Ok to take 5 Nutramedix herbs at the same time?

Not all herbs are compatible with each other.

Nutrimedix has this handy compatibility chart:

www.nutramedix.ec/ns/images/stories/ProductCompatibilityChart.pdf

And, yes, Houttuynia is good for bart.

I was following the full Cowden protocol for the first 6 months of this year and wanted to trial Buhner's babesia procotol which includes crypto and art.

Since I did not know what compatibility issues there might be with the Nutramedix herbs, I decided to switch to Buhner's Lyme protocol because Buhner indicates that all of his protocols can be followed concurrently (which means the herbs are compatible)

Without a doubt, do NOT start all of the herbs at once on the same day at the maximum recommended daily dose.

I titrated the Cowden herbs at what I thought was a slow speed (starting at 1 drop per dose and increasing by 1 drop per day). I had my worst-ever herx on 3 drops Samento and 3 drops Banderol - worse than what I'd had on abx.

You'll read stories of others herxing on just Cowden's detox herbs.

That said, as I titrate Buhner's herbs, I'm following the advice of the members on here: start with 1 drop of 1 herb and take that for 4-7 days before adding another herb.

I'm getting the entire protocol going at low doses and will slowly increase the doses of each herb until I'm at maximum doses for all of them.

I had a strong enough herx on 5 drops crypto that I stopped treatment for a day to let the herx calm down with increased detoxing.

And, it's now time for the famous forum question.....are you detoxing?

If not, and you've been infected awhile, I suggest that you do a LOT of detox for at least a week...if not longer, before starting any herbs.

If you are detoxing, I suggest that you increase it and continue to increase throughout treatment. You need to stay ahead of the killing. Otherwise, your body can become flooded with toxins, you'll have a significant increase in symptoms....and your healing will be stalled.

We have lots of great detox suggestions in the "New to Lyme?" thread at the top of the forum. And, the site I'm linking below has been the source of many detox ideas I've employed:

www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

Toronto_M said...
so samento and banderol need to be taken apart? I've been taking them together... does this render them less effective, or simply increase the chances of herxing?

I really don't know.

However, I decided to Google a bit because your question got me curious. After taking Banderol for 6 months as part of the full Cowden protocol, it was disturbing to read this:

buhnerhealinglyme.com/herbs/samento-and-banderol/

Me again

I've been finding information online about the incompatibility of herbs.

While much of this is way over my head, here are some examples of how incompatible some herbs can be:

www.henriettes-herb.com/eclectic/potter-comp/incompatible.html

www.itmonline.org/arts/herbdrug.htm

I couldn't find any specific information about why Samento and Banderol are considered incompatible but I would imagine researching their respective constituents and actions might provide a clue.

And, knowing that information could very well have provided the basis for Buhner's comments about Banderol...

I'll tell you....it's only quite recently that I realized I might have been messing myself up by mixing my Burbur and Pinella with Buhner's herbs as I used to do with Cowden's. I now take those two detox herbs separately.

Post Edited (cd3764) : 8/23/2015 12:00:58 PM (GMT-6)

Also, should it be ok to take several Nutramedix herbs at the same time as taking Babs treatment [crypto, art, mepron/malarone]?

ram2390 said...
Also, should it be ok to take several Nutramedix herbs at the same time as taking Babs treatment [crypto, art, mepron/malarone]?

I am truly not sure and would err on the side of caution.

I've read enough posts on here by people following herbal protocols to know that certain herbs cannot be taken together.

That is why I opted to switch to Buhner's Lyme protocol because I wanted to follow his babesia one as well.

Not sure this helps