What are your Bartonella symptoms?

I just wanted to know what everyone's bartonella symptoms are like?

I was hoping to compare... Symptoms, maybe these aren't even Bart symptoms.

I think my bartonella came back. I have foot pain and shin pain. Also lower abdominal pain in my groin area(well testicular pain and prostate pain). But I have no insomnia or anxiety and I realize those are the usual prime Bart symptoms.

These infections are just not easy to handle... I guess Buhners bartonella protocol next?

Unlucky thanks for getting back to me!

I hope others will share their bartonella experiences too.

See I don't get it! My anxiety, insomnia , and CNS symptoms are cleared up! That is why I am trying to get what other peoples symptoms are. But I still get this symptoms in my legs and feet.

I got shin pain that comes and goes, and foot pain that comes and goes. My only Bart symptoms? I am taking this Houttuynia maybe that's why it comes and goes ?!

Hi Rowingmom. Thanks for your response.

Well that is encouraging to know that eventually the symptoms were completely resolved.

So Buhners protocol including:
Japanese Knotweed Tincture, EGCG with quercetin, L-Arginine, cordyceps tincture, sida acuta, red root, milk thistle seed, hawthorn, rhodiola/ashwagandha, isatis/houttuynia/alchornea, pomegranate, and vitamin E.

All for 1 year? LoL wow I got a long haul ahead of me.

So symptoms were completely resolved though? Nothing left at all, and no more treatments?

I have foot pain, and shin pain mainly. I no longer have the anxiety, ice pick headaches, dizziness, chills/sweats, fatigue, hot flashes. Although i did have those at one point.

Yes I was freezing! I would check my body temp and it would be like 36 degrees c!

In addition to the bart protocol we are also using CSA and have recently added bidens (herx alert!) for assumed babesia.

We are forced to use low (1/4) dosages (except for Japanese knotweed) because of herxing issues. If you can handle higher dosages, perhaps you can treat for less time.

Our daughter herxed with air hunger, chest pressure, dry cough and sighing when I did a trial of CSA, so our LLMD now assumes babesia as well as bart and lyme. CSA has brought huge improvements in our daughter's cognitive and executive function. The bartonella herbs resolved everything else.

We are not using l-arginine because I can't rule out viral involvement.

Can the only bart symptom be really bad foot pain and itchiness with some headache and tmj, and food allergies and sensitivities?
ive been treating lyme and babesia for a while pretty heavily but seems like the foot pain does not resolve. When I added houttyunia I may have seen some improvement but I stopped to treat yeast for a while. I have severe yeast issues that stemmed before antibiotics and im getting mercuy filling out soon and will be doing a mercury detox with a biological dentist. I had several fillings taken out unsafely about 6 years ago. Anyone have any thoughts on all of this?

I'm having some new symptoms pop up and I don't know if its babasia or bart?

New symtpoms:

Head pain directly on top of my head
Tingling in my back, spine and face
Air hunger
Wake up to heart palpitations
Sore and tender throat, especially at the base
Lymph nodes feel tender, especially my right arm pit


All of these are scaring me. Debating whether I should call my doctor to at least check it out.

when you say tingling do you ever feel like things are dripping or crawling in your head? I have lyme and babs but just dont know about bart. I certainly have symptoms but they all overlap. I am gonna start back up the houttyunia as I had stopped cause candida is so bad

My pain is on the bottom of my feet but not arches more on the perimeter of my upper soles.

yes, bart can cause foot pain.

These are my suspected bart symptoms - some may be lyme instead:

foot pain (bottoms, worse in a.m.)
rib pain
buzzing/vibrations (all day - like finger stuck in lite socket)
back pain (don't know if this is bart)
shoulder pain
lymph nodes swollen, sore - clavicle (left), back of head (right)

@ moon61 - Buhner's complete bartonella protocol is listed on his website, listed under coinfections protocols:

http://buhnerhealinglyme.com/

BARTONELLA
Research is ongoing, this is the most up to date protocol:
• Sida acuta tincture (from Woodland Essence or [email protected]) ¼ tsp 3x day for 30 days
• Hawthorn tincture, same
• Japanese knotweed, (tincture, same dose (from same sources as Sida acuta, above), or capsules from Green Dragon Botanicals 2 capsules 3x daily)
• EGCG 400mg +- daily
• Houttuynia (Yu Xing Cao – 1st Chinese Herbs, powder – use “LYME” code at checkout for 10% off) 1 tbl daily
• L-arginine 5000 mg daily in divided doses
• Milk Thistle seed, standardized, 1200 mg daily
All for 30 days.
PLEASE NOTE: If you have active herpes, chicken pox, or shingles DO NOT USE L-arginine.

We are not using l-arginine, because I can't guarantee viruses are not a problem for us.

We were asymptomatic after treating at low (1/4 dosages) for a year, and are now focussing on the babesia protocol, while leaving the bartonella intact.

If you are planning on treating with Buhner's protocols you really should educate yourself on the infections you are treating, why Buhner recommends the herbs he does, how and why the herbs work, and how to prepare and dose the herbs.

His books:

Herbal Antivirals: Natural Remedies for Emerging & Resistant Viral Infections
Healing Lyme Disease Coinfections: Complementary and Holistic Treatments for Bartonella and Mycoplasma
Herbal Antibiotics, 2nd Edition: Natural Alternatives for Treating Drug-resistant Bacteria

cover information on all of the herbs he recommends for mycoplasma, bartonella and babesia. His new coinfections book on ehrlichia, anaplasma and babesia should be out next spring.


You need to be committed to your own healing, and that involves understanding as well - Not just taking someone's word from a forum comment.

The herbs are powerful and probiotics need to be taken while you are using them (space probiotic dosages at least 2 hours between antimicrobial doses). Detoxing is a must as well if you don't want to herx too badly.