Detox detox detox

Thanks LoveTheLight -

Did you begin detoxing from the start, or did you learn the hard way ( like me ) when you became super-sensitive to any from treatment ?

Also - how about binding agents like citrus pectin, cholestyramine, zeolite, etc ?

great reminder. Since becoming ill I absolutely do not exercise enough, and probably exercising and moving things through is a very important aspect of healing.

Anyone suspecting high toxicity.
Get serious in detox

I thought I was always doing enough
I then did a few months of full time detox every waking hour.

I mean 4 baths a day with dry scrubbing and various recipes
Rebounding before each one
I also did 4 coffee enrmas a day with various recepies and even wired up to a series of -3 to 5 - in a row
Diet I did elimination til I got down to just micronutrients 80 percent and protein and fats 20 percent all organic clean foods and nothing packaged processed or premade
I was doing internal detox too and measures water of a gallon a day and added baking soda and salts at least to half of it
At home every hour was a detox modality.

Sounds extreme and I did work up to this but once I got serious and times things I was able and once I got myself unplugged my life and body changed .

I pulled out old anti biotics I couldn't take at all without immediate horrible reactions and I now could take them easily.

I started in a next phase of adding killing agents and not only keeping up detox but adding more serious modalities.
Cost me to get to use things like ozone sauna and cold laser lymphatic drainages. But I wanted a bigger push.

Lymph work has been my biggest helper and mine were slow and even stuck.

Toxins can't go out if your lymphs are thick and stagnant.
Lymphs can only move along with movement but you can stimulate then with like cold laser or massage or things directly like vibrational tools.

Lymphs and liver are two major things we have to keep moving.
All the while working on gut and what we take in and put on us
Adding exercise even if in bed - I started there

It's been getting my body unstuck that has helped me move forward and even resolve the majority of symptoms.

If you think your doing enough
Push the line because its a fine line where you break through.

This is one of the most depressing things I have read so far in this forum. It's a lot. 4 baths a day along with everything else including the treatment is impossible for someone still functioning with a full time job.

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honestly, the more I research the more I realize that detox is probably the key to recovery for most people. Ive read more stuff about how people have come back from near death with detoxification. Ive been taking baths and doing the sauna and dry skin brushing. Not sure if its helping but im embarking on a new journey.

im making an all out effort to flush out my liver! I'm going to start working with an herbalist and i'm seeking out other detox help as well.

Im not into a juice diet or anything, i've lost too much weight. But I think the reason why gerson and juicing works is because of the massive detox it does. If you think about it, its like multiple enemas and internal cleansing with food. Probably takes a long time to flush out all the stagnation that's built up inside. But once you get that stuff moving out, it probably can better pull out the lyme toxins and stuff. Just my thoughts..

If you research it there are foods that are highly rich in natural glutathione, like carrots and spinach and walnuts and avocado and others that can probably help your body tremendously.

So I would take detoxing seriously.

Consider yourself lucky if you are still working!!! That is better than most of us.

okay maybe I need a better attitude about this darn thing. I just got out the dusty old exercise bike and did 15 minutes on it. I have not had any joint pains to contend with just fatgue and lethargy. But it felt good.

I guess I will stay on my random protocol, try to adapt a more hopeful attitude, and massively increase exercise and any other detox I can. And hope for the best. My parents think I am faking it or at least exaggerating with the mental issues which is sad for me. But I haven't had a panic attack in a few days. Guess I have to focus on what is good, not the bad. ugh. I need to make more of a physical and mental effort. My doc wants me to go off gluten which I really don't want to do- I have never had a prob with gluten. I am massively cut back on sugar since starting treatment- I used to consume tons and now have minimal. byt gluten does not make sense ot me.

This is an excellent thread, and I just couldn't pass it by!

I became convicted as to the importance of detoxing in the fall of 2008, and have had almost 6 years to mull over the issue and to sharpen my understanding. I agree with 95% of the statements made by LoveTheLight. However, I would like to add a few thoughts of my own for clarification. I also disagree about one particular statement that was made by several people.

Unfortunately my daughter Heather was put on high adult doses of several ABX without detoxing. I had not yet gotten up to speed about a lot of issues and so the doctor's ignorance caused Heather to suffer terribly. I literally stopped working for 1.5 years and went into full time research mode during that time. Within a few months of ABX treatment I became convicted as to the centrality of detoxing to regain health. I gradually added a lot of detoxing methods, and she gradually felt better to the point that she had only a few relatively mild symptoms. We discovered that detoxing was a very large issue for her to get better. However after ABX and herbal treatments were discontinued, she relapsed within a few months even though we were still aggressively detoxing. The point I'd like to make is that detoxing may be only one of the issues that impact the integrity of the immune system. It will vary from person to person. My daughter's immune system did not spontaneously rebound even with pristine diet and and an intelligently and aggressively applied detox regimen. Detoxification MAY be only one of several "keys" to regain health.

I was with my daughter 24/7 for 1.5 years. Her detoxing regimen was very expensive and labor intensive. It paid off handsomely, but it still wasn't THE KEY ISSUE for Heather. It was one of SEVERAL KEY ISSUES for Heather. Her suppressed immune system required the intelligently applied intervention that only a properly trained physician could provide. I have seen quite a few people that have not quite been able to fully recover despite a well applied detoxing strategy. When I say this I am not minimizing the necessity for detoxing, but it may not even be the major issue for some people.

After seeing some of LoveTheLight's detoxing methods it brings back memories of the methods that we used as well for our daughter. Our approach was very similar. Almost everyone on this forum thought that I was crazy when i provided a detailed list of all the methods that I used. I had an advantage because I was with my daughter 24/7 while others cannot do that.

I could create a list of approximately 40-50 different methods that I had used over about a 2 year period. The average forum member would take a look at it and suffer bewilderment because they don't have the time or the financial resources to use the same extensive list of methods. OK then, lets streamline the process. I can envision at least 2 possible approaches. We can take a cue from the Hansa Center where my daughter was cured. They use the Jernigan Antitox herbal products to be taken internally. They also use various cold lasers, therapeutic massage, FIR sauna, Ionic Foot Detox, Mustard Bath, LUX, ST8, and other treatments to promote detoxification. They also sometimes recommend detox baths with epsom salt and hydrogen peroxide as well as enemas, colonics, and coffee enemas to be done by the patients themselves.

When I consider what the Hansa Center employs for detoxification and what I accidentally fell upon when I developed my own detox regimen for my daughter- a pattern emerges. IT IS MOST BENEFICIAL TO ENGAGE AS MANY OF THE BODY'S CHANNELS OF DETOXIFICATION AS POSSIBLE. ALSO, IT IS MOST BENEFICIAL TO EMPLOY AS MANY MODES OF PHYSICS AS POSSIBLE, i.e PHYSICAL/KENETIC, ENERGETIC, OSMOTIC, BIOCHEMICAL, THERMAL, INTERNAL, EXTERNAL, ETC.

LoveTheLight's various approaches really coincides with my approach and that of the Hansa Center. I sometimes have seen the posts of people that don't really believe in detoxing in general. Also some people think that liver and kidney support is enough. That is a huge mistake! You don't want to drag 100% of the toxins through your poor liver and kidney/bladder. There is no virtue in that- only misery.

I would definitely support the liver and kidneys. Employ liver flushes and coffee enemas to clean out the liver. I would also spread out the workload. The skin is potentially the largest channel of detoxification by far. Use it with various methods such as regular sauna/ FIR sauna, Ionic Foot/Mustard Detox, Epsom Salt/H2O2 baths, Skin Brushing etc. You will also want to clean your colon and kidneys with psyllium seed and bentanite. Yes eat lots of green foods high in chlorophyll such as chlorella and spirulina.

Heat is a great catalyst for anything that you do to treat the illness. If you don't address that issue, detoxification will be hindered. That is why exercise is so helpful. Dress warm and get out into the fresh air on warm days. Frequent warm baths are very helpful.

You want to maximize the effectiveness of detoxification. Below are various categories according to which you may want to think about detoxing.

Internal (food and herbal supplements by ingestion through mouth)

External (various physical and energetic treatments)

Heat (Exercise, warm clothes, biomat, Sauna/FIR Sauna, warm bath)

Liver (milk thistle/silymarin, liver flush, coffee enema)

Kidneys (bentanite clay)

Lymph Glands and Pathways (therapeutic massage, foot reflexology, ionic foot detox, cold laser, heat, herbs, lymph plate machine)

Colon (psyllium,bentanite, chlorophyll, enema, colonic, diet)

Skin (sauna, ionic foot detox, baths of various types)

BioChemical (herbal supplements, cleansing food)

BioEnergetic of various types (cold laser, ionic foot detox, Biomat, FIR sauna)

Physical (exercise, foot reflexology, therapeutic massage)

Osmotic (epsom salts/H2O2 bath, mustard bath)

Kinetic (rebounder, trampoline, lymph plate machine)

Lots of high quality water

Body PH (7.0-7.2, slightly alkaline body assists detoxification, eat proper diet, water w/ freshly squeezed lemon)

Proteolytic enzymes (helps thin blood of debris and unhealthy deposits)

Emotional Detox (Mind/Body Connection)

EMF remediation

Heavy Metal Detox

There is a lot more that could be said. I am just throwing out some ideas that may assist you in organizing your thinking.

Don

Deejavu,

I apologize for leaving out the important detail that you were one of the people that influenced my thinking early on in my journey of discovery! You are the matriarch of detoxing on this forum!

Don

Yes I had also added to my home remedies things that cost money too but it found out I could make as much progress at just home if I worked hard enough. I admit I had zero life when I did this. But I also was ready to end it all too. So ...

I wish I was well enough to work and if so I doubt I would have needed as intense of a program maybe anyway.
If you work you would have to commit all off work hours but remember its only for awhile at such intensity. I would say give it three months to six months or until you feel its good enough. Believe me you will know. You will herx at first but then less and less and then you will feel the flow like a unclogged drain
Best and most amazing feeling.
You will have to do maintaining and lifestyle changes.

But it's all worth it ! D quotes 70 percent and I quote 80 percent
Those are huge numbers.

If your stuck and feeling hopeless and helpless you have to consider you may just be toxic and stuck and backed up and you have to do something. Even doctors who treat this way will ask you to do most all the home based items you can.

Don't give up.
But don't rule out how important this is.

I bought an infrared portable home sauna for $150. Well worth the $$ when you consider how much everything else has cost - I try to spend 30-45 minutes a day in it, sweating for detox. I haven't yet had the guts to try doing it at the same time as my Rocephin IV drip (but that sure would cut into the time it takes daily to treat my Lyme).


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Tick bite in Spain followed by rash - June 2013
Symptoms begin - July 2013
Finally diagnosed after 20 doctors - October 2013
Doxy - October - December 2013
IV silver nearly killed me - December 2013
Rocephin, 12 days - January 2014
Ceftin and Azith - Feb-March 2014
Sliding backwards - March, April 2014
PICC line with IV Rocephin, April - present (improving, somewhat)

I just ordered the http://www.thelifetree.com/purify.htm detox forumlas, from a suggestion that lymebabe gave me in an email. Thanks, lymebabe. I am really excited about this. It looks like a really helpful detox program to add in, something I have been needing.

anyone else on here used these?

I am wondering if I have to tell my doctor I am adding this in or not? And wondering if it is okay to use right now during the antibiotics, or if it would reduce the effectiveness at all? It seems like it will be very helpful and can be used right now to assist with detox but I just want to make sure.

I know people who were on IV antibiotics who used it and were fine. I wish I had this at the very beginning. I would not be full of bugs that were taking away my nutrition, supplements, and medication! Also, my Protomyxzoa would have been addressed then but who knew? I am glad I learned about it and it has really helped me.