about to go the natural route

Honey,

If Doxy made you suicidal, I'm almost positive you were herxing, even if you are detoxing. Lymies, including myself, can become suicidal when they're on too high of a dose.

You need to slow down on the dose, whether it's abx or natural.

You can't start on a full dose, no matter what.

We all support you in whatever you decide to do, and if you need help, let us know.

Margaret

Thankyou both i have tears coming down i really lost myself i used to be so strong minded i feel so angry with god .....i feel mean and i am not mean i guess i just have to start the clarithomcin slow and hope for the best...........i am tired

Keep it as simple as you possibly can... the easiest route for you...

Try to let go of "who you were" and focus on "how you need to be now"

It is a new normal... it is so important to be gentle with yourself.

You can get a handle on this... its just gonna take a bit of time.

If you jump in the deep end... you risk drowning... but if you just put the tip of your toe in the water... you can gradually adjust to the water.

Yes i will.thankyou both for the support...

Take only 1/4 of the dose to start. Stay on that until you feel stable, and detox your rear off!! The more detoxing pathways you can help support, the better off you will be.

Don't increase the dose until you are stable (yes, I know I'm repeating this - it's that important) - and even then, it may take several attempts at raising the dose. I've talked with people that have had to raise doses of abx tablets by shaving off bits at a time.

If you feel led to go a natural route, I would encourage it, but it surely doesn't mean that you won't herx hard, or have a lot of the same issues. Healing from Lyme is just that rough for some of us - but that in no way means that you can't do it!!

Turn your anger towards the Lyme. You will beat it, no matter what, because you won't give up. Each time you help your body detox - there!! Take that, you dirty rotten Lyme!! Each time you take abx (herbal or pharma) - Take that Lyme!! You will NOT survive in me!!

You can find all kinds of videos on You Tube or other video places for yoga and stretches - don't drive, just do them in your front room!!

Do what you can and lean on us. We can really understand your struggles and your anger. We've been through it, or are going through it now. You are NOT alone in this. You have a lot of friends here that want to help in some way.

((((((((((HUGS))))))))))

Oh and i forgot to mention... the epsom bath may be to much for you ... it would be better to start with foot bath... and get adjusted that way... its more gentle.

Great point Trav!

about turning the anger toward the Lyme... I was just talking to my therapist today about that.

Prime example:

The day after trying the infra red sauna... i got out of bed and the pain in my knee was EXTREME... (like an ice pic piercing inside my knee)

As i was walking the 10 feet to the bathrm... i was grimacing and making aaargh noises ... then i realized that it was a herx.

I literally said out loud "bring it on blitch" <you know the word i used :)

I shared in another thread about it.

Anyway... my therapist said that it was a very healthy expression of justified anger :)

Good stuff!

Oh goodie... see how our pain serves more purpose than we realize.

I had no idea that you would be amused by that...

But so glad that you were able to chuckle... really cool!!!

Humor is also therapuetic... speaking of which... I'm gonna take a nap now.

Healing sounds... here i come!

Yeah!!! You tell 'em, Catchscooter!!! It's time to pack up and leave!! You've got them on the run now!!!

Bellyful- your post made me laugh out loud. Hilarious.

Catchscooter- I hope you start feeling better soon. We have to put this lyme into submission...we are all waging this battle together!

LOL!!! I think we all needed a laugh. :))

I don't think that Clarithromycin has a reputation for being a difficult antibiotic. I have not taken it though.

catchscooter said...
My symptoms are depression on edge anxiety fatigue muscl aches just a strange feeling like i am not in my own body anymore moody, angry, insomnia on activan wich does help a little i hate to rely on it though already on wellbutrin...

You have described my symptoms exactly, only that was 8 years ago. I didn't know what was happening to me until our daughter was diagnosed with lyme/bartonella in 2011 and the LLMD clinically diagnosed me with the same infections. We started treating with herbs in 2013. My symptoms included:

Depression, suicidal ideation, derealisation, flu-like body pain, palpitations, emotional, raging, panic attacks, insomnia, hot/cold flashes, tingling extremeties, dizziness, tinnitus, exercise intolerance .....

I am now completely better! 100%. As I treated myself with the herbs that I am using for our daughter, I first herxed (on very low doses) and then improved right along with her.

Just last week I rode my bike to work, rowed for 1.5 hours on Mon, Wed, Fri, and did all the household things that always need doing with a 13 year old and 18 year old around (that means lots of cooking and laundry), including mowing the lawn.

I also saw the families of ducks paddling around in the canal and thought about how the mother felt swimming along with her babies behind, heard many different species of birds singing, noticed that each species of tree has it's own distinct rustle of leaves in the wind, saw the moon floating overhead as I was bringing in the laundry, listened to the water falling from the fountain in the back yard ...

Life is beautiful, but you have to stop thinking and just be. You have to be a human being, not a human doing or a human thinking.

I find I have no pain now. It amazes me that when I get out of bed I don't have to limp for the first 15 minutes because my feet hurt. I just have an overall feeling of wellbeing and sometimes even joy!

These ladies have given you great information. The only other thing I could suggest would be to practice being "present", or in the moment (which is what meditation does), but you need to practice this while going about the day. This will help you with the intuitive abilities that Bellyfull mentioned.

Heart Math is a great book with ideas to help you do this. They also have a number of youtube videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdneZ4fIIHE