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Posted 10/9/2015 4:56 AM (GMT 0)
Has anyone gotten full recovery from ingesting essential oils?
I know there are protocols by Young Living, doTeRRa, etc., via
essential oils ingestion.

I've heard from people on the forums having success or knowing someone who had success from essential oils.

If so, please share your protocol(s).
Posted 10/9/2015 4:49 PM (GMT 0)
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Posted 10/10/2015 9:18 PM (GMT 0)
I know of someone who used EOs after using other modalities and got better. I'm not sure how far his other treatments took him before he used EOs, but he is doing well now and is back to living his life.

I forgot to add that I don't know if he ingested them or not.
Posted 10/14/2015 5:09 AM (GMT 0)
I was given a protocol for doTerra EOs for Lyme.
Yes, they are ingested.
I will post it, but it is really long.
I will wait to see if anyone wants me to post it first, though.
Please let me know.

Sorry, mike & garden- emails are not being sent to me for all replies.
Sorry I got back to you so late. Thanks for replying.
Posted 10/14/2015 8:52 AM (GMT 0)
Usedtogarden, I use EOs so I would love it if you wanted to share doterra's protocol.
Posted 10/14/2015 5:32 PM (GMT 0)
This will be long as I need to include the entire email from the person who shared it with me.
Her brother was dx & treated w/ abx first, then he started EO protocol from doterra. Then, she tested + & used the same protocol.

Here it is:
DoTerra Lyme Protocol

Hi! Okay, I copy and pasted it below, it is long, so I hope this gets to you ok.

My brother was diagnosed with severe neuro Lyme last July. I immediately began to research all his treatment options and he started antibiotics with our LLMD. He was on three rounds of IV Rocephin, Cipro, and Doxy. Last October, I discovered doTerra EOs and a Lyme protocol using them.

He then added this protocol along with his antibiotics and the first thing he noticed was a reduction in his symptoms and herxing. He continued to improve the longer he was on the EO protocol and just this past week got and update in his numbers...they are all way up!! He is feeling 95% better. I have kept up with people who are doing a lot of the same treatments as my brother and they are not getting better as fast. I truly believe that adding in the EO protocol is what has helped my brother improve as fast as he has.

I was just recently diagnoses myself and will also be using this protocol. New research shows how well Melalueca (tea tree) and oregano oil are in busting up bio-films.
Oregano essential oil is 8x stronger than penicillin.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask!!

Treating Lyme with doTERRA Essential Oils

Daily & Monthly Protocol

This is the protocol that my brother follows on his journey of healing Lyme. Please note everyone’s health condition and sensitivity to doTERRA oils may vary so please use this as a general guideline, trust your intuition, start slow and be persistent. I found that daily frequent doses of the oils to be most helpful. The essential oils do not cure diseases, our bodies do. The essential oils support our bodies to heal naturally. Please also seek professional guidance from an LLMD Doctor.

I AM NOT a Doctor and am only sharing what is supporting Matt’s healing process in hopes it will do the same for you.

WHERE DID HE FIND THIS PROTOCOL FROM?

DAILY Suggestions

Life Time Vitality Pack - Start by taking half the recommended dose to keep from detoxing to quickly, then, if you wish, take the recommended dose on the bottle (most people I know continue to take just half the recommended dosage and feel great, but while treating Lyme, you may want to take full recommended dose)

DDR PRIME Caps – take as directed on bottle

Frankincense - 1-3 drops am/pm directly under tongue or in a gel capsule

On Guard - 3 drops AM/PM directly under tongue or in a gel capsule

Zendrocrine Complex Capsules - take as directed on bottle

*Drink a minimum of 65% of your body weight in water daily and you can add lemon oil or Wild Orange to your water to help your body to detox and give energy

AM Topically and/or Aromatically

It is very important to manage stress so please use any of the Emotional Matrix Oils for emotional balance and support.

The following oils are great to use to manage anxiety and stress.

Balance, Citrus Bliss, Elevation, or Serenity - choose the one you like the best and either diffuse, inhale or rub on skin topically
PM Topically and/or Aromatically

Lavender, Vetiver or Serenity - use before bed to assist with sleep

*For those suffering from Neuro Lyme, or those who have extreme anxiety, Melissa is an excellent oil to use. For best results, place a drop under your tongue or place a drop on your thumb and hold it to the roof of your mouth for 30 seconds


MONTHLY Antibiotic Protocol

To see complete webinar of Dr. Hill discussing Lyme & Essential Oils

https://vimeo.com/24533235

It is suggested to rotate your protocol - I recommend rotating monthly between GX Assist & Dr. Hill’s antibiotic protocol. 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off.
PB Assist which should be taken indefinitely when not taking the below antibiotic protocol

Dr. Hill’s PROTOCOL - #1 – one to two 00 (size of capsules) gel capsules per day for 2 weeks then rest for 2 weeks and repeat as needed

3 drops each of: Clove, Oregano, Thyme, Melaleuca, and alternating Cinnamon and Cassia every two weeks (to confuse the Lyme)

GX Assist Protocol - #2 – taken for 14 days - 1-3 per day (stop after 10 days) add PB Assist which should be taken indefinitely when not taking the GX Assist or antibiotic protocol

*So, take protocol #1 for two weeks, then take two weeks off while still maintaining the daily regimen, then start protocol #2 for two weeks, then take two weeks off while still maintaining the daily regimen, then begin again with protocol #1.


For more information about using doTERRA oils for treating Lyme, suggestions can be found here:

http://www.everythingessential.me/HealthConcerns/LymeDisease.html#page=page-2
Posted 10/14/2015 7:11 PM (GMT 0)
Before I was diagnosed I was essentially housebound with my symptoms. I changed my diet and started essential oils (Young Living) around the same time and within a few months, I was about 80% of where I was before I got sick.

I wasn't using essential oils to treat Lyme since I didn't know I had it, but the oils / supplements I was using ended up being very good for fighting Lyme and assisting with detox.

I don't have an official protocol I follow, but it seems I use a lot of YL's equivalents to what you're doing. I use immune boosting oils for the Lyme / co-infections and many others for symptom management.

I was excited when I learned that one of the oils YL sells is great for blood infections like malaria. So I've recently added it for my Babesia.
Posted 10/14/2015 8:10 PM (GMT 0)
This might be a stupid question, but how do essential oils attack the bacteria? I totally understand using oils for symptom relief but I don't understand the anti-bacterial component. Just the oregano oil?
Posted 10/15/2015 2:31 AM (GMT 0)
Sarah -

The way they work is that all oils are made of various chemical constituents. And each chemical constituent has certain properties. For example, oregano oil is 60 - 75% carvacrol. There are lots of studies showing the antibacterial effects of carvacrol on things like e. coli, MRSA, staph, etc. I'm not aware of any specific tests of carvacrol against borrelia, but the extrapolation is there.

There are many other EOs besides oregano whose constituents are antibacterial: cinnamon, clove, tea tree, even lavender.

Does that help?
Posted 10/15/2015 4:50 AM (GMT 0)
Jasp- good work trying to explain such an incredible amount of information in such a short reply.
I was hoping the link I added in my post would help.
It really involves a lot of detailed information.
The information is available for those very interested.

I learned most of my EO info from hundreds of hours of internet research & Essential Oil Textbooks & manuals.

I use them topically and via inhalation for many health issues w/ much success.
I have yet to use them internally, but am getting closer to reaching this point in my tx.

Post Edited (Usedtogarden) : 10/15/2015 9:51:36 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/15/2015 3:41 PM (GMT 0)
Usedtogarden, thank you for sharing that protocol and the other information. It's interesting.
Posted 10/15/2015 4:06 PM (GMT 0)
I am sitting here w/ helichrysum italicum oil on my face right now to aid in the horrible head herxing I get from treatment. It stops the i flammation on contact. I've recently added Tea tree oil on top of it for all of its anti-viral, anti- bacterial props as well.
I recently added 1 more Artemisinin (due to female Chinese Noble Peace Prize winner's research) drop to my protocol this week & I am
herxing really strongly from that.

I am looking for new ways to treat. There's got to be other ways....

IV and oral abx + Buhner's herbals + supplements + anti-inflammatory diet, detoxing, etc, etc, hasn't cured me over the last few years.

When I was deep into all of that tx, a couple of people shared the EO tx. I needed to see if my route would work & stuck it out.

Well, it didn't, so EOs will be my next route.

I was hoping there may be some current forum members involved in this tx, b/c I understand that Young Living oils has a protocol, too.

I was looking for someone to share that protocol.

If someone has the YL protocol as well, please share it.
Posted 10/15/2015 4:11 PM (GMT 0)
Can I ask which Buhner's herbs you were using? Single herbs or entire protocols?
Posted 10/15/2015 4:14 PM (GMT 0)
I was on entire protocols.
It just didn't cure me & I would fall back and have to start all over again.
I still use his supportive herbals - they are wonderful & artemisinin for now.
I have a few acquaintances at 4&5 years of rx txs & some herbals;
They are not better.

I don't want to do that.

Quick Note: I want to add that Peppermint oil is much cheaper than helichrysum & also works great for the pain & inflammation.
I use it as well. Sometimes it works better depending on the reason I am using it. Really cools the inflammation; like an ice pack.

It cools within minutes! Just don't get it too close to your eyes- especially underneath your eyes or they water.

Post Edited (Usedtogarden) : 10/15/2015 10:31:12 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/15/2015 4:38 PM (GMT 0)
I used only essential oils for about 2 years initially. They definitely work and got me to about 75% well (from a pretty bad state, long term chronic 20 years or so). I was primarily using Thyme and Lavender topically but I experimented with various others. I worked up to about 10 drops of each, diluted in a carrier oil. I had tried Oregano orally initially but found the topical application more effective.

My sense is that the oils are a great broad spectrum therapy. They kill Borrelia, Bartonella, Babesia, and also mold and fungus without negatively affecting your good GI tract bacteria. The fact that they kill mold too is a major plus as it prevents Candida overgrowth that can be caused by using antibiotic therapies. They also have anti-biofilm properties so you have to make sure you detox like crazy as they will clear out a lot of neurotoxins that have built up in biofilms over time.

I'm not saying that you can't get to 100% with oils alone. However I feel that if you are a long term chronic patient there will be a significant degree of bone infection that you will eventually get to. I think anti-microbial compounds (oils, abx) in general are not super effective at penetrating to these locations. I'm making progress in these spots with frequency type treatments (Rife, tesla violet ray). However I'm still using essential oils by diluting them and rinsing my mouth with them daily, mostly Cinnamon leaf and Clove.
Posted 10/15/2015 5:25 PM (GMT 0)
What protocol did you use or how did you find your way around treating the parasites with oils?

I know some people who used droppers to put the oils in capsules, then swallowed them. You never felt the need to ingest them?

Tell me about your experience w/ CBD Oil; and far-infrared sauna, I think.
I saw your profile & a few of your previous posts.
Posted 10/15/2015 5:57 PM (GMT 0)
At the time I started using the oils I didn't know I had Lyme. I just suspected I had some kind of chronic infection. The oils made me herx like crazy and also triggered a lot of detox so I persisted. I'd get a small symptom reduction each week so I knew I was on the right track. Eventually I got a positive Lyme Igenex test and learned more about the co-infections. Based on my knowledge now, I went through a period where I was killing a ton of Babesia as I had crazy night sweats and some air hunger. The oils also caused flares of what I now know are Bartonella symptoms, but the oils never fully cleared it from areas like my heel bone.

Like you I've lately been doing Artemisinin pulses every so often and I do find it is effective at killing the remaining Babesia based on symptoms.

I was working at the time I started using the oils so I only experimented enough to find a combination of oils that would give me a manageable herx and steady progress without totally flattening me. Topical application worked quite well and to be honest I'm still a bit scared of ingestion and the potential liver toxicity.

I still use CBD oil and THC+CBD oil every week or so. I find it is very effective at helping to clear out the debris of dead and dying cells left over from my frequency treatments. It's known to signal cell apoptosis if the cell is damaged or infected which is exactly what is needed for stealth infections which create a lot of Zombie cells. I find THC+CBD oil much more effective but CBD alone can still work for times I don't want to be super high.

For me sauna (regular and infrared) has been a lifesaver. I don't know how I would have managed without it. My sauna use is totally correlated with my level of detoxing, during the worst periods in the first couple of years I used the sauna in the morning before work, came home at lunch and used it again, and finally again at night. There was just so much toxicity in me, it is almost unbelievable how much I detoxed over years. I think a lot of it is bound up in biofilm and also in fatty areas like nerve sheaths. Nowadays I only need to sauna 2x per week generally.

All I can say is that I agree with your assessment that getting better from chronic Lyme is incredibly difficult. I read that this Norwegian explorer who contracted it compared it to some of his most difficult expeditions.
Posted 10/15/2015 6:10 PM (GMT 0)
I've been following this thread since EO's are a completely new concept to me. Obviously, I don't really have anything to share along those lines :)

What I do have to share is commendation to all of you for all the research you've done and your proactive stance.

It's clear you're in-tune with your bodies and have made progress because of all these factors.

I extend my very best wishes for your continued healing and achieving 100%!!!
Posted 10/15/2015 7:13 PM (GMT 0)
Usedtogarden - I don't have a specific protocol for YL, I really created my own protocol based on my own personal needs.

I have heard great things about the Raindrop Technique (I think doTerra's equivalent is AromaTouch), have you tried it? I haven't because I'm nervous about the possible herxing.

YL, I believe, has a lot more supplements than doTerra. That takes a lot of the guesswork out of it. They have one called ParaFree, which has EOs in it that are effective against parasites.

I take Inner Defense (Thieves plus oregano, thyme and lemongrass), plus JuvaTone, which is a liver health supplement and is good for aiding in detox, but also helps me avoid gallbladder issues, which I was having severely last year (plus I use / take oils that are specifically for liver and gallbladder health).

I also drink NingXia Red, which is an antioxidant juice drink (it has the highest ORAC (Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity) of any antioxidant juice drink on the market). I use it for overall health, but also for eye health (it's full of lutein), because right around the time I got sick, my vision was affected.

I make what I call an Immune Roller that I use for Lyme, but also for maintaining a healthy immune system and fighting off all the germs my kids bring home. It has Thieves, oregano, lemon, tea tree and frankincense in it. I use it twice per day topically.

I'll also take Thieves internally when I feel cruddy.

I use Melaleuca Quinquenervia for Babesia.

And then just a ton of other oils for various symptoms and issues related to Lyme; insomnia, heart palpitations, fatigue, pain...you know the drill. :-)
Posted 10/15/2015 8:50 PM (GMT 0)
No. I haven't done Raindrop.
I would try it if I knew someone else as infected as myself did it & had a good result.
I am worried will send me into a massaive herx, as I am loaded with bacterials, viruses, protozoans.

I am happy that you have responded to this post. I am very interested in the information that you are sharing.
I use oils from a few different companies and have been very satisfied with them.
I have not tried doterra or YL b/c of price.

Do you know YL's Lyme protocol?
I have their EO manual, but find some vagueness in the treatment area as well as a few other areas.
This is when I have to turn to many other sources to fill in the gaps, or vice versa. Nothing listed specifically for Lyme or the co-infections.

When a cold or any Ear, Nose, Throat infection is coming on for myself or loved ones, I run right to mixing oregano, lemon, tea tree & peppermint in very hot water & inhaling the vapors 2-3 xs daily & it ALWAYS kills whatever is germ is trying to set up shop.
Really amazing & simple. I NEVER have a cold or infection in this are now :)

Night sweats were awful & air hunger. Me, too. I feel ya.
I am so glad to know now why that was happening b/c I thought it was hormonal.

I totally understand your heel pain, also.

I get these horrible leg pains:
sometimes burning, sometimes muscle soreness, sometimes feeling movement under my skin - yuk!
When I use certain EOs for specific sx, I can get it to stop! Stop on contact.
Nothing else did this for me.
It is so impressive how many ways they can be used, mixed, taken into the body.

Thanks for sharing the different types you use & how you take them; giving me more to look up. Each one treats so many ailments itself, then....
in different combinations with other oils treat so many more ailments.
Just mind-blowing how much info there is to be learned in EOs.

Project & Jasp-
I would be very interested to learn more about your use of them.
And for mentioning Melaleuca, as I have been writing 'tea tree' oil b/c I forgot how to spell Melaleuca ;)
Really informative - Thank you!

How do you pulse Artemisinin?
How does THC work for you?

What kind of rife machine did you buy?
I'd love a good resource on Rife therapy tx that also includes cautions/risks.

Where are using a sauna?
Do you have one at home, is it portable?
I would be interested in a far infrared sauna for the home, are portable one effective & affordable?

cd- I am glad that you are part of this conversation :)
I think that's how I initially became interested in EOs.

We are all students in this life.

Post Edited (Usedtogarden) : 10/15/2015 11:20:25 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/19/2015 3:38 PM (GMT 0)
Usedtogarden - I don't know of a YL Lyme protocol. I've only read about the Lyme Bullet and the Raindrop, which is why I've experimented and come up with a protocol that seems to be working for me.

The Melaleuca I'm referring to for Babesia isn't Tea Tree. That's Melaleuca Alternifolia (which I also use, but for a different purpose). The Melaleuca I use for Babesia is Melaleuca Quinquenervia. They're related, but not the same.

I love using EOs and really think they have been a big part of my reduction of symptoms.
Posted 10/19/2015 4:06 PM (GMT 0)
Jasp- My vision was severely affected, too.
It took a very long time for that to right itself.
I still have movement in my eyelids- I feel them moving around.

Like the juice you drink:
Lately, I have been eating more goji berries. I soak them in hot, filtered water;
Drink the juice (goji tea:) then eat the berries. I've heard goji is wonderful for the kidneys/urinary system as well.
Thank you for mentioning the juice.
Do you think sea buckthorn juice is as effective?

I have been considering the Raindrop therapy since this post.
I am going to try it, but at reduced concentration.
I am going to add a carrier oil & try the technique.
Have you ever thought of trying it this way, too?
This way any possible strong herx reaction will be reduced.

Thanks for mentioning how you use thieves & Mel Quin.

Using the EOs topically has REALLY helped to quell the hard herxes I had in the past week.
Posted 10/20/2015 10:27 PM (GMT 0)
I haven't heard of sea buckthorn juice - will have to read about it.

I would love to hear about how your raindrop experience goes! I've been considering it since I found out I have Lyme, but have always been too nervous. I have read some great things though, which is why I always come back to it.

I wish you luck with it!
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