insomnia, but not every night, every OTHER night...

anyone .... any ideas???

i appreciate you taking the time to just say anything :(

It's possible - although I don't know how likely - that you are so worn down that your body can only stay up for 1 night before you 'crash' and can sleep.

I've had all kinds of weird sleep issues relating to insomnia. I take a lot of supplements for sleep and ambien in order to just sleep an average of 6 hours each night. Lyme and company can do the weirdest things to a person's sleep!!!

What about taking a detox full bath just before you start your night time routine? Many say it helps them relax, and the magnesium that you would be absorbing would go to helping the muscles relax as well.

Also, are you taking a magnesium supplement? Magnesium usually helps a lot with muscle twitching. Also avoid lemon juice and things in a vinegar base - this can increase muscle twitching in some people. I know that I had to stay away from those things for a while when my muscle twitching got really bad.

Yes, Lyme is known to mess with our hormones. I'm glad you are getting yours checked & hopefully you are getting them balanced back out. If your sleep issues are due to this, it should resolve once they are balanced again.

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This is a site that I have used extensively to help me understand a lot about adrenal & thyroid functions, test results and have even found a doctor to treat my thyroid and adrenals issues through them!
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travler....
i do take detox baths of clay and epsom salts but i have noticed no correlation of taking the bath and me sleeping. I would take one every night if that was my golden ticket.
I do take mag, i've taken very high doses int eh past, right now i'm taking nutrimedix and i take around 500 mgs of malate.
surprisingly enough my worst symptom of twitching has gotten so much better.
I'm familiar with STTM and i've referred to their site as well.
I understand lyme messes with hormones but i feel treating lyme has made them worse....

You may be like me and have a difficult case of insomnia. I hope not though. I have to take 1,000 mgs of magnesium oxide in the morning and 1,000 mgs of it at night along with 500 mgs of magnesium arginate at night in order to keep my innerds working & muscle cramps/spasms down. Before, when I was still in treatment, I had to take larger doses to keep things operating well.

Maybe your not taking enough yet for your body? Just a thought. If you choose to raise up your dosage to see if it will help, make sure to raise it very slowly though - it can give you diarrhea.

I've often wondered about the hormone connection too. I know that Lyme messes with women's menstrual cycles - mine were almost non-existent and it varies widely. This year I was told that I not only wasn't in menopause, I was way past it. I had no estrogen at all. Not that this is bad thing necessarily (I'm 51), but it was surprising to find out that I had no estrogen at all! I've wondered many times if it had anything to do with having had Lyme disease.

I sure wish they would get more research going on these things!!!

Just curious? How many cups of Epsom Salts are you adding to the baths? I would stop the clay and just use at least 4 to 6 cups of the Epsom Salts and 1 bottle of food grade 3% hydrogen peroxide.

Epsom Salts are magnesium and the best way to get them to work inside your body is through the pores of your skin (the reason why it's good to dry skin brush before getting into the bath). Detox baths have a cumulative effect... one to 3 baths a week will help but a detox bath every night is even better!!

I don't know much about hormones as I never researched them (I had to take an estrogen supplement and some other supplements when I was going through severe menopause right after peri-menopause) which helped me.

Hope this helps,
Denise

Louise 74
adrenals are notorious for waking us around 4am. Have you tested your cortisol levels??
It may be an easy fix for you!
Deejavu--- why cut out the clay, just wondering??? not sur show many cups i just pour it in the tub, probably 2 cups or more?!?!

LOL, men-o-pause, HA!!
YEAH, mag malate shouldn't cause bathroom issues :)
I can take a lot of it...
Had two nights in a row that were good.... i could get use to this ;)

I've always has sleeping issues with my Lyme. Even years ago I remember sitting up with my Dad watching movies on VHS tapes (remember those???) There were a few we wore out!

A detox bath helps. I use 4 cups of Epson salt and 32 oz. of hydrogen peroxide and soak for at least 20 minutes (usually longer since I like to read in the tub).

I am so glad someone else brought up bathroom issues! Once I got back on treatment, it was one of the surprises that no one told me about. I told my hubby that I feel I'm 90 when the most exciting parts of my day are if I sleep through the night and if I have a normal bathroom day!! It is getting better but , man, have I gotten an education!

Every other day is the key here.

I've been experiencing the same for 2 years now and can't shake it off. It's also characterised by being tired / fatigued every other day with body aches and slight tension headache. On those bad days, I sleep well at night (because I'm exhausted) and the next day I'm 100%, it's a good day but then at night I'm not tired/sleepy and this cycles in a perfect one ON and one OFF fashion. I tried everything: intermittent fasting, 7 day water only fast. I'm currently on plant based diet for a month and no change unfortunately.

i would like to share my experience it is similar with Louise, falling asleep very nice but have been having periods when waking up every night around 1 pm or so, often sweating. I have put in system to then sit up in bed and start doing meditation. i keep it going for maybe an hour or so, then lie down and keep meditating while lying down until I fall asleep.