Chronic Tonic as used by Trav

Trav- if you are already herxing is it best not to take this tea? Is this an after abx sort of treatment? I've been drinking a milk thistle dandelion tea but I'm afraid I'm not taking it far enough? Also how do you know when to stop detox, or do you? I just don't want to make things worse than they already are. I can't really think very clearly the last few days, so reading the above posts were quite taxing. But I don't think you mentioned those things... but it is possible that you did. lol

Currently I am on doxycycline 100 2Xdaily (I've been taking it for only a month and a handful of days now)
I take pregnenolone (because of weird hormonal issues)
cruciferous complete( for breakdown of hormones and toxins)
probiotics vitamin d3 (though I still don't know one way or the other if this is a good idea?)
methylcolbalamine b vitamin complex
hydrocortisone 2x daily.

I've been doing detox baths per instructions in introduction page for the last few days, drink lemon juice water daily and the dandelion milk thistle tea occasionally because it also has Echinacea (which I've read you aren't supposed to take if you have an autoimmune disorder like hashimotos but since I've started the abx my thyroid went back to normal size so I don't know if it would matter or not at this point)
I also do daily dry brushing ever morning and when I feel okayish I practice yoga.

Mostly my symptoms are heart related, or blood pressure related. Dizzy, lightheaded can't take a full breath, moments of feeling like an alien is going to pop out of my chest.
but sometimes I get strange vibrations, pains or what feels like popping all over my body especially when I try to sleep. I have come to dread bed time and stay up way too late sometimes reading or writing (which I know is counter productive for adrenal fatigue) When I do try to sleep I get terrible anxiety, when I close my eyes I see terrible things (think weird and disturbing) and sometimes hear my name being called. If I fall asleep I will shoot out of bed at the slightest noise or movement and scream (my poor husband lol). The worst though is the heart issues, it either is pounding in an erratic way or it will feel like it isn't beating at all and I get really lightheaded. Sometimes my whole body will tense and I will start shaking and my teeth with chatter while my heart races with terrible chills, it's very frightening for my son so I try to get to my room and lay on the floor so he doesn't have to witness it.
So basically everything I went through before treatment but worse.

I do not have this tea, I just came across your recipe today. So now I'm wondering if it's not a good idea if it also kills the lyme? Is what I'm going through just the die off and if so would this make it much worse? I just don't know what to do.
Sorry to dump so much info I just didn't know exactly which things to tell you or which are related to lyme and which just might be sleep deprivation lol.

I forgot to answer about the Vitamin D - sorry! I'm in the camp that believes it's better to give the body what it needs to function and heal so that it's not struggling. I believe we need to support any and all functions and deficient areas so the body only has to concentrate on healing, not how to function when it's not getting everything it needs.

Without the vitamin D supplementation, your body will be dealing with even more things (weakening bones) and so will have to "divide it's attention" even more, instead of only concentrating on one thing - healing.

I'm moving this conversation to a new thread www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3349233

Regarding Chronic Tonic. I went to Mystic Meadows site and I see they sell in in a bottled form for $34.00. I think it is a one month's supply. Has anyone tried this instead of mixing all those herbs and brewing your own? My idea was to try it "made up" and then if I see results, go the full route and make my own for more and at less cost I wold think. Wondering if anyone ever used it and if it has good reviews. Just a thought.

Mister Mike. Thank you for sharing Moosiey - check out this thread: https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3377014

I will be checking tomorrow. Just too tired right now and need to go to bed. But I'll look and let you know. Thanks again, moosiey

Moosiey
I buy the Houttuynia herbs and steep 3 ounces in three cups of boiling water for ten minutes. Strain it and take three times a day. It has taken away the feeling of imflamation in my abdomen, the body and back pain. The only symptom that i get from time to time is a very mild burning sensation on my lower left leg. Now you have to start slow with it. It has made some members herx really bad.
Yes they do have a Chronic tonic already made, but it is too expensive. I believe close to $40 for a 16oz bottle.
Thraveler's herbalist gave her the same herbs as in the CT, but instead of making it the way Mystic Meadow makes it, she told Traveler to make it in a different way. She has it down at the beggining of this post, and it is how I make mine. And it is sooo much cheaper. I spent around $150 and these herbs will last around eight months.

Mister Mike
No worries, we are all here to help in whatever we can.
Yes i do four cups a day of the CT and three a day of the Houttuynia. I am doing it just like Traveler has it written down. I was feeling so good that I stopped the CT and the H for a month to keep treating Babs (which I am treating with CSA from Buhner). But I am back as i started to feel little buzzing here and there and some remaining left lower leg burning sensation. But i feel so good that i am doing boot camp once a week.
Now, i have to be more disciplined because there have been days where i did skip one cup, drinking only three of the CT. When you start to feel good you think that it is almost over and then you lose the focus on getting healed.
I do recommend to try the CT, I think that without it my lyme would have had progressed and who knows where i would have been.
It has a good combination of herbs in it. Most of the natural protocols use some of the herbs in the CT for lyme.
I say give it a go and start slow, just in case you herx...

Ps.. The only thing that has not changed is the blurry and double vision when i spend too much time on the computer.

Post Edited (Elmesanoya) : 4/13/2015 10:29:28 PM (GMT-6)

Well, first of all - I spelled it wrong!! LOL! It's Gingko Biloba! And it's a tree, so it's the leaves that are used:

"Although Chinese herbal medicine has used both the ginkgo leaf and seed for thousands of years, modern research has focused on the standardized Ginkgo biloba extract (GBE) made from the dried green leaves."

Source: Ginkgo biloba | University of Maryland Medical Center umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/ginkgo-biloba#ixzz3XILWVcry

And I did have to do a lot to protect my liver from all the toxins that I pushed through it, but that was mainly because I can't use milk thistle. I still understand your concerns though since you are treating your young children.

Everything in it's right time, right?

Mr Mike:
I'm not worried about one more herb, I am worried about 11 herbs for Lyme + even more than that to treat barto + even more for other things. I bought all of them and if they were for me I'd drink up lol

But artemisia for example is a great herb, treats babesia and worms. Great! But it has been reported to lead to seizures because it contains artemisinin. I don't know if the herb is safer than the artemisinin. Also St. John's wart has been banned in France and Canada.

So for now, I've decided to stay clear of them although I'm sure they work for most people. And I even like St. John--he is one of my favorite saints. The plant flowers around the time he is celebrated and the plant has been named after him, so how can that not be a good plant? Banned, really?