Lyme Disease and Discal Hernias?

I'm reading this article and it says that one of the most common symptoms is having Discal hernias.

www.spirochaetes.us/lyme-disease.html

Is this true, as in scientifically proven? How could Lyme cause Discal hernias?

I'm asking because I'm in my 30s and I have a lot of degeneration in my spine (including several Discal hernias), I'm told my spine looks 50-60 years old.

Few months after my health problems started, my mom also got sick and lower back pain is one of her symptoms.

Anyone else with spine issues here?

Post Edited (interpro) : 12/8/2014 9:39:16 PM (GMT-7)

Untreated lyme can even cause scoliosis, in people that did not have it prior to lyme. . You can goggle it.

Some people get muscle / nerve/ spinal "mini seizures" for lack of a better term. They might feel the body spasm / tighten up in a sideways manner beyond their control while in a rested state. This would wake me up 20 years ago.

Disc hernias are nothing more than the jelly squishing out from uneven / one sided force from accute accidents to bad repeated muscle spasms over years. Thats all it takes.

Degeneration is pretty common in all adults. Depends on the degree. Some chiropractors (the slimy ones) use this as a scare tool to get clients to sign yearly program contracts with up front payments. Its part of what makes people get shorter as life goes on and does not necessarily mean pain.

Many limies have back pain. But from what I've read , pain usually starts in the upper neck, goes to shoulders, and on.

This alone may not be lyme if you dont have any of the other many symptoms. I see your fairly new here with 9 posts, I dont know your other symptoms.

The spasms as I mentioned. Since they are uneven, they bend the spine. Bad ones are not "normal " spasms that normal people get, they are "events". You feel it coming, you feel it leave. Over time the spine can get twisted. 10th grade physics. This is similar to MS.

There is a reason high MS rates are in the same areas as high Lyme rates on maps. Some MS is realy Lyme. A high percentage of diseased MS patients (that gave there bodies to science) are found to have spirochete bacteria in them.

Lyme gets in your nervous system and kind of shorts it out, causing the spasms in some people.

Scoliosis is determined by the degree of unparallelle-ism (yes, i made that word) between vertebrata. A ruler,and protractor on a x-ray film of the spine.

Lmye effects us all different. Lyme speeds up , then slows down. Unpredictable.

I got MS like symptoms about 3 years after what felt like the initial symptom on set, hot/cold / flu like/ neck stiff, insomnia, dizzy falling over ect..

Some months my whole body got rock hard, (without viagra)

Legs were like wood posts.

The lyme flick "under your skin" shows this happening to the girl in the movie. She had an obviously bad case, like seizures. Nothing "mini" about what happened to her.

Interpro! I'm not at all sure anymore what "scientific" even means given the broad application of that word. LOL. For instance, "scientifically" the IDSA and CDC would not, using their definitions and diagnostics and scientific criteria, even diagnose me as having lyme disease. My Igenex test was positive, but I never had a rash and was negative on the ELISA test for lyme. For someone that has studied lyme, though, I am a slam dunk given the Igenex result and my littany of symptoms.

Science is just the study of something. My LLMD has been sued by the medical board for mis-applying his medical degree, his science if you will. Some would say he betrays science by the way that he treats me without the rash and elisa positive test. But, I would argue that he has applied himself to learning about lyme and conducted systematic study through experiment and observation of patients in a way that is a textbook definition of "science". So to me, he is highly scientific. Does he have data and evidence for everything that he does? Probably not. Do I trust his science more than the other 9 or 10 specialists who told me that I didn't have lyme? Well, yep.

All that to say that my LLMD believes that our heightened state of inflammation predisposes us to things like discal herniations. However, he also thinks that our diets, genetics, and environment (previous athletics, car accidents, etc) increase our likelihood for hernias of the discs in our spine as well. I think the author of the article to which you referred is on to something with the herniations being related to lyme. And, very unscientifically, I would argue that lyme has been the predisposing factor to not only my cervical spine hernias, but also the abdominal, inguinal, and hiatal hernias that I had. I can't give you data to prove my position, but from what I have studied and observed I am absolutely convinced that lyme caused (or created the inflammatory disposition) all of those. I also, however, have pretty significant genetic links and a very aggressive athletic history (ice hockey, mountain biking accident where I broke my shoulder) that probably factor in as well.