it is either your fault or it's all in your head. Illness is a big industry. Don't fall into our systems sad trap. Call if anyone wants to talk. I am here to support...I know what you are going through and I wont ask for a dime-because i know what it is to suffer. 920 two four two 8190. By the way. I was also able to make the connection that morgellons is actually a bartonella rash combined with other coinfections. If you are pulling fibers out of your skin please call a lyme literate doctor.
Posted 6/27/2014 4:07 AM (GMT 0)
Jojo5 sorry I just saw your post from May 5. Yes, if you are very toxic you could be reacting abnormally.
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