What herbals are used to treat Bartonella?

From:

http://www.buhnerhealinglyme.com/

BARTONELLA
Research is ongoing, this is the most up to date protocol:
• Sida acuta tincture (from Woodland Essence or [email protected]) ¼ tsp 3x day for 30 days

• Hawthorn tincture, same

• Japanese knotweed, (tincture, same dose (from same sources as Sida acuta, above), or capsules from Green Dragon Botanicals 2 capsules 3x daily)

• EGCG 400mg +- daily

• Houttuynia (Yu Xing Cao – 1st Chinese Herbs, powder – use “LYME” code at checkout for 10% off) 1 tbl daily

• L-arginine 5000 mg daily in divided doses

• Milk Thistle seed, standardized, 1200 mg daily
All for 30 days.

PLEASE NOTE: If you have active herpes, chicken pox, or shingles DO NOT USE L-arginine.

Our daughter was unable to completely heal from her chronic bartonella infection until we added CSA - a combination tincture of cryptolepis, sida acuta, alchornea - which addressed an underlying, asymptomatic, negative testing (Igenex test for B microti and B duncani) babesia infection.

With low doses of this complete bartonella protocol (except l-arginine because I can't rule out viral infection)+ CSA both my daughter and myself are now completely asymptomatic. Because we are using lower than recommended dosages of herbs, we are treating long term (into our 2nd year now).

From Stephen Buhner's book "Healing Lyme Coinfections":

To reduce NF-xB:
Chinese senega root
Chinese Skullcap
Cordyceps
EGCG
Greater Celadine
Houttuynia
Knotweed
Kudzu
Luteolin
Olive Oil
Pomegranate
Schisandra

Inhibit IL-8:
Codyceps
EGCG
Isatis
Knotweed
NAC
Pomegranate

Inhibit EGF:
Berberine
EGCG
Ginko
Quercetin

Inhibit E-Selectin:
Ginko
Knotweed
Kudzu
Milk Thistle
Schisandra

Inhibit PTP:
Elder
Hawthorn

Inhibit ERK:
Chinese Skullcap
Codyceps
EGCG
Greater Celadine
Knotweed
Kudzu
Olive Oil

Inhibit VEGF:
Aralia
Berberine
Calotropis
Chine Skullcap
Codyceps
Cranberry
EGCG
Knotweed
Licorice
Pomegranate
Salvia

CORE PROTOCOL:

CYTOKINE CASCADE INTERVENTION:
Polygonum Cuspidatum (Japanese Knotweed)
Epigalocatechin-3-gallate (EGCG) with Quercetin, and cordiceps, Chinese Skullcap, NAC, and vitamin E are also of benefit. Chinese Skullcap should definitely be added if you are experiencing CNS problems.

ORGAN PROTECTION:
Sida Acuta for the red blood cells
Hawthorn (Crataegus) for the heart
Milk Thistle (Silybum Marianum) for the liver
Red Root (ceanothus) for the lymph system and spleen
EGCG (with quercetin), L-arginine, and Japanese Knotweed for Endothelial cell protection. NAC , Bidens, Alchornea, and cryptolepis are also protective of red blood cells. The three latter herbs are also potently antibacterial, broadly systemic, and specific for killing organisms that infect red blood cells as well as protecting red blood cells from infection.

IMMUNE SUPPORT:
Rhodiola (Rhodiola) and Ashwagandha(Withania). Besides their immune-modulating, adaptogenic, and cytokine-reducing effects, both these herbs specifically increase CD4+ cell counts.

ANTIBACTERIAL REGIMEN:
Alchornea Codifolia, isatis, and houttuynia. These herbs will help with inflammation and have a broad range of antibacterial actions. Sida Acuta is also a broad-spectrum and strongly systemic antibacterial and is broadly active against the Proteobacteria Phylum.

Please note: L-Arginine is important to consider using during Bartonella infection. It has been found to reverse many of the effects of a Bartonella infection because it is specifically protective of endothelial cells and function. A number of studies have found that it, by itself, can so interfere with Bartonella colonization of endothelial cells that the disease progress is severely hampered.

We used a product called blt that your llnd makes. Also really like all the beyond balance products.

Honestly, I'm not sure of why L-arginine is being used for Bartonella infections specifically. That would have to be known to find a suitable replacement. All I know for sure- other than the articles I found, is that when I tried to use L-arginine, my EBV flared. I thought it was odd, so I started looking and found ample evidence to support my thought that it was due to the L-arginine- but not all will respond that way.

According to this article: www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/875.html, "L-arginine is converted in the body into a chemical called nitric oxide. Nitric oxide causes blood vessels to open wider for improved blood flow. L-arginine also stimulates the release of growth hormone, insulin, and other substances in the body."

We know that there are other things such as lumbrokinase (brand name:Boluoke) can thin the blood for improved blood flow without the risk of reactivating EBV.

But there are quite a few warnings about L-arginine and Herpes viruses (which EBV is one of them), including this study where Arginine was used and it was found that "interaction with arginine yielded the virus-enhancing effect." jvi.asm.org/content/2/3/182.full.pdf
"Effect of Arginine-deficient Media on the Herpes-Type Virus
Associated with Cultured Burkitt Tumor Cells."

With more supporting evidence from this and other sites:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/6260556_Down-regulation_of_spontaneous_Epstein-Barr_virus_reactivation_in_the_P3HR-1_cell_line_by_L-arginine (don't mind the window that pops up saying you have to join - you can read the abstract without joining)

So my statement is a warning only - if you notice that you have increase EBV symptoms (mainly more exhaustion) and you have recently started using L-arginine, then you should stop it and see if that relieves those symptoms. For those that have a lot of trouble with their EBV being active, it might be better to find another supplement to do the job.

Somewhere around 97.5% of the US population (adults and children) have EBV, so it's wise to be cautious!!

And I'm glad I could be of some help!