Cowden protocol - bad reaction? :-(

Me again :)

There's a great thread happening on here and Denise's post explains a LOT about why people can feel worse when they first start to detox and just what detoxing can accomplish.

If you're unable/not inclined to read the entire thread, I suggest you just read Denise's words:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3477137

Thanks, that is a great thread, and yes, that was something that has been difficult for me to get my head around too! For example' when I said how ill the detox herbs had made me, people said I must up my detox, but I was thinking, but it was the detox that made me ill! But now I'm understanding more that there are almost two different kinds of detox, one to actually draw the toxins out of the cells (like my detox herbs that nearly killed me!) and then the things that help to flush the toxins out of your bloodstream when your bloodstream is overloaded, as mine was. So I need to up that second type of detox for a few days, before starting again SLOWLY on the detox herbs. Please tell me though that this is all a good sign, that toxins are being shifted, and that eventually I will have drawn them all out, flushed them out of my bloodstream, and will feel better and no longer poisoned! :-/ xx

FlossieUK said...
Thanks, that is a great thread, and yes, that was something that has been difficult for me to get my head around too! For example' when I said how ill the detox herbs had made me, people said I must up my detox, but I was thinking, but it was the detox that made me ill! But now I'm understanding more that there are almost two different kinds of detox, one to actually draw the toxins out of the cells (like my detox herbs that nearly killed me!) and then the things that help to flush the toxins out of your bloodstream when your bloodstream is overloaded, as mine was. So I need to up that second type of detox for a few days, before starting again SLOWLY on the detox herbs. Please tell me though that this is all a good sign, that toxins are being shifted, and that eventually I will have drawn them all out, flushed them out of my bloodstream, and will feel better and no longer poisoned! :-/ xx

It took me awhile to understand all that's involved with detox.

Ummm....I think it's better for you to up that second type of detox for the rest of your treatment. Herbs are VERY effective so it's a good idea to already have something in place to get those toxins o-u-t out.

Remember me mentioning that I regretted not starting activated charcoal sooner? lol

Yes, as crazy as it sounds, your suffering is not for naught. You obviously have a high toxin load and you've started flushing them out.

You will feel better.

FlossieUK said...
Thank you so much cd . . . your last four words - "You will feel better" - have made me cry . . . think these darned toxins are messing with my emotions too! *sniff :'( xxxx

Sorry to make you cry - I understand.

Ummm...the toxins DO mess with our emotions.

I remember having what I called "emotional herxes"....there have been many times I was a cry-baby....other times anxiety came out of nowhere (and I had no reason to feel anxious)....and another time, it was like a dark cloud came over me (mild depression when I'd just been feeling quite content about everything).

It almost seems like an "anything goes" deal when we're talking about the effects of toxins.

That's why it's good to have a variety of detox methods that you use daily. Keep ahead of those nasty things!!

I do hope you feel better soon!!! ((hugs))

Sorry cd - me again ;-) . . . Just looking for the natures way activated charcoal on amazon . . . I'm seeing two kinds, one with a yellow lid, one with a green lid, both seem to be the same thing :-/ . . . any particular one I should get? These are capsules - is that what you recommend? I had visions of it being a yucky powder or something so hope it is a capsule :-/ . . .

No, it's ok, I didn't actually SEE a yucky powder option, it's just that that was how I was imagining it! ;-)

So yellow lid, green lid? Any difference? :-/

Thank you traveler - you're a star xx

I will definitely go ahead and order some then, and hopefully it will help to get these toxins OUT! :-/

xx

Thank you so much traveler. And thanks again to cd for helping me so much too, and all who commented. I feel so wiped out today, kind of like you feel when you're getting over flu or something (but without any of the blocked nose or sore throat stuff). . . just feel wiped out, dizzy, bit weak & wobbly, fatigued, bit of a headache, etc etc, and also increased tingling in scalp especially and shins. I haven't taken any of the detox herbs since yesterday morning now, so I'm hoping I can clear my system out for a few days and start again, but much more slowly, and adding in things like the charcoal to mop up all the extra toxins as I draw them out. I will definitely let you know how it goes . . .

Thanks again xxxx

Try a smaller dose for a few days but you know your body. Maybe you're just not tolerant of the herbs. My body does not do well with antibiotics so even though I had doctors telling me to take them, I went the herbal route and that's what put me into remission.

Aw, thanks happyjo . I stopped abx a couple of weéks ago, prior to starting Cowden. So I am still slightly concerned that symptoms will come back as a result of that :-/ . . . but hoping to be able to give Cowden a proper go. Still feeling horrible though :-(

And thanks itsnotjustlyme - I hope it's not that I can't tolerate the herbs, but you just never know I suppose :-/. I've stopped taking anything for a couple of days, and will maybe restart on Monday but at a much lower dose, so fingers crossed :-/

You need to take it 2 hours away from anything you wish your body to use - food, liquids, supplements, tinctures or anything else. The only thing you want to be sure that you take LOT of is water with your charcoal - at least 8 ounces, more if you deal with any constipation.

Thanks keylime. I'm literally just following the full Cowden protocol, so it's all laid out for me . . . days one, two and three were just to take burbur, pinella and parsley, which I did, but the instructions advised 10 drops of each, twice a day, and I now think that this was much too high a dose to start off on. I was really sick on Day 4, the day I started with one drop of banderol and one serrapeptase capsule, so I've stopped taking everything to try and recover. Day 4 was exactly a week ago, and I am just, today, feeling slightly more human, though still not well. I may try restarting the protocol tomorrow, but with just ONE drop of each herb, twice a day :-/

When I stopped antibiotics a couple of months ago, I got a stiff neck and headache, and after 10 days of that, my doc put me back on abx as we felt it was the infection still being active. If I get a stiff neck and headache now, I'm not sure if it will be a herx from the Cowden herbs or just the infection coming back :-/ . . . this disease is just so difficult to read.

Hope you're making progress?

Sorry traveler - what is MCAD? I really don't want to have any more conditions, to be honest :'( . . .